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Has anyone heard of the actual purchase pricing people are paying?
I was at a dealer on Friday evening and the salesperson offered me an SE with seat package and floor mats for ~$31,000, sticker of $33,680.
What does everyone think, is that a good deal?
I suspect these aren't moving like the new Sienna. The dealer had 7 on the lot and there wasn't exactly a stampede of people trying to buy them.
I also saw a dealer on ebay selling an S with DVD for $24,250. That's over $2,000 less than MSRP.
Thanks.
Steve, Host
As you can tell from my post, I'm definitely interested in a Prices Paid Discussion.
I follow the Sienna and Odyessy Prices Paid Discussion, however I'm interested in the 2004 Quest.
Have they crash tested the Quest yet?
If it doesn't do well, I may go for the Sienna.
It'll get linked to Vans sometime soon - lots of housekeeping going on with a new Prices Paid sub-board over in Smart Shopper. Meanwhile, here's the link:
walterchan "Nissan Quest: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" Jul 28, 2003 1:00pm
Steve, Host
By adjustable they apparently mean they can be moved up or down. They are not adjustable in increments, my VW Golf has an adjustable armrest with multiple positions, the Quest's are not that type.
Exterior-wise the Nissan wins again, especially with style and grace and functionality.
Interior-wise I like the Quests new dash layout and greater interior space then that of the Sienna, I am six feet one in height...The Toyota looks really small inside...note my friend drives a 1997 Grand Caravan/Voyager. I was shocked after being in the new Quest, how seemingly the 1997 Grand Caravan/Voyager felt so cramped inside while going home...that was an amazing experience in itself.
The rearmost headrest in the Toyota are for kids-only size while in the Quest has all headrests that are appropriate size for adult-size use.
Both vans exhibit excellent fit and finish IMHO.
Now the biggest kicker of-all...PRICE...and real take home PRICE potential.
I went to the Richmond Automall, British Columbia, Canada. Currently this is the price gap between the following...in Canadian funds
Fully loaded Nissan Quest 3.5SE with all options and extra cost white pearl paint and dual DVD & NAV $50,380.00 with PDI and freight
Toyota XLE FWD with extra cost white pearl paint is $45,007.00 with PDI and freight
The Toyota dealerships here in Canada have fixed Access Pricing so you can not negotiate nothing at all. But I am sure that a couple of grand off the New Quest is available with a cash purchase.
Last but not least look at all the features for the full-load Quest versus just a Toyota XLE FWD...Again the Nissan wins...especially when you include the real take-home pricing potential.
Anyone is welcome to check out the Canadian websites for verification of my information.
www.nissan.ca www.toyota.ca
Thus, to conclude the Nissan Quest really beats the Sienna for every penny invested, when you reach the REAL-BOTTOM-LINE.
thanks Michael.
The Nissan Quest minivan, for example, is often selling for $500 over its sticker price..."
sunspot.net
Steve, Host
As a result, I would not purchase a Toyota or Lexus model unless there was some room for negotiation.
One solution is to boycott these manufacturers to teach them a lesson. Once the inventory levels have reached critical levels...prices will drop dramatically or the manufacture will go out of business. This is just an opinion of mine and will force the hand of all manufacturers in the automobile industry to compete better not only in the technical side of vehicle design, but also on proper pricing structures.
It is amazing to see how many people just shop and purchase blindly for lot of items, not just vehicles in particular.
Personally...I shop around to see what is truly the best value for every penny invested ROI (return on investment) Isn't the industry to be consumer driven and not the other-way around.
Just my two err...one cent worth of input!!!
thanks Michael.
I agree with many of your points about the Quest over the Sienna in terms of driving dynamics and the general feeling of roominess. The looks department, well in both cases its very subjective, I tend to give the hat to the Quest but my wife likes the Sienna as she says the Quest has a ugly face.
In any case, could you more clearly delineate the win at the bottom line? Thanks.
They're at www.nissan-techinfo.com. Navigate to Publications, Owner Manuals.
Here's a direct link (not sure if it will work):
http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissan/deptog.asp?dept%5Fid=34
I won't detail our transaction because we traded in a leased Altima, but the salesman did say there is about $2000-2500 in wiggle room on the Quest. There was a "Market Adjustment" of $960, but he told me to ignore it because "who pays sticker".
I picked it up this morning and drove it for about 15 miles. I can report more later, and if anyone has questions, post 'em and I'll try to answer. BTW, it's with my wife at work right now, so all answers will have to come later.
Craig
~alpha
With similar options, the Sienna seems to
come in at a higher price, MSRP and dealer
invoice.
Are prices different in Cananda?
~alpha
Nissan Quest
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3.5 SE 4dr Minivan (3.5 6cyl 5A)
National Base Price $32,240
Optional Equipment total (below) $4,850
U01 Navigation System info $2,000
H01 DVD Entertainment System (Dual Screen) info $1,900
S01 Seat Package info $750
L92 Floor Mats info $150
W95 Cargo Cover info $50
Destination Charge $540
Total $37,604
Toyota Sienna
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XLE Limited 7 Passenger Fwd 4dr Minivan (3.3L 6cyl 5A)
National Base Price $34,480
Optional Equipment (see below) $4,096
HO Limited Package #6 info $3,630
PC Special Color info $220
CF Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector info $196
GV Limited Package #2 info $50
GU Limited Package #1 info $0
Destination Charge $510
Total $39,086
What am I configuring wrong? The base price
on Edmonds is higher too.
2004 Nissan Quest 3.5 SL:
base MSRP for zipcode 45458: $26,740
Options:
Trailer Tow Prewiring
Fold Away Seat package
3.5 SL Upgrade Package
(The printout didn't list the prices- I'll get them back here in a few minutes)
Total Price:
$28,920
The options on the 3.5 SL were:
Base Price: $26,740
options:
trailer tow Pre-Wiring $540
Fold Away Seat Pkg. $350
3.5 SL upgrade Pkg. $750 (Parking Sonars and a couple more items- I forget.)
Destination: $540
Grand MSRP: $28,920
The Sienna LE 7 Passenger FWD:
Base Price: $24,260
Options:
LE Package 6: Trip Computer/Homelink, Power Right Side sliding door, Rear Seat Audio, JBL Sythesis AM/FM/Cassette/CD with 10 speakers,Special Utlity Pkg., P215/65R16 tires with 16 inch Alloy Wheels, Driver and Front Passenger Side Aribags, Three Row Curtain Airbags
Pkg. Price: $2,645
Destination: $510
Grand MSRP: $27,415
yes, the Sienna costs less, but the Sienna was a few items short. The parking sonars for instance. Trailer Tow Prewiring too. Both are small items, but I would buy both if possible on the Sienna. So, Price Advantage: Sienna LE Value Advantage: Quest 3.5 SL
Nissan Quest vs. Toyota Sienna CE FWD, 7 Passenger
Nissan Quest 3.5 S:
base Price: $24,240
Options:
3.5 S Upgrade Pkg. $700
Fold Away Seat Pkg. $350
Trailer Tow Prewiring: $540
Destination Charge: $540
Grand MSRP:
$26,370
(Sorry for the long post; just wanted to show the price comparison between two vans almost everyone is going to cross-shop.)
Toyota Sienna CE:
Base Price: $22,955
Options:
CE Pkg. 3: Urethane Steering Wheel, Laminate Green Shade Windshield, Green rear side glass, green rear quarter glass, Green rear glass, Power Mirrors, Cruise Control, CE Fabric Seats/Door Trim, Front passenger seat/3rd row seat back with hooks, roof rack, driver and side passenger airbags, 3 row curtain airbags, VSC with Trac/Brake Assist, Rear Disc Brakes, Windshield Wiper De-icer, Wire harness pkg.,(e/g Room Main) Wire harness pkg., (I/P Wire) Daytime Running Lights. pkg price: $2,145
Destination: $510
Grand MSRP: $25,610
Opinion to this comparison on next post.
Okay, last one. (i promise!) Nissan Quest 3.5 SE vs. Toyota Sienna XLE
Toyota Sienna XLE:
Base Price: $28,260
Options:
XLE pkg 16. (I'm not writing everything down, you can check thru the new cars section of edmunds.com., they list all the pkgs. pretty well. i don't want to take up too much room) Pkg. Price: $6,545
Destination Charge: $510
Grand MSRP: $35,315
Nissan Quest 3.5 SE:
Base MSRP: $32,240
Options:
DVD entertainment System: Single Screen: $1500
Fold Away Seat pkg. $750
navigation system $2000
Total MSRP: $37,030
OK, OK, the price advantage with the Quest's navigation system up against a Sienna without one is not right, but I'll compare both.
Price advantage w/ NAVI: Sienna XLE
Price advantage w/o NAVI: Quest 3.5 SE
Value advantage w/ NAVI: Sienna XLE
Value Advantage w/o NAVI: Quest 3.5 SE
To conclude, either van would be a great van to drive, and I would buy both. The Quest has the lower price, but the Sienna offers more flexibility between trim levels. For $28K, I can choose between a loaded Sienna LE or a stripped down XLE. The Quest has a small jump too, but has less options therefore less choices in between trim levels. Some people don't want to spend $28K on a stripped down car, so you buy a fully loaded $27,999 car. So, both vans are great, and you'll make no mistake by buying either- unless all the dealers in your area are charging over sticker for one model and charging a few bucks off sticker for another model. (Quest or Sienna) So Good Luck minivan shopping! Drive both, see which one feels better, and then hunt for the model you want.
It's very hard to decide which one is better. I would like a minivan with everything together!
Also, there is no cassette player on the Quest, Only CD. I have 100's of cassette recordings, and that is a big problem to me. I could not understand why so many vehicles offer either a cassette player OR CD. Toyota always gives you both, even if you go with 6-disc CD changer, the cassette player remains. Honda, Mazda, and now Nissan plays around with this stuff.
BTW, I think the last few messages belongs to the "2004 Nissan Quest vs 2004 Toyota Sienna" discussion board.
I'm just beginning to look for a replacement for my Windstar (it will take something special to make me buy another Ford, lots of problems and service aggravations).
I own a Maxima and the Quest looks good on paper...I mean web page, but I'll be seriously considering Honda/Toyota also.
I was up in Dayton Ohio last weekend. While the family was at Dayton Mall, I went to a nearby NIssan dealer.
They had ONE Quest, an SL in Tea Green (Green Tea?) NICE NICE NICE.
Made our Odyssey look downright boring. I am trying my best to get my mom to get a new Quest. It looks really big compared to our Odyssey as well.
Really like the design of it.
JD Power & Associates (Used Autoshopper Press Release)
Tell your Windstar/Caravan/Venture driving friends to log on!
Steve, Host
My '99 Quest seems to be running good; got new shoes and passed IM today, so it'll be a few more miles before we have to think about a new ride.
Steve, Host
Anyhow, does anyone know how I can find out where an antenna interconnect is w/o me having to disassemble my Quest to find it? Sometimes they are in the right kickpanel, sometimes in the right cargo area...anyone know or know of a way of finding out?
Thanks!
Craig
BTW, the spare in the odyssey and quest is in front of the second row, not between the 2nd and 3rd rows.
When I test drove a basic SL model without any options earlier this week, however, the window sticker indicted the car has heated mirrors. I also confirmed this with the salesman. I looked around in the vehicle but couldn't find a switch to turn it on.
My 92 Maxima has a push button next to the mirror adjustment joystick to activate the heated mirrors. Is this thing supposed to be a fully automatic operation in the new Quest???
The mirrors themselves have a little "heater element" logo on the bottom center of the glass.
Steve, Host
Craig
PS, as an owner of a 2004 Quest, I'd like to see the discussion of this board change a little. Comparisons between the Quest and Sienna belong in that discussion board--let's use this one for Quest specific questions and answers. Steve_Host, do you agree?
Steve, Host