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Honda Accord vs Acura TSX

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  • FYI....I have a 06 TSX auto, and I average 25 mpg mixed driving, Hwy. I make ~30 mpg. I can vouche for the specs. My only complaint is that for a 4 cyl. the gas mileage should be better, but when you are squeezing over 200 ponies the engine you are gonna give up some fuel efficiency.

    I am not trying to persuade anybody to buy a TSX over an Accord. All I am saying is that for me there were a lot of objective factors that steered me towards a TSX. In terms of the subjective stuff. "Fun" (not just a big engine) factor was a big deal for me, others less important were Exterior Looks, Interior, and Luxury feel. Both are great cars, but I think they appeal to totally different buyers.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The TSX is a slot-filler for the old Integra sedan, but when looking at its price, it is almost identical to an Accord EX-V6's. (both 27.5k-29.5k).

    I drive an Accord, and I honestly find the looks of the TSX be-u-tee-ful! It has an italitan butt that I really like. I couldn't pony up 27k for a car, and if I could, I'm not sure I'd pay the same for a car with a 4-cyl, and smaller interior. Both are great choices, though. THAT, we can agree on!
  • I would say it depends. Both are good cars.

    I tested drove both cars w/o navigation and didn't try out the bluetooth features.

    Keep in mind I test drove the 2006 Accord EX V6 and 2005 Acura TSX. I believe there are number of improvement for both cars since the 2003 Accord and 2004 TSX was tested at the start of this Discussion.

    TSX: When you sit inside the TSX, you feel like everything I need is here in the car. That feeling of 'oh I wish it had this or that', you just feel happy that just about everything is standard.

    TSX's interior is very nice. It is lux-sporty like the Audi A4 actually I may go ahead and say a bit better.

    Power, since it's a 4 banger, it'a busy engine. Power is adequate but it is as about as smooth as it gets for a 4 banger.

    The handling was very good, not great but very good. Better than the Accord. When I did a quick lane change and back (like the way I do with my friend's 325), it fishtailed. Perhaps it's the tires but regardless it fishtailed. Acura Integra handles better. BMW 325 is too tight for me. When it comes to handling, I would take the 2001 Prelude any day. It may not be a fair comparison as TSX does (sit up higher) have a higher road clearance.

    Since it is smaller than the Accord, very easy to change lanes, turn and park. Obviously Acura dealer will treat you better than the Accord.

    Accord: When you sit inside the Accord, no surprise, all the buttons are where they should be as it's been for the past 20+ years.

    Power is when Accord definitely has the edge. V6 is smooth and it gets up and go.

    Good handling. Now I didn't even attempt that quick lane change that caused the fishtail in the TSX. Accord is a bigger car, so I didn't even try it. Turns and cornering was plenty enough for me to say, Accord handling is good but TSX is better. Again, 2001 Prelude . . .

    Conclusion: You can't go wrong with both cars.

    TSX is unique where Accords are dime a dozen with a bit better handling.

    Accord holds its own with better power and roomier interior and lower price.

    Gas milage (TSX) vs. insurance cost (Accord) off set each other IMO.

    I personally, I like the 2006 Accord V6 EX better only because more room and bigger trunk to me is more important than the positives of the TSX.

    Price is a factor too for most people. If Acura lowers the TSX price to Accord V6 EX, I there may be more TSX owners than the Accord V6 EX.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Very good points in your message. I hope you don't mind if I add something to it...

    The TSX requires premium unleaded, making what tiny advantage it had in mileage all but dissappear, if not giving it to the Accord V-6. The TSX engine has similar torque figures as the 4-cylinder Accord, but the Accord's actually peaks several hundred RPM lower, giving it a slight advantage in the lower rev range (under 4k RPM). The TSX obviously out does it in power overall, though. The Accords is just slightly more flexible.
  • johnny420johnny420 Posts: 473
    Perhaps I should've been clearer. I've driven the 7th gen Accord 5-6 times, owned a 2000 Accord EX-V6, and currently own the TSX.

    My quibble was with this statement: Handling (TSX)- only slightly better than 6-speed V6

    Whether or not you own/drive a 7th gen Accord sedan or coupe, the TSX is not just "slightly better" in the handling department than either Accord. It is substantially better in stock form, for the reasons I listed above.

    How can you say the 6th gen Accord has "much less" handling then the 7th gen, then turn around and say that the TSX's handling is only "slightly" better than the current Accord?

    Accord (sedan with either tranny)= boring, TSX = fun-to-drive. I never made any mention of the Civic Si, nor I have I driven one. By all accounts it is excellent, and is much closer to the TSX in demeanor than the Accord.

    The six speed coupe is very nice, albeit a tad homely. I shopped one and would be happy in one. Can't hang with the TSX in the tight stuff though.

    johnny420, who also likes cruis'n in 6th, even though 3rd is the TSX's magic gear. :shades:
  • xkiddx13xkiddx13 Posts: 122
    go with the accord ex i have a 2002 ex v6 accord and love it though it is a 2d coupe.
  • When looking for a sporty sedan about 2 years ago was between two cars, the Audi A4 1.8T and the Acura TSX. Two years ago I got the A4 my first car, a few months ago I got the TSX for my second car. The Accord is not even a consideration in this category. I am not looking for a family car with a big engine. I don't care how many kids I can fit in the back, or how many groceries go in the trunk. I am looking for a car that is fun to drive, the A4 and TSX are each a blast to drive in their own way. Again, we are comparing cars that appeal to totally different buyers.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Some see it your way, others (like myself) see it like this.

    The Acura TSX and Accord EXV6 are priced right on top of each other. Both have Honda's exceptional reliability, and are "at least" fun to drive. The TSX is the playful one, and the Accord is the powerful one. On the one side, the TSX is more stylish, but the Accord counters its lack of cache with a more commodious interior (roomy, in layman speak). The TSX offers a few more features not available on Accord (HID headlights, for example), while the Honda has a broader dealer network. The TSX will be a rarer commodity on the road (a good thing), but will draw less attention for resale (pure speculation on my part). Hondas seem to draw used car buyers in like a moth to light, often selling for 20%+ over Kelley Blue Book value.

    The TSX appeals to a smaller number of people, but those people may cross shop the Accord with its relative price and similar brand heritage.
  • johnny420johnny420 Posts: 473
    A reasonable assessment. I don't think you, speedracer or myself are that far apart in our views.

    I do think, however, that the demand for the TSX in the used market will be vigorous. Maybe not at the level of the Accord, but enthusiasts seeking a practical alternative to the family hauler will some out of the woodwork if they come across this car in the Auto Trader or some similar publication. Especially those seeking a stylish sedan with a sporting nature and a manual gearbox. My two cents worth.

    I'm not sure I agree that the Accord regularly sells for 20% over KBB, though. The market for Accords is saturated, and it would seem to defy market economics that demand for such a readily available product would exceed supply. Again, just my two cents worth.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I agree that we tend to agree on the same basic ideas. I just make the comment about KBB b/c I got offered $2,500 trade-in for my 96 Accord LX with 156,500 miles on it (it lists for $1,595 in "good" condition for a trade in. We also got $17,000 for a slightly damaged (cosmetic only) 2 year old (it was a 2003) Accord EX 4-cyl Auto/Cloth w/37k miles. It showed up at about $14,000 on the books. Turns out, one of the salesmen wanted to buy it, though, so it is a special case there. :)

    I have personal experience with getting well over kbb, but I'm definitely not saying that Acuras will not garner the same premium, I'm just not experienced with trading those.

    Happy motoring...

    thegrad
  • I've never bought cars strictly based on resale value, so why start now. I actually like the fact that TSX's are not a dime a dozen like Accords. There is a certain exclusivity factor (albeit minor) when not every person on the road is driving the same car you are. Call me the black sheep, but my sheep has a spoiler :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Call me the black sheep, but my sheep has a spoiler

    Oh speedracer, you are so baaaaad.

    Haha, a lot of people feel this way about wanting to drive something outside the "norm". Nothing wrong with that, it is your dollar after all!
  • Hi all. I'm a brand new and v. happy owner of a 2006 arctic blue Acura TSX (AT w/navi). I test drove both the TSX and Accord EX (4 and V6). I liked the Accord very much, but I couldn't love it like I love my TSX. Here's what I think makes the TSX well worth the extra $$$ over the Honda (which in the case of the V6 is barely any extra $$ at all):

    1. Body style. OK, so the Accord did spiff itself up a little with that lip/spoiler thingie on the trunk, but overall the car just looks ordinary -- probably just because there are just so doggone many of them on the road! No question that the most common sedan on the roads in my part of the world (Pacific NW) is the Accord followed closely by the Camry. To me the TSX looks a little sportier, a little more luxe, and definitely a little unique in the sea of Accords & Camrys. (And this is coming from someone who has driven an Accord for the past 6 years!)

    2. Interior feel. The Accord's interior is better than its exterior, but the interior is not as eye-catching and inviting as the TSX's. I love the TSX's cool blue instrumentation lighting and the blue overhead penlight that shines down onto the center console in the dark. It makes me feel more stylish or hip or in my 20's or something.

    3. I bought an AT and no question the TSX's sportronic AT beats the Honda's AT (which doesn't have the sport shift feature at all). This is one of the biggest pluses for me, actually; I drive an AT for practicality but in my heart I long for a MT -- the sportronic at least gives me a little taste of a MT!

    4. Drive/Handling. IMO the TSX is a far better driving experience than the Accord. The TSX feels much more responsive/intuitive than the Accord. I think the Accord's seats and suspension are a tad softer but I like the firmer feeling of the TSX's seat/suspension.

    5. Bluetooth, Homelink, memory driver seating (linked to the key remote -- TOO cool!), and the extra power seating for driver and front seat passenger on the TSX (OK, I know Homelink comes on the V6 but not the V4 Accord -- and the Accord doesn't have Bluetooth and the other seating functionality at all).

    6. I adore my iPod and appreciate the no-cost port in the TSX (vs. the $400 iPod hookup in the Accord). I know the Honda's iPod port has more functionality but I don't think it's worth $400.

    7. Acura Roadside Assistance, great peace of mind!

    Other observations: I've seen a comments about the TSX having a smaller rear door and much smaller back seating area than the Accord, and while I don't dispute that, personally I don't notice it (I'm 5'2" and both the TSX and Accord's back seats are plenty spacious for me.) My husband is not super tall and he doesn't have a problem with the back seat, either. Since we have no kids or regular backseat passengers, this was a non-factor for us.

    Car insurance is $9 more per month for the TSX than the Accord, which to me is not a big deal. The extra cost for premium fuel for the TSX will probably cost me no more than an extra $10 per month over a regular unleaded fueled Accord (I only put about 1,000 miles on my vehicle each month). However, for people who are very cost-conscious, these factors could make the Accord a better deal.

    Dealerships in my area are willing to give much better discounts on the Accord than on the Acura. The price difference between a 4 cylinder Accord EX AT w/Navi and an Acura AT w/Navi is about $4,000. I believe with the Accord EX V6 the price difference is about $1,500 or so. I did think long and hard about this aspect of the two vehicles. I am planning to own my TSX 8 - 10 years, and when I thought of the price difference over that amount of time (less than $50 a month) it seemed truly an insignificant considering how I felt about both cars (like the Accord vs. love the TSX).

    Bottom line is both the Accord and TSX are great vehicles. For me the TSX was an irresistable combination of luxury, sportiness, great functionality and uniqueness. Happy trails! :shades:
  • Hi... I'm trying to decide on the Accord EXV6 or the 2006 Acura TSX... My concern is that the TSX is a 4 cylindar.... I have been driving the Accord EX V6 Coupe for three years... I love the car. Now I was looking into a four door and love the look and feel of the TSX... again my concern is "Will it have the pick up when I need it to"

    Any input is greatly appreciated...

    :confuse:
  • ^^The TSX has ample acceleration. Do a search. You'll find a plethora of info on this topic. :D
  • Hondata has a reflash for MT 2005 and 2006 TSXs that adds 32 horsepower and 28 ft-lbs of torque. Cost $595

    See :http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=501871

    With that upgrade you should have plenty of pick-up.

    Driving my little ole 2.2L 4 cylinder, 237 Hp with Invidia exhaust!,

    MidCow
  • I can upgade the 2006 TSX with this factory install????

    This is great... :)
  • Just realized ... you're talking manual.. I was looking at the auto transmission...

    My concern is getting on and off the highway.. will I be able to move ... it's an important factor.. :confuse:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Congrats on the new TSX, but I wanted to clarify just a couple of small details for the readers of this forum.

    You mention in point number 2 that the TSX has the pinlight that shines on the console and the backlit blue gauges that make it feel more hip. The Accord has both of these features (pinlight over console w/WHITE backlit gauges). Maybe the blue was what you were stressing, I dunno. Just thought I'd mention it.

    For the rest of it I generally agree, except for the interior room factor. While I'm young (18 actually), the Accord was the much better car for me for the price of gas ($2.11 right now vs $2.31 for premium in the TSX) and the much larger interior (I'm 6'4"ish).

    Happy driving. You'll probably never see me since I'm one of the 400,000 or so people that will have a 2006 Accord by year's end, but mine is Graphite Pearl in EX trim!

    thegrad
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    You really need to drive both to decide. I thought the TSX auto was pretty anemic compared to my 3.5 liter Olds Intrigue, which isn't nearly as fast as the Accord V6. The manual was better but in the end, I didn't want to be constantly shifting during my 8 mile commute with at least 12 lights or stop signs.

    I ended up with a Camry SE-V6 only because in 2005, the Accord didn't have stability control. The new Camry is much more stylish and probably worth checking out too.
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