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Eager to see how your negotiations work out! Please post your results... if you can get lower prices, that's pretty impressive. (I think even the prices you've got already are very impressive, particularly this early in the model year. :shades: )
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2009 Subaru Forester: Pricing
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I'm also curious about a couple of the comments about how edmunds has the TMV right. From what I see all the TMVs are MSRP for the 09. Am I missing something or are you referring to the invoices prices?
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2.5XT Limited w/VDC ==> $26,700.00
2.5XT Limited w/VDC & Nav ==> $28,600.00
Almost a $2,000 difference. And the one without the navigation does come with the front bumper guard. I really want the Nav, it just looks slick, and its going to look better than anything aftermarket I could put in there. Will have to give this some thought...
-Bill
I hate to be more specific until I buy my Forester then I will tell all if it helps.
I've lurked around here long enough that I wanted to give a little information back to the masses now that I've finally made a decision and started the purchase process.
Last Friday afternoon I ordered an '09 Forester L.L. Bean (Red, no Nav).
After about 8 months of agonizing research looking for a safe, fuel-efficient, winter-capable vehicle, I settled on the Forester. Not too big, not too small. Hopefully it will end up being "just right." I wasn't going to make any decisions until the crash tests were out, but I found the Australian crash test results, and they reassured me that Subaru didn't do anything to screw up the good safety reputation they've built with the Forester.
I configured the vehicle on Edmunds and requested quotes from the four nearest dealers. Despite my concern about the value and usefulness of accessories, I ended up ordering a whole slew of them.
I received automated responses from 3 dealerships, and a personalized, "real" email from the internet manager at the 4th. She looked at my list of preferences and said that she could track down the vehicle from another dealership and then install the options, but it would be much less expensive if I wanted to special order it and wait.
She offered to order the vehicle and accessories at sell at invoice, bypassing dealer installation charges on the accessories by having them installed "at the port". We set up a final test drive, and then sat down and we went through the order process. We went right down the screen selecting the options I wanted, and I cross-checked the invoice price against what Edmunds has. There weren't any surprises -- all the invoice prices checked out.
There was a snag that some may find humorous or interesting: I wanted the wheel arch moldings and splash guards, but the system would not let us check both. It gave an error message that they are incompatible with one another. I had to bring it to the sales folks' attention that the advertisement for the moldings clearly says, 'Looks great with the accessory Splash Guards!" and vice versa. They had a good laugh over that, but I was mildly annoyed.
Also, a rear backup sensor was on the list of possible accessories, but does not appear in any "build-your-own" configuration tool I've seen. Also disappointing is that the iPod interface kit evidently is not compatible with the "improved" audio system in the L.L. Bean trim level. My understanding is that the kit improves over the basic auxillary input by allowing iPod control from the stereo controls, and charging, turning off the iPod when the vehicle powers down, etc.
At any rate, the final ordered vehicle went something like this:
(2009 L.L. Bean Forester, Camellia Red, No Navigation)
++ Rear Bumper Cover
++ Subwoofer
++ Spoiler
++ Splash Guards
++ Wheel Arch Moldings (?)
++ Rear Backup Sensor
++ Moonroof Air Deflector
++ Puddle Lights
++ iPod Tray
++ Body Side Molding
++ Auto-Dim Mirror with Compass and HomeLink
++ PZEV (Massachusetts)
Cost was $27K even. This is consistent with the invoice prices listed on Edmunds and elsewhere. (I didn't want to reward her forthright offer to order the vehicle and save me money by greedily attempting to negotiate lower than invoice). Had to deposit the cost of the accessories, and now I just wait. Forecast was 4 to 8 weeks.
So that's the story so far. I'll keep you guys posted on the rest of the buying experience as it develops.
We may end up with the same model, but probably a different color.
Goofy name.
Horrendous dealer badge/insignia.
Excellent internet customer service and freebie warranty incentives.
edit: www.planetsubaru.com In case there's more than one out there.
Negotiatd price $23,135 (including dest) + 8.375% Brooklyn.NYC sales tax,
plus $ 59.00 FOR FULL TANK OF GAS.
plus $227.00 DMV/Plates.
Total PaiD $ 25,360.00
car should be in dealersship from 4 to 6 weeks.
I'm not sure if his is the best price, but i think it is pretty good.
i Negotiated & confirmed all PRICES over e-mail. Came in for a test drive AND PLASED the order.
So far everything went smoth trasaction.
MSRP of equivalent limited (LLbean) is approx 6-7 K more in Canada, but:
You have to pay 6.1% duty upon import.
You have to pay cash (if you have it, good, if you don't, you need to finance and take into account Subaru of Canada rates and promotions)
You have to buy, no lease
You have to pay docs, plus traveling to US.
You have to pay inspection
You can't trade in you car, nor can you apply graduate rebate.
Warranty is honored, but you need to pay upfront.
Resale value 'might' be lower in Canada.
Since the 2009 canadian prices were reduced by 1500-4000$, you need to make sure it is still worth it to buy US. In most cases, I think it still does but it is much less worth it than in 2008. Let's say they adjusted prices up to the point where you ask yourself if you should still go for it. Marketing strategy...
The roof rails and grille blend in well with that color.
Congrats again.
$59????? My Odyssey costs less than that to full up!
Very easy. Just called the dealer and they do all the work. Takes 72 hours. Will pick it up early next week.
If this ends up being as easy as it is so far, Subaru Canada needs to make some big changes as there really isn't a reason to spend the extra $4K, even with the warranty re-imbursement issue. I don't know the figure but I would guess that 80% of the Canadian population live within a few of hours of a US Subaru dealer.
I had called Subaru Canada today and told them that I was planning on buying in the US and that they should let me know now if they plan on offering any rebates or low financing rates as I would prefer to keep my business in Canada. However, given that I'm buying a PZEV car, I'm actually feeling better (guilt is reversed) about buying the US model at this point.
By the way, you should feel no guilt at all about not buying in Canada from gouging manufacturers! You can spend the saved 4000 at canadian companies that do respect you as a customer. I know I will...And yes, PZEV sure make you feel better about buying SUV.
My dealer still didn't get one!
Heritage Subaru has a silver LL Bean w/o Nav, if you're up to a drive to Balawmer (Owings Mill actually). Saw it this morning when I was having my outback serviced - looks pretty nice.
Larry
Cheap b***tards. (Dealers).
I think she's going with blue. The dealer is looking for one and will do a dealer trade.
Bob called me with a similar tip.
Thanks for keepin' an eye out.
Annapolis Subaru is showing a blue LL Bean with gray (not dark gray) interior in their inventory.
Larry
I'm not in a hurry because I want to wait until May 1 just in case any incentives appear. I doubt it, but I'd hate to miss them by a day.
Here is my deal from a dealer in Portland Oregon
Total Vehicle Price: $ 27,446.00
Factory Order Option:
2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X Limited (AT) PZEV in Sage Green with Platinum leather interior
MSRP Invoice
2009 Forester 2.5X Limited (incl. Destination) $ 26,195.00
- All weather floor mats
- Auto-dimming mirror/compass with Home Link
- Aero cross bars
- i-pod/phone console tray
- XM Satellite radio kit
- Rear bumper cover
- Puddle light kit
- Hood protector kit
- Wheel arch molding kit
- Security system upgrade (shock sensor)
- Body side molding kit
- Rear spoiler
-PZEV
Total Vehicle Price $ 28,748.00
Invoice $ 26,963.00
MY On-Line Price: $ 26,663.00
$300 under invoice with no fluff charges of any type, just tax and license. Of course it must be ordered and will be a limited not an LL Bean.
PS My deal has now been matched by a dealer in Marysville WA.
Though it's the closest one to my home, I've never been a fan of the Marysville dealer (Roy Robinson)... Subaru is relegated to a small portion of their showroom and the folks I've talked too there haven't seemed to be Subaru "experts". Always felt like they'd much rather sell me a Chevy. If they'll match the price and are more convenient for you, might not be bad. And maybe they've improved since I was last there a couple years ago.
Who's the Portland dealer, Carr? Ask kurtamaxxguy (2009 Forester thread) where he bought... think it was Salem, OR. He preferred them to Carr and got a good deal.
I use to live close by and my gal was ignored when she went in to look for a car.
Your guess is correct for Portland and I have saved the local chevy/subaru dealer for last as they will probably be my service dept. Another friend has had continued good service on his Forester there.
So, do you think $300 under invoice is not good enough on a new model?
I haven't seen anyone come close yet. Had a friend buy one through the Costco program last week for $300 over invoice.
I guess I never said it in my reply, but I think $300 under invoice is great for a new model w/no rebates! :shades:
2.5X with premium package
Aero Bars
Rear bumper cover
Cargo tray
All weather floor mats
Cargo net
Wheel locks invoice $ 23,155
PZEV paid $ 23,300
not sure if dealer pays for PZEV($200) if so invoice would be $23,255. Shopped by internet.. Came down to 2 dealers.. Bill Kolb JR-Rockland County NY and Libery Suburu- NJ just over GW bridge. Both we're $100 of each other. Bought at Bill Kolb.. Very happy with them . No extras or hidden charges and very professional.. Could have saved $600 at Fitzmall howvever felt I wanted to have a local dealer if I ran into any problems.
Is Yokohama replacing free of charge? Let us know how the new tires affect the ride/sound levels.
Len
What about the lemon law? :lemon:
I was told by a dealer that it only applies if I buy in WA and would not apply if I buy in OR.
Well the bike rack obviously is but not the hitch. However, the hitch is just a receiver which doesn't protrude from under the bumper so it's not all that noticeable.
-Frank
Seems to be true:
http://www.atg.wa.gov/LemonLaw/General.aspx