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-juice
I emailed many dealer in the s.f. bay area and asked them to compete for my business. The best I've got is $100 over invoice for a 2005 GT wagon, auto. Going to the dealer to sign paper tomorrow for a factory order car. Hope they will not play trick but stick to the quoted price.
I find that for a factory order there's much more bargaining power.
-juice
I probably could have gotten a slightly better deal from other Bay Area dealers, but I value the service and experience from Santa Cruz. They're a smaller dealership so they try harder and remember you every time you come back.
I also managed a decent trade in for my trusty 98 Forester S. The dealership gave me above the KBB value.
Ken
Congrats and I have to admit I am a wee bit jealous!
-juice
Liar, liar pants on fire!
If it wasn't for the boss (wife) nailing you to the fence, you'd be jumping off NOW.
DaveM
Question: Is there any place online to buy discounted "Added security" warranty? If so, what's the cheapest place?
Went to the local dealership which is about 3 miles from my home. Walked in after I finished at work. was about mid day on a week day and I was still wearing work clothes. That day I had been working in the field and setting up a network. Had to crawl in and out of walls and get all my plates set up including the racks. Company logo on a collard shirt, khaki shorts and tennis shoes. (Plus $2000 in cash in my pockets)
Walked around show room and grabbed some literature on the Imprezas. I was looking for a car to replace my 95 integra hatchback. My car is not so good in the snow and I have to lug about computers and various network related parts day to day. The WRX wagon seemed like a good candidate. That would also keep me from getting stuck in mud at new construction sites.
If I had been on fire... no one in the show room would have gotten up to spit on me. There were no customers anywhere and the staff was just standing around talking about TV and crap. I asked someone for assistance and was told, "Someone will be with you soon." Ignored for about 20 mins before I got annoyed and headed for the door. Left in a huff and swore off giving money to "Those People".
Couple of days later I am meeting the old man for dinner. We get to the subject of cars and I tell him that I am really looking to get a new car. I explain to him how my Acura is nice and all but I get stuck at job sites a lot. Also that I seem to get a $1000 repair bill about once a year on a car that has less than 80,000 miles on it.
"You should look around then go to F***d (name *** to protect the A-Holes.) they are good guys there."
"Actually dad I went there..." I explained how I had been ignored and so forth.
Stops me mid sentence and says... "Well I think we need to head over there now."
My girlfriend is driving and we pull into the lot. I had to sit in the back. She gets out of the car and I squirm out of the back of her RSX. All the while looking at the sales staff as they look out the window at us. No one even blinks. Dad get out of the car and starts towards the door. Door flies open and sales person is headed out the door calling my father's name with hand extended.
Dad smiles and shakes his hand.
"W***s, how are you. I wanted to ask you a question... does this guy look familiar to you? Or more to the point to me?" Pointing at me.
"Umm..."
"This is my son and he in interested in one of those Suba-whatevers."
"I am with a customer right now, but..."
"Cough"
"What would you like to take a spin in?"
Wow that was one hell of a change. Explained that we were having an early dinner and that I would come back after dinner. Was told that the keys would be waiting when I got back.
Seems over the years my father has purchased 5 cars there. He has also brought a few customer there for them.
Well its great that the old man could exert that kind of pull. In fact when I returned I was handed the keys and asked to "keep it under 4,500 RPM for break in reasons. But have fun with it!" Didn't ask for my license or anything. Drove the WRX wagon and was not that interested. Brought it back and asked if I could drive a WRX sedan instead. Well the guy was busy again but made sure that I got the key. Drove it and really liked it better. But the car just feels like a civic. Plus everything inside has a slightly cheap feel to it.
Figured I would take a day or 2 to think about things and research. Found out about the new legacy from one of the trade mags. WRX STI like engine in a nice looking sedan. Now that sounds like it would be worth a look. Came back and located the sales man and waited till he would talk to me. Told him I really appreciated him letting me take the cars out. Also that since hearing of the new Legacy that I wanted to give it a drive before I make my decision. Seemed to understand my point. Asked him to give me a call when the Turbo Legacy's arrived.
More on that in a minute. Whole point of this post was this. They ignored me until my father did something about it.
Kids often need a father like mine to get taken seriously. Here is the thing.
I AM NOT A KID! I HAVE $40K IN SAVINGS THAT I COULD THROW AT A NEW CAR. PLUS I AM 29 YEARS OLD! THIS DEALERSHIP IGNORES ME!
-juice
-mike
Price sounds fair if they stick to it.
-juice
-juice
-B
I thought I saw on the Subaru it could be a manual, but when I go to actual dealer websites I never see them in inventory.
93% of cars sold here are automatics. Subaru is in the minority for even offering the option. Dealers stock what they think will sell, but you can order.
-juice
Bob
Any ways the good news for me was the price of $13790.00 plus tax, lisc, and doc fees... Couldn't believe it but since it was at a non-Subaru dealership and I am in the SW only helps to drive down the price...
29,500 miles, clean Carfax report, and my own 20 plus years of automotive mechanical experience made sure I wasn't getting someone elses mess. But with the bumper to bumper and drivetrain warranties still going strong made me feel even better...
If your in the market for a used Subaru don't limit yourself to just a Subbie dealer, there's money to be saved buying from a Mitsubishi lot.. Now they obviously won't know squat about the specifics of the Subaru but who cares...
Billy
-juice
offered by e-mail - an invoice price hundreds lower than other dealers in the area, and free 6/60 extended warranty - was eventually honored when I finally came in person to negotiate the deal.
When I identified the Subaru Legacy GT as the car to buy about three weeks ago, I e-mailed the 9 closest Subaru dealerships for quotes. 5 internet sales managers replied. Southern was from the start and continued to be the most
responsive internet sales manager. After some more e-mail traffic with others, Southern came back with the best quote, which I used as the basis for re-asking others for quotes. For over a week, no other manager was willing to meet or beat Southern's offer except one - however that offer was only slightly better, but the dealer was not willing to put it in writing.
So I went to Southern with their quote - lowest invoice price in the area plus free extended warranty - as the basis for negotiations. Since my family buys and keeps cars until they're done, the extended warranty was a must for us, so in essence, we were saving close to $1000 compared with most other dealers in the areas.
To the surprise of some people, Southern honored their e-mail quote, with minimal hassle, and with a professional and courteous attitude.
Through my internet research of each local dealer, Southern was offering the lowest internet price in the metro DC area, often over $500 less.
Why? I'm guessing because most folks here don't think to drive to Charles County for a car. In reality for me, located in northern Virginia, Southern was the third closest dealership from my home, and without traffic, it was a 25 minute drive.
Rather than go to other dealers in the areas of the metro DC you'd traditionally think of in the
Fairfax, PG and Montgomery Counties, consider Southern. It's not really out of the way. I got the sense that some of the dealers in the metro area don't have to really work for your business, because other buyers are going to stop by.
Also, I got the sense that Southern at least for right now, is more interested in getting this extremely underrated car on the road for others to look at, instead of making the best deal right now. Eventually people will start getting wise to just how great a value this car is, and maybe then the prices will go up. But right now, this car's way under-rated, and in my mind the best value for the money.
It offers all wheel drive, is fast as a rocket, safe as a Volvo, low to the ground, has a great record of reliability over the years, and at a great price. Not as sexy as a BMW or Audi? Then spend another $20K for the same car. Not as trendy as a VW? Pay the same for a weaker engine and spotty reliability. Easily faster and more nimble than a Honda Accord V6 or the Altima V6. And none of these cars have all wheel drive.
Southern was the dealership which wanted my business the most, for a car that's under-valued at this time. They worked with me, and in the end provided great service and the best price. I recommend them.
Thanks for any comments.
18.5k is fair if that's from a dealer and it's immaculate.
-juice
Subarus (actually anything with 4x4) are way more expensive here than in other parts of the country. Why? Because people want them, and they pay too much, especially in the winter.
I've actually considered starting a business trailering used Subies from other parts of the country back here.
Shop around. You'll do better. Or, make a deal with a dealer in a nice place for a new '05, fly there, pick up the car, vacation, and drive it or have it shipped home. I bought a new AWD car in Florida once for $4000 less than I would have paid in CO. It was a long drive home though. I've seen good deals in Chicago and Dallas, although I don't recommend vacationing in January in either place.
What was your price?
I qualify for the VIP program (IMBA) which should mean invoice (plus advertising fees I was told). A friend said he'd gotton under invoice recently on an Outback 2.5i. Are people doing better than invoice on GTs?
All opinions appreciated.
-Barry
Would not recommend dealing with the Tulsa dealer until you have a price from Oklahoma City to make them meet.
I got an email from the dealer in Dallas the day after I bought my car that they would sell any legacy on the lot for invoice, but really it was worth $300 not to have to make the drive.
Considering above comments I may have to sell the car in CO!
I wonder if Subaru will have 6 speed mt for 2006. This would be a great addition and worth waiting for.
Now I'm wondering when the 2006s show up. The day before I sold the Audi, one of the dealerships called me to let me know that they can now do $500 under invoice. I figure there's usually a reason dealers/salespeople start handing out gifts.
Thanks again for the info.
This was a refreshing change from other dealers I have purchased cars from. I highly recommend them. Great job!
-juice
My target price was as follows:
Legacy GT, with Auto, Spoiler, Pop Equip Group 1
Base $26,095
Options $1,861
Dest. $575
MRSP $28,531
Invoice $26,155
Target -$500 below invoice based on several comments on this board.
Buy $25,655
Tax (5.1%) $1,308
Title/License $300 <-- I was kind of guessing this figure (perhaps a bit high).
OTD: $27,263.
The dealer phoned me today and said that they could do $27,250 out the door. Also I could finance for 3.9% for 63 months.
I'm very tempted - the car was very entertaining to drive, but the lack of ability to plug satelite radio and an ipod into the radio are probably deal breakers. Also, my family is off on vacation after the weekend, and so I would need to close in the next 4 days which will not happen as we are currently buying two cars and we need to finalize our other purchase (probably a Freestyle) before this one - just can not do all that and prepare to go on vacation in four days.
Its a shame as it seems a fair deal.
Incidentally, what should that total be for title and licensing?
Kerry
I will probably get the Legacy GT sedan. I've noticed that Fitzmall has excellent prices even if one includes automobile transportation costs to California. My question is what negatives are there to using Fitzmall. i.e., Would I have to pay extra taxes and licensure? (At CA and wherever they ship/sell the car to me?).
Any other advise would also be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Bob