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Anyways, this was what I posted last night:
Man what a day! After I finished up at work just enough so I could leave with a cell phone and a notepad, I headed straight to the dealer. I was in for a nasty surprise. The salesman had told me $24,400 over the phone but when I got there he said his boss wasn't going for that. He wanted $25,200 at least. The guy said he gave me the best deal possible and I turned it down. It was the 31st and he was indeed up for a bonus but it was now a fresh month and he wasn't that desperate. He told me to go ahead and check other dealers and see what kind of deals they offered, but he said not only was no one going to give me the price I wanted for the vehicle but no one was going to beat $25,200 either. If they did, then we could talk, Plus he said he had the exact style I wanted in the only color I wanted(black),and there would be a handful at best left in SoCal.
I was like eff this, and walked right out and started hitting other dealers, I visited 2 other dealers and called at least 8 more. The guy was right, no one would beat that price. At least 3 told me just told me to go get the truck, "seriously your truck @ 25.2 is like $1200 under invoice"(which does conflict with the $1300-$1400 under invoice @ 24,750 that I was told by another dealer), and they wouldn't play in that range.
I never got a call back from the guy so I swallowed my pride and went to the original dealership. The salesman wasn't there but we did a deal anyway. $25,000(after rebate) with half off on some seat covers. Oh well, I know when I got my [non-permissible content removed] kicked. I was tired and beat, my buddy was telling me on the phone just to get it or else I might get a deal on a truck but it probably wasn't going to be the exact one I wanted like this.....so I caved. :sick:
All said and done with finance charges over 3 years, Cali's massive tax, lic, doc fee etc I paid a lil under 29K not counting the rebate.
Hanks1, if you read this tomorrow. I talked to a guy, I think his name was ********* ***** at the Fontana Nissan dealership. He said he had a 91 dayer(whatever that means) like mine, and he could get a price close to the same as mine but in silver. That guy was really cool and very honest about what he could do(and not do) for me. If you are looking for a SE, 4x4, OR pkg, Pop pkg, Tow Pkg in silver you might want to hit him up, he's seems willing to come down in price and easy to work with.
Hopefully I don't have to go shopping for a truck for a long time, it grew tiresome real quick. I'm going to bed. This will probably be my last post, so thanks to all the people who helped me out with advice and input, especially you Thene. You da man!
Here's a pic I took this morning.
did you opt to take the rebate or no?
I took the $2500 rebate with 5.3% over 36 months with 10k down, it's a huge savings over the $500 rebate with 2% interest I think.
Wait: The "big boss" just called...Said $24,500 (after 2500 reb) was the best he could do. Again heres everything: SE KC 4x4, big tow, pop pack w/ captins, floormats, and no offroad
Whats the verdict??? Cash is burnin a hole in my pocket! haa
Titan SE $30,650
Crew Cab
4x4
SE Pop/w/Rockford $1,850
Offroad $1,150
Big Tow $400
SE Utility Bed $950
Floor mats $110
Under seat storage $140
Utilitrack bed extender $280
Destination charge $670
Total MSRP $36,200
I traded in a 93 ford ranger ext cab with 160k miles. Initially they only wanted to give me $1,200 trade. But I sat there and negotiated for 3 hours and finally finished right at 10 pm.
I gave them my truck and got this truck out the door for $30k even. Tax is 5% in idaho. Doc title & fees about $270.
So essentially the truck cost me right at $28,530 before tax and doc fees.
Do you think I got a good deal? The next day when I went in to pick up the truck, the sales manager showed me a piece of paper that said -$1,379.00. He said that was how much of a loss they took by selling me the truck and giving me a trade equavilent on my truck of $3,880 (could only retail at about $4k max). I'm not sure whether to believe him or not, but I own a Titan now....and I LIKE IT!!!
Brent
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looks like you got a fantastic deal, and i would be very happy with it. when dealers start telling you to go buy the truck from the other guy, thats a great sign. if they can knock off a $100 or two they would - but i guess this deal left NO room for them to try to win the deal.
btw, im the WOMAN ;-)
oh, and for menmyjp, a 91 dayer is one that has sat on the lot for 91 days -usually dealers do NOT want to keep cars that long - anything less than 30 days is ideal...you can usually do a little better price wise on vehicles that have been sitting on the lot for a while.
-thene
So the best thing to do is hold of on impulse and get what you WANT rather than what they want you to have. I checked on a '05 LE crew cab with big tow and it is only $27,409. So Haggle. Dont let them push you around. Good Day.
Thanks!
Big Tow
Off-Road
SE Popular with split bench
MSRP is over 34K
Non-sliding bed extender....but no bed utility pkg.. :-(
I offered 31K over the phone. Sales guy said no. I told him ok and said I'd come in at the end of the week to talk about it. He said he could get there with the $2000 rebate. I said I was thinking 31K before the rebate. He said to come in at the end of the week and talk. We hung up.
10 minutes later he called me back and said they'd take 31K. So with rebate, I got my Titan for 29K.
Anyone getting below MSPR minus invoice? I thought I read somewhere where there is a mfg to dealer thing going on, but I can't find anything about it.
And with interest rates on the uptick, it's even more imperative to hold out for that great deal!
also, if interest rates are on their way up, why wait longer? then your interest rate will only be higher, as you get the same deal as you would have now... (dealers still own the truck for the same price you know...its not gonna change by $2000 just because the interest rates went up)
anyways, my 2 cents...
-thene
I'm just trying to find out what's going on, that's all. Again, that's because this is a super competitive market.
its been a while since i read this thread - was your truck a rare one? if not, walk. tell them you'll buy elsewhere, and you'll send people elsewhere. when you are given a price repeatedly, it should be honored. speak to the general sales manager, show him your checkbook or credit card, and tell him the deal is $24,500, today, if not, he wont see you again. if it doesnt work, walk. your apparently dealing with a dealer who's less than respectable anyways...
good luck!
-thene
I just talked with a dealer in Fayetteville AR. He said take any Titan you want on the lot home for MSRP -$6,500 + $199. doc fee and $199 pinstripe. Basically any titan at $6,102 off. I asked him about why the mass amount of deals they were willing to make at under hold back?? He said, they have a new dealership coming in up the road and they are kicking off a program to move alot of vehicles in a very short period of time in order to project huge numbers for the dealership. Does this sound fishy or is it realistic?
good luck!
-thene
Anyway thanks again - you da woman
Hank
-thene
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106838
-thene
its tough because the dealer still owns that vehicle for $xx,xxx and has to make a deal around that. but with the new ones probably going for close to invoice anyways, what incentive do you have in taking an 05?
its a tough predicament, and i cant tell you what to expect, but you can see what the best you can do on one of those is - especially if its a weirdly equipped truck (odd color/equipment etc)
good luck!
-thene
my rule of thumb has always to negotiate the best deal that day and sign the deal, once you go back they never return to the original point of negotiation because the stats say that once you leave and don't take the initial deal the chances of you coming back are only 1.5%, but if you come back, the odds get infinitely better, so they can hardball you more...
I always do my pricing research away from the target dealer, and if I have to test drive and try it out, I'll do it at another dealership...
Its very hard to come back and expect negotitations to restart where you left off...
Thanks for the input.
Thanks
2005 Titan SE w/ Big tow package for 25,297 (27,547 with 2,250 rebate)
titan crew cab SE with big tow package, utility package
for 28000. The invoice is 28600 I think. I took the now $750 rebate with 3.0 financing rather than the 2250 rebate.
not gonna sucker me into making post #666, no way, uh uh. not gonna do it...
I just got my Titan (finally after 6 months waiting for $$). Got 05 King cab SE with Rock Fosgate, 4x4 Off-road, Bedliner, Mats for $27454 otd - with the tax in my area the price for the truck alone was about $25000 clean after the rebate. I would recommend the guys at Power Nissan Torrance - internet sales, I found the experience to be very hassle free in the end. I just told them I wanted the same deal that they gave another visitor to this website who bought a truck a week before me -and they beat it.
Anyway thanks to Thene and Waterfowler for all your help,
I won't be back there.
I want an XE Crew 4x4 and the prices I've been offered from just about everyone here are right around $26500.
Only thing that has set any one dealer apart is that one is willing to install the brake rotor replacement kit before I pick up the truck.
$24,789 = Negotiated price
- 2,500 = Nissan Rebate
$22,289 = Price before TTL and Fees
+ 199.99 = Doc Fee
$22,488 OTD (didn't pay the 3.25% sales tax yet because I will tag/title the truck in another state)
So basically $23,218.36 including TTL
I couldn't have been happier with the deal...I was worried about it at first because I had driven 13 hours and felt like if I was put into a bad spot I didn't have much leverage to walk...But I had the deal worked out and brought the printed email along with me. Pulled into the dealership,the truck was at the "overflow" lot, got in it,drove directly to the gas station,then straight into the wash bay,then walked into the financing office. The salesman was a older gentlemen and a no BS kind of guy who worked very hard for me and I felt like I got a great deal! I would strongly reccomend checking into the internet department at a Nissan dealership in Fayetteville, AR. I felt it was worth my drive.
FWIW I just got a fax from a dealer on a similar truck. It had an MSRP of 33570 and he was selling it for 27175 plus TTL and a $250 processing fee. In this area you can easily buy WAY below invoice.
-thene
CrewCab is at $2500. Good luck shopping.
007
It rides well, is smooth, lots of power, and the power features are really great.
It has the rear bumper sonar - did not think much of it until I started driving - real nice feature.
The 5 disc cd changer is nice. Very pleasant to put in your library of best CD's burned from the computer and it plays perfectly.
I also went ahead and picked up the "tent kit" for the bed. Just a nice accessory for those long vacation road trips.
I'm not a vain fellow - but two people have complimented me on the "nice truck" thing while at the gas station.
When I heard Nissan donated 50 Titans for Katrina relief - I knew I found the right package. Great truck.
As a former Chevy truck owner for 25 years, I'll never go back. Nissan quality is excellent and they stand behind their product.
I've had so many bad experiences with GM - plus my father has had big problems with his 2001 Tahoe. He's given up on GM too - sad to see a great industrial giant go down the tubes like that.
Titan may not have large market penetration now, but given a few years they will really put a dent in GM and F-150 territory.
As for Ford - at leat they circled the problem. GM is in denial.
Any thoughts?
:lemon:
It is a 2004 Nissan 4X4 Crew cab with 24,000 miles. It comes with 6 CD player, XM, spay on bed liner, power locks, doors, windows, AC, floor mats, cruise control, and security system. I paid 24,000 for the truck, just wanted to hear from other Titan owners if I got a good deal or not.