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Audited by who?
I can understand that this business practice must appear to be fair but I question if a case can be made about this. Businesses are entitled to charge what they determine to be a reasonable price for a good/service; the problem for many consumers is accepting fees that are added after a negotiated transaction has been calculated. If dealers showed these fees as part of the negotiation then there may be less friction at the end. Life would so simple if a cost breakdown could be shown upfront: (MSRP + Options) - Discount + (Freight + Handling + Doc + License + Taxes) = Out the Door Price.
All dealer fees are supposed to be on display in the dealership, and that is supposed to be charges to everyone, no exceptions.
The only instances where this can be excluded is if you are purchasing a wholesale piece, with a wholesaler license.
In a perfect world, all of this would be disclosed by salesmen once numbers start to fly, however, we do not live in a prefect world. There are still to many idiotic salesmen out there.
I'm looking for a bit of help here. I'm a first time buyer with a fixed budget and would like to know what kind M3i sedan I can get in the sub $12,000 range. I don't need anything extravagant and am willing to sacrifice certain features to stay within my budget. The only feature I require is air conditioning, which from what I've gathered costs about $880.00.
Initially I had planned on buying a new 07 Mazda 3i but my financial circumstances have changed slightly and so I have to compromise. Surely, a 2004 or possibly even 2005 model can be had for 12k OTD or less, right? Ideally the car would come under full warrantee and in new or like-new condition.
I'm looking namely for a Mazda 3i 4-door sedan in Titanium Gray, preferably a 2004 model or newer.
I'd appreciate any help. So far, it seems as though even some of the used cars are only 2 or 3k less expensive than a brand new 07 from the dealer (which is confusing to me.) Where is a good place to look for used cars? I plan on putting about 5k down and financing the residual amount. I'd like to keep the monthly payments at $200.00 or less.
Thanks,
Mason
I'm moving to L.A. for a job and either will buy here in Ohio or LA.
Quoted in Ohio $17,318, out-of-door estimate =$18,926.61.
IS out-of-door quote correct? Find any offers in LA similiar? Need to justify driving this to CALI!!!
2007 Mazda3 itouring (autom) w/ ABS and moonroof pkgs, Silvr
Check out the CARB site to verify
What model should I be looking for and approximately how much $? Paying cash if that matters.
Live in the tampa bay area.
Thanks.
The model I am getting is the Touring with 5AT and 6 CD / moonroof package. I was quoted an out the door price of $20,928.
The dealer is finding the car I want and I should be purchasing next week. So far the process has been very easy with no pressure and quick replies to all questions.
The i models come with a 150 hp, 135 lb-ft 2.0 liter I4 with either a 5 speed manual or 4 speed automatic, and is only available in the sedan configuration.
The s models come with a 156 hp, 150 lb-ft 2.3 liter I4 with either a 5 speed manual or 5 speed automatic, and is available in both sedan and 5 door hatchback configurations.
There are then 3 'grades' of the Mazda 3. Sport, Touring, and Grand Touring. The 3i comes in Sport or Touring. The 3s comes in Sport, Touring and Grand Touring.
If you want the i model, you would have to get the Touring to get the power windows/locks, keyless entry, etc. You would also have to add the 6 CD / moonroof package and the rear wing spoiler. Edmunds' TMV is around $18,700
You could also get an s model, with a Sport model, and also add the 6 CD / moonroof and rear wing spoiler. Edmunds' TMV is around $19,700.
Both prices assume 4 door model with the automatic transmission.
Basically, for around $1,000 you get the more powerful engines plus maybe a few other differences.
Hope this helps.
JC
I got about $400 below the invoice and the OTD was about $168XX. The APR was 1.9%.
The whole buying process was painless and smooth.
I just wonder if it's a good deal.
Any comments???
I have been looking at the 2007 Mazda3 I sport automatic
The options I have selected are solely air, and abs brakes. I really only want the car in black or phantom purple.
I have been quoted an out the door price of 16,100$ for the 2007 mazda3 I, automatic with ac and abs with tossed in features of tinted windows and vin etching. I was quoted this price after going back and forth between 4 dealers and this is the best price I have gotten so far. This dealership has the car in stock but only in grey and they have 6 in stock. The best quote I recieved from the only other dealership that has the car in stock was 16,400 but the car only has ac and would not come with abs, tinted or vin etching.But its purple.
I was also quoted 16278 "out the door" from a different dealership for the same package however this car has a spolier.But this dealer wants a deposit "today" because they don't have the car in stock nor do they have the car at all in any color so no matter what I would have to wait. and I'm not willing to put down a deposit hearing all your horror stories and because I don't want to purchase the car for another week to two weeks.But this dealership seems to be the one willing to try and get me the best price?
What do you guys think?
I take it you took the 36 mo term.
The special financing on the Mazda3 now is incredable. I am rather surprised they did it. All should take advantage.
Any rumors of better deals next month? President's Day always seems to be such a push for car sales.
I'm a first time car buyer. I just bought a 2007 Mazda 3 Sport (hatchback) GT model with no other options for $27,412.13 CDN. Did I get ripped off? I'm in British Columbia, Canada, so our tax is 13%!
24,701.00
27.90 BC battery fee
3,211.13 GST & PST (tax)
(500) grad rebate
27,412.13 TOTAL
Test drove and thought it's okay to buy, so got it with 1.9% APR financing, this promotion ends on Jan 31, 2007.
The experience is very smooth. Thanks to all of your posts that helped me getting this price.
My wife has a 2005s Sedan that we really like. I wanted something a little different for the sake of variety and was particularly interested in the new 2007 Elantra. Went to the Hyundai store to check it out--horrible dealer experience. And, they say that Hyundai isn't producing 5-speed (manual transmission) Elantra's yet.
Went to the Mazda dealer and had a very, very smooth experience. Test drove several vehicles, they gave me "best prices" without quibbling. Bottom line, I got the Mazda 3 Sport hatchback, 5-speed, 17-inch alloy wheels, ABS, etc., for $15,300. Out-the-Door with tax, title, license, etc. for $17,296. For reference, this is in the San Diego area.
Anyway, we've really enjoyed the wife's Mazda 3--have never had a lick of trouble out of it. Looking forward to a similar experience with this new car.
Regards,
Bill
But since you like how the Mazda3 drives, you'll probably like your new hatchback more than the Elantra--plus the 2007 Elantra doesn't come in a hatchback.
Just picked up my new Mazda3 S Grand Touring 5-door in Black Mica. She is BEAUTIFUL!! Car was custom ordered so that I could get a 5 speed, signed the purchase order September 5th- car delivered January 20th. Worth the wait- love it!!!! Wonderful salesman- fun experience, Eagle Auto Mall in Riverhead, Long Island.
Options- Bose audio and moonroof package, moonroof wind deflector, rear bumper step plate, cargo net, all weather cargo tray, all weather floor mats.
paid $21,076 + 8.65% sales tax in NY, plates, reg, title, NY tire waste fee, silly $55 dealer fee for processing= OTD final price of 23,071.31
It's all good
Regardless, I do like my new Mazda 3 5-Door very much.
Regattagirl--congrats on the new car. We're just alike (except you probably have more hair): Mine's Black Mica as well. I'm hoping it won't show scratches the same way that a classic black finish does. Have my fingers crossed.
All best,
Bill
called as a costco member, he tacked onto the invoice ($19,611): +$241 advertising fee, +$250 costco markup, +$595 destination fee. All else matches invoice. What do you guys think? Above market is okay for the '07 S Touring?
does the $19,611 include the 595 destination charge, cause it seems it should?
Quick look at nada.com shows an invoice of $19,699 INCLUDING $595 destination for this car. If you've got a price of $20,200 out the door for the car, I'd say you're doing Ok.
-Jicbulk
Also, update, the salesman just called me back and knocked off $300 "because another salesman was showing the car" (blah blah blah). So now i'm at invoice +$191 ($20,397) "advertising fee", nothing else but TTI. Seems good, right?
D
Only option I wanted was the Moonroof/Cd package in Phantom Blue (we have a grey truck and a silver CR-V, so I had to go different...).
Tully Mazda in Nashua, NH gave us the AAA deal of $300 over invoice. Showed me the invoice which matches Edmunds exactly. They add in a $25 title fee and $99 admin fee which are very competitive here in New England. They actually did a search for the car and found one in RI that also had the wheel locks. No problem and we pick it up a week from today. Looking forward to it.... :shades:
-Jicbulk
We're looking to buy a 3i Touring with the "Safety" Package (ABS/SAC). I've been calling around dealers in NY/NJ/PA and the best offer I have so far is:
$15,865
$595 (destination charge)
$1378.50 Tax (NY 8.375%)
$129 (Dealer document fee)
$131 (Title, plates, and reg.)
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$18,099 Grand Total
Am I being tooken?
Suggestions are welcome!
Thanks!
Kartik
You're correct. I got over-excited (and confused). The price was just under $15,900 and the OTD was just under $17,300. The particular car was an advertising lead-in from the newspaper (those cars actually exist!). They did not charge me any of the dealer prep or other tack ons. And to top it off, they were very pleasant and efficient--really nice folks.
Regards,
Bill
I received a price of $21620 for the 3s 4 dr, 5 speed manual, Moonroof & Bose & Sirius. Does this price sound pretty reasonable?
Thanks!
I believe it was about 600 or so, I don't have my paperwork here.
I'm also trying to figure out if the CD changer will play MP3's I'm getting conflcting info, would you happen to know if the Bose/6CD changer package plays MP3's?
Thanks!
Keep in mind, that price is if you order it from the factory. If the dealer has to install it, it is more. You cannot go by Edmunds if it is dealer installed. $600 is about what retail is on that dealer installed.
It kind of disappoints me that Mazda a) isn't very forthcoming about this in any of their literature, and b) couldn't develop an audio system where the aux input is still usable without having to buy the switchbox for $120 on top of the $430-$600 for the sat radio.
I'm still enjoying the system as a whole so far
3i Touring, with ABS/SAB/SAC
Ice Blue/Beige, $18,045 M.S.R.P.
$16,200 net, + tax, tag, and $397 dealer svc. fee
Seems like a good deal - this is after a bit of back and forth between two dealers in N. Carolina.
Thoughts?
Scott
Sounds about right for the MSRP for that package, but what's with the "dealer svc. fee?" I don't think I'd pay that. Cross it out on the cost sheet and see what they say.