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They all knock on cold start. The difference is how cold does it get where you live and how long do you let it warm up before placing in drive. If your in a colder climate that gets down below 40 F and you place your 5.7 in drive with a little load you will hear it clear. Now if you warm it up for about 3 minutes before you place it in drive you will have to really focus to hear it. That being said I am of the oppinion this is normal and have since stopped worrying about it.
I will close by telling you this...I had...and repeat had a 5.7 ltr with a knock, Toyota changed the engine in it. Ford/Chevy/Dodge would NEVER do what Toyota did! I have owned about 15 trucks, mostly Ford, couple of Chevys, and only ONE POS Dodge and I don't think I will ever go back. Toyota service after the sale and standing behind their product will keep me coming back.
My Tundra now has 21K on it and I promise it still drives like the day I drove it off the lot...and that is because they didn't forget about me after the sale.
KL67
I need my Tundra to pull my 8000#, 30.5' RV, I had a smoother riding Dodge 1/2 ton hemi for 6 months and then bought my RV. The Dodge was supposed to be able to pull the camper no problem, I was well within the GVW rating of the Dodge...but it would not do it! The slightest hill and the tranny would downshift into 3rd and run upwards of 3900 RPM at hwy speeds. With my Tundra I simply manually shift into 4th and run at 3000 RPM until I am over the hill I need to climb. The Tundra is hands down the better tow vehicle...I am in control of my truck/RV instead of the computer telling my truck when to shift and it being in control.
I will put up with a little bounce and jiggle over $4.00 deseil and a kidney belt or something that rides like a car and pulls like one too!
My 2 cents...
KL67
Personally, my 4X4 has been excellent with no problems whatsoever. Every electric shift 4X4 I've ever been in sometimes requires a little coaxing to get in and out of low range. That goes for all makes. It's simply the nature of how the transfer case operates. I hope the C/R staff weren't 4X4 rookies and didn't know that.
Since then I have discovered that the manner in which CR comes up with its ratings are, in my opinion, deeply flawed. Since my purchase in Dec 07, CR contacted me for an online reliability survey (I am a member). Real crappy survey for it asks fairly broad based generic questions that don't support their far reaching "expert" results.
I think the main reasons for the poor 4X4 rating might have had something to do with recall on the substandard heat treatment of the (?) drive shaft and cam shaft failures (both on early production runs that were due to bad parts from suppliers and fixed quickly). Also, they complained about the vehicle stability control (VSC) being disengaged when the 4wd is engaged. A previous poster had an excellent comment as to why the VSC is disengaged.
What I dont understand is that, except for the 4wd or 2wd, the vehicles are identical within their respective trim lines. So how does CR rate, for example, the sound system on one 2wd better than the 4wd? They had lots of discrepancies like that in their ratings chart.
I think CR is still a decent consumer resource for vehicles, but the next time I purchase a vehicle, I wont be treating their word as the gospel I had before.
Ive been manually tracking my gas and have averaged 14.5 us mpg with mostly city driving (65/35). On a couple of pure hiway trips, my mileage went up to 18 us mpg, averaging about 70mph. The revised EPA ratings for fuel economy are suprisingly accurate for I am consistently close to their results (which is WAY down from the original b.s. specs. when i bougth the truck in December).
By the way - it was BIG - right behind it was a regualr Tundra and it looked small compared to it. Side by Side to one of the Big Three's current trucks I would say that it is larger than them. It definately looks like it has the ability to out do Ford, Dodge and GM. GM's new trucks due out this fall may be comparable, but knowing how they flubbed the Colorado with the knowledge that a new Tacoma was coming out and didn't make it good enough to really compete, who knows if the new Silverado/Sierra will have the brawn to go against the new Tundra??
Anyone that has had their engine replaced if they could email me as to were their dealer is the the dealers name and telephone number would be appreaciated
now the door stop has broken and the dealer says not covered under warranty toyota agrees with dealer and says to treat the tundra tenderly per ashley in ca. last week
I have a 2008 Tundra w/ the 5.7 liter as well. I've done some research on the 5.7 engine knock. Toyota utilizes "short skirt" pistons. When the piston is on the power stroke (4 stroke engine) the short skirts causes the piston to rock back and forth (slightly) in the cylinders. When it is cold out side the knocking is loudly due to the metal of the pistons and cylinder walls being smaller. As the engine warms up the metal the gaps between the metal surfaces decreases. This helps quiet the knocking but not completely. My 5.7 knocks as well, if that makes you feel any better. Obviously, I have not heard how loudly your Tundra's engine is knocking. I can tell you that mine is quite loud when the abient temp. is 40 degrees or less. I have spoken to my local dealer and their responce matches what I have found out through Toyota Motor Corp. myself. Many manufactures use short skirt pistons in high performance engines. Motorcycle manufactures have used this technology for years without any failures. Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki use this technology for lighter wieght pistons in their sport bikes to allow higher rpms for higher peak horsepower. I can only guess that Toyota has done the same with the 5.7 liter V8. (Toyota owns a good portion of Yamaha Motor Corp.) Yamaha builds some engines for Toyota.
It take at least 15 mintues of driving to get the knock out . Sounds like a diesel
Please if you could email me at : msportraits@salsburystudio.com
then I can discuss this with your dealer
Can you tell ne the name of the dealer ( and address or were it is ) that replaced your engine on your 5.7 L . My dealer just says " its normal " .
It take at least 15 mintues of driving to get the knock out . Sounds like a diesel
Please if you could email me at : msportraits@salsburystudio.com
then I can discuss this with your dealer
My dealer just says the engine knock (the diesel sound that last at least 15 minutes or more before it quiets down but does not go away ) they say " its normal " I even listened to my neibours tundra and his does not do that
Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Isuzu, Internationals, Freightliners? others?
how many individuals do you think will not purchase remaining 2008s after reading this discussion/ being educated by toyota engineers as to what is progress of investigation / transparency / open dialogue,
is this a sticker for purchase, resale values, detriment to investments for the stockholders? it is design / manufacturing / engineering / or business problem? why does it happen on some as opposed to others? what type diagnostics are needed to discern this problem on others that may have not heard?
Do the vehicles in question have similarity ,,time date manufactured?
one run two runs,,what type numbers quanify recall?
reason for lower prices in Texas? discounts showing tundratalk.net 21.56% to 26% realcartips.com will the discount grow greater as time wanes on? will anyone purchase 2009s 2010s for fear that the problem will manifest without follow up?
a potential custome wants to know these things in advance,
having nvever worked with toyota before.
what has changed with Toyota and spirit of excellence?
What after the 100,000 mile mark with noise issue being detected prior
to 100,000 mile mark>>#1 customer inquiries, #1001 customer inquiries
Toyota will Replace Engine with other associated mechanics problems
all in Good Faith at What Cost to Consumer? at What Cost to Stockholder?
$20k turning into $40k actual cost of vehicle to be determined?
Cost benefit Ratio How many actually will notice? How many will actually contact Dealer? How many will actually know that this is Toyota's problem and not consumer? Did you change your oil? Did you change your transmission? You had work done to vehicle outside the Dealership? Does this void the warranty?
Free of charge , to consumer, parts and labor ,,handshake,,Moving Forward
with piston slap engine noise damage, are isolated issues
this group seems to be very consistent
alot more toyota messages than other brands
possibly someone know s 2007 2008 5.7L owners who do have 100k miles
on truck ,,extra ordinary but perhaps uncle friend neighbor, person @ work
mechanic who works on american vs japanese tundra 5.7Liters
what is the response of driver with mulitiple miles
behind wheel of newer engine,,short piston?
Neither was the 4wd unit going out, while needed, in the snow.
Now there's an engine noise. This truck is junkier than the dodge I had! Who built this POS?
Perhaps if you are truly that disgusted with your truck you should go back to a Dodge product?
My 4WD unit decided to get itself stuck in 4WD Hi not too long ago. Toyota has since issued a "TSB" or Technical Service Bulletin that updates the actuators for the 4WD system as well as a newer 4WD ECU. I am sorry you feel as though your Tundra is a POS. As to who built your truck...Americans in an American plant not a Mexican south of the border as you will find with a Dodge product.
I realize you are not happy with the truck you purchased and given the amount of money new vehicles cost I can feel you pain. However I am unsure of what expectations you preceive to have. Nothing in this world is perfect. I have answered your noise question with all the knowledge I have acquired through the proper channels. It sounds as if you have two choices...live with the noise or buy purchase another make or model. Good luck.
xfer case actuator issue is a whole other can of worms. I'm not how toyota designed this xfer case (2spd on 6 sp AT/5.7) but it is not only fickle, but slow to respond and engage, it seems like aroll of the dice with the xfer case at times.
I've now had mine replaced (at 3K miles). Works OK, but still clunky. Disappointing anyway, from a toyota. Transmission now whines, as if there is something not lined up properly...probably because something isn't! It's been in the shop for more than a month out of the past six months--not what I expected from a new toyota truck.
As far as expectations.....
1. Toyota should at least acknolage the problem and replace or fix the engines that are knocking. I went to the dealer and started a NEW truck and they do not knock at all . Even my neigbours tundra does not knock.
2. Well yes , I could sell my truck but then who in their right mind would give me a proper market price with an engine that knocks . Maybe Toyota should do a buy back and try to sell their knocking trucks themselves and see how much fun they have trying to sell all the knocking tundra.
So all in all Toyota has left the customer holding the bag with a knocking truck that will be very hard for the owner to getgood resell value on. As started on other posts Toyota's 2009 tundra engines are built different and they do not have those proboems. Hmmm maybe Toyota should be replacing the 07's with the new improved 09's engines there is an idea !!
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You say " 5.7 liter V8 is due to the use of short piston skirts." You sound like a dealer .Are you a Toyota rep yourself ?
You say "You will hear the same exact "piston slap" on a new Nissan or Dodge for that matter " My cousin repairs Nissans at a Nissan dealer and they do not have piston slap. My wife owns a aluminum short shirt Nissan engine and NO it does not knock no matter how hard I try and listen.
As far as expectations.....
1. Toyota should at least acknolage the problem and replace or fix the engines that are knocking. I went to the dealer and started a NEW truck and they do not knock at all . Even my neigbours tundra does not knock.
2. Well yes , I could sell my truck but then who in their right mind would give me a proper market price with an engine that knocks . Maybe Toyota should do a buy back and try to sell their knocking trucks themselves and see how much fun they have trying to sell all the knocking tundra.
So all in all Toyota has left the customer holding the bag with a knocking truck that will be very hard for the owner to getgood resell value on. As started on other posts Toyota's 2009 tundra engines are built different and they do not have those proboems. Hmmm maybe Toyota should be replacing the 07's with the new improved 09's engines there is an idea !!
Could this truck use a 7 or 8 speed tranny, and go for even better mileage? I get about 18.5 mixed use (no-load), and about 16.5 on some load, and about 12.5 on heavy trailer-pull.
Personally prefer a Garmin (a portable GPS) over factory navigation system, for better carrying possibility, and update/upgrade ease.
Whats wrong with those squeaky OEM Dunlop tires, may be good for MPG, but may not be ideal for good grip/traction. What tires do you suggest for on-road comfort and minor construction-site (dirt/unpaved) use?
Is 2010 model doing any better - mpg, features and/or price ?
ch1rrav
Problems: Does not tow my 3500lb travel trailer well, almost like I am dragging it. I checked the camper brakes, it was in tow/haul mode..etc.. everything was done according to the owners manual and my dealership.
Shifting problems: When I am stopped in traffic, stop sign..etc then go when it is ok to the truck rev's up like it's in neutral hits 3rd or 4rth gear then a slight bang then the truck takes off?
Rumble strip sound at 35mph, vibration to shake the truck until I step on the gas to get to the next gear.
What I have done: Gone to my dealership twice with these issues and just because they can't duplicate it, sorry nothing they can do.
Went to a dealer one hour away from me they checked diagnostics, transmission fluid, took a drive with a tech. Can't duplicate, sorry nothing they can do. The tech told me when I feel the shutter to shift to standard mode to try and release the torque converter. Ok.. it's happend 5 times since my appointment, and yes changing to standard mode releases the converter. Called them and told them the news. They say thank you for the information, however it seems that my truck has the most current torque converter in so there is no need to change it????? hmm... just because Toyota changed out all the converters a few before my vin number doesn't mean mine isn't defective.
New issue: Had my 6month old pregnant wife in the car with my 16 month old sleeping. Stopped at a light, turns green I go... rev's like it's in neutral again, hits 3rd gear or so, huge bang under truck (wakes up sleeping baby), truck takes off to the point where we are thrown back into our seats a bit, then goes. This pretty much scared everyone including myself. I will no longer have anyone but myself in the truck, as I feel it's unsafe.
I have written a letter to Toyota in California, which I am sure nothing will come of it. I am disgusted with how this is being handled. I love my truck, but I can't be worried constantly for my families safety (as well as myself and others on the road). If I could pay off what I owe I would and get some other truck, but since I can't I am stuck right now. Any suggestions? thanks a bunch.
I am going to ask a Toyota repair technician I know tomorrow about your Tundra's odd behavior. I just can't understand why it's acting the way it is. I doesn't make any sense. I can't recall whether or not you had mentioned if the 1st dealer checked the transmission fluid level. Both the of the auto. trans that come. in the Tundra do not have a dipstick to check the fluid level. Perhaps yours was not completely filled at the factory? The Tundra uses the "new world" transmission fluid which is supposed to last the lifetime of the truck and is checked at 100k mile service. And is not scheduled to be replaced/flushed unless it's viscosity is incorrect at a certain temperature. My Tundra occasionally bangs while driving normally on level ground at speeds between 30 to 40 mph. It does it went it is coming out of overdrive or into overdrive (6th gear) But is not as violent as what you have described in your posting.