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I could have bought it this afternoon, but I had my sights set on the TRD Sport Package. And that's what I factory-ordered today. It's packed with options and accessories for a MSRP of $33,300, but I paid $29,488, just $600 over invoice.
I also saved about $300 in sales taxes by leaving Pierce County, WA and driving south to Lewis County, WA. A short drive with good return on my money.
This feature is not the same as traction control which brakes one of the wheels that is turning faster than the other, my Colorado has that too with a on/off button to switch it on and off.
Maybe I am misunderstanding that Toyota offers a feature like this but doesn't kick in until you are going 5 mph which would defeat it's purpose trying to start out. I hope that I am wrong because it is a great feature that I would add to a Tacoma if I bought one. Jury is still out so far on purchase of the Tacoma, Colorado is kind of noisey but offers geat power with great mpgs but questionable reliability.
MSRP-28,330
Our purchase price= 26,650+ 5% WV sales tax
with floor mats and cargo net included. Price already includes the 565 handling/delivery fee.
We have 4 dealers in this area. After getting this price I called around. One dealer didn't even have the truck in yet, one said the best they could do was 27,500, the other said 26,700. All dealerships here have VERY limited selection. The one that I bought is the first 05 this dealership is getting. Arrives Monday.
I know that if we had waited longer we probably could have got a better deal, but my wife just totaled our last car (she's ok) and we had to buy now. Anyway, does that sound like a decent deal? Thanks, hope this info helps others.
The TRD sport pkg comes with what you have on your truck -- a limited slip differential (LSD). This is usually an automatic setup that transfers SOME power to the wheel that has grip. It is great for wet and snowy roads and some off road situations. It has significant limitations as off roading goes, but for the "sport" pkg which is more for ON road performance, the LSD is great.
Both are useful rear end configs that have benefits for strictly different styles of truck usage. Someone else will chime in I bet with some more on.
Does anyone have recommendations on a bed/box cover? The roll-up covers look good, but do they leak in the rain?
Thanks.
Company Info:
E.D. Industries Inc.
Rogersville, MO
TEL: (417) 753-8000
or (877) 210-8800
FAX: (417) 753-7999
sales@undercoverinfo.com
http://www.undercoverinfo.com/
Review for the Undercover: http://www.truck-accessory-review.com/undercover.html
"We anticipate having the '05 Toyota Tacoma cover available late in the first quarter of 2005, or early in the second quarter, barring any unforeseen delays."
Also, I received an Error code on my 6 disc CD as well when it was changing from one CD to the next in the stack. I ejected the CD and re-loaded it and it worked fine, but I am concerned it will do this with more frequency in the future. Any other similar experiences out there?
One thing I've noticed is that it appears someone will have to remove the entire center part of the dash to service, repair, or replace the main part of the audio system.
are slightly thicker than commercial cd's and have been know to stick in changers
SRandyT
Also, holdback: $700.
What is TDA? I've never heard of this standard fee "across new england". Has anyone else? Also, why would they add holdback into the price?
Please enlighten me!
Thanks.
As for the holdback, Toyota pays that to the dealer for each vehicle sold. Normally it is a percentage of the MSRP and likely varies from vehicle to vehicle. It is not part of the MSRP but is how the dealer can advertise vehicles at "invoice cost" and still make a profit.
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Dealer filled it with regular gas in Denver (5000 ft). No knocks, ticks or pings. Have gone over it with a fine tooth comb, no initial problems or defects. I removed the center middle headrest which was a major rear view obstruction.
Last night I took it to a nearby rather hilly old cemetary where the roads are covered with refrozen black ice and snow. I was utterly amazed at the good traction and braking while in 2 wheel drive. My old truck was hopeless in 2WD on ice both for starting up, handling and stopping. The Tacoma, in 2WD started drove and stopped like my AWD Subaru on glare ice. Since ice driving isn't something easy to test out I was pleaseantly surprised. Also the smoothness of the 5-speed auto is more impressive than when I tested it.
How does it feel lengthwise? I like the size in general, but it does seem awfully long. No dealers here in New England have the DC long bed. I've driven several DC SB, so any thoughts on how the LB compares would be great.
It's long but not any longer than the typical full-sized pickup out now. It fits in my garage nicely and the less than full-sized width is a big plus when parking compared to something like a Tundra Double-cab. I did a U-turn today in the same or smaller circle than my old truck, a Mazda 2600 which is much shorter.
Cosmetically I think the extended cab and Double-cab long-beds look great. The Double cab with the 5 foot bed looks way out of proportion, like a Fort Explorer sport-track or something like that. I'll put a shell on for camping, hunting, and fishing trips and need something to sleep in for when I get to my campsite late and/or really bad weather and don't feel like setting up the tent in the dark/rain/snow. You can't sleep in a 5 foot bed unless you are a midget.
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The composite material has been modified. The Tacomas I've seen have the composite running up and over the bed rail. It appears that it has been cut away for the truck cap in these pictures. I'm thinking that he may have induced the crack by cutting away the composite.
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I took my 05 Double Cab 4x4 Long Bed out 4x4'ing this weekend in and around Death Valley. We went on some pretty rough washboard roads and did some boulder crawling up some washes. I have done much worse with my old truck - a 2002 Tacoma 4x4 ext. cab. I also had the same shell that was mounted on my old truck on the new truck.
When I got home and removed the shell (as I always do so I can drive the truck to work), I noticed a huge crack on the driver side of the bed. The crack goes all the way through the bed. Pictures are attached.
Needless to say I am very pissed off that one 4x4 trip cracked the bed. I would have thought Toyota would have tested this material thouroughly before selling them to the public. I hope this will be easy to warranty.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used 05 Tacoma?
-Chris
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It's my understanding that the purpose of the holdback is to cover the interest the dealer pays to have the vehicle in inventory. Theoretically, if a dealer sells the vehicle the day it hits the lot, he gets all the holdback. The longer the vehicle is in his inventory, the less of the holdback he makes as profit.
Theoretically, everything's negotiable, including TDA and holdback, but I've never been successful buying a Toyota for less than "invoice" price, which included the TDA, and usually the fleet office wants $200 over invoice. The profit the dealer made was from the holdback amount.
I received word this weekend that my Tacoma with the TRD Sports Package goes through the assembly line on January 3rd. Delivery to me should occur about 18 days later. I can give my opinion on the ride if you haven't heard by then. I suspect that the biggest performance difference is the change in wheels/tires. The larger wheels probably provide better a better ride. If I remember correctly, the bigger wheels/tires still give the same circumference as the smaller option, it's just that the profile is different, and that should equate to better control/cornering.
Weird thing about the Sport: some colors aren't available. I have to change from the Impluse Red to one of the approved colors for this package. You can't get VSC options with the double-cab sport either. You might end up paying for the limited-slip twice, so they make the traction controls unavailable.
The auto-dimming mirror is usually available on the DC longbed models. Although, Toyota told me that the port or any certified Toyota dealerships can install the auto-dimming mirror. However, because of safety reasons, they usually make the mirror unavailable in a vehicle with curtain side airbags.
You can't use their seat covers as an option too. They restrict the curtain side airbags from deploying. You would have to get after-market seat covers with velcro attachments.
They are also talking about offering a 7th injector kit for the supercharger and if it boosts the power as much as it did on the 3.4L V6 it will give about 35 to 45 more HP! so if you add the TRD supercharger with 7th injector, headers, exhaust and air intake you are looking at around 400hp if TRD's numbers are accurate! It will cost you about $5000 for all the parts though!
Nissans supercharger only adds about 25- 30hp.
ADP is the same thing!
DO NOT PAY FOR THAT!!! It is a scam that dealers try to pull to boost profits. Here is what carbuyingtips.com says about it:
ADM or ADP
Bogus charges added by greedy dealers. It means "Additional Dealer Markup" or "Additional Dealer Profit", and appears on a sticker next to manufacturer's MSRP sticker. I call it Arrogant Dealer Markup. ADM is an artificial buffer to bargain down the price. If ADM is $1000 and you talk them down $800, you still paid MSRP plus $200 for the car! If you see this toxic waste, have them nix it. One buyer of a Honda Civic got the dealer to drop a $1995 ADM! But what if she had no idea what was going on?
Most dealers will tell you they don't know what the fee is for and that they charge that fee on every car they sell and you have to pay it! WRONG! I would walk out if they tried to charge me that fee! Most of the time you can get it dropped if they want to make the sale. For a good list of fees that dealers try to add go to
www.carbuyingtips.com
Chapter 3 of the new car buying tips has the fees listed. Don't fall for any of them! Good Luck
Yes, the salesman did try to BS what the fee was. He tried to say it was for other upgrades and stuff, which I knew was BS.
In reality the salesman probably didn't know what the fee was so he just made something up. All you have to do is call their bluff and they will run away with their tail between their legs to go get the sales manager!
Also if you bring them price quotes from cars.com, autobytel.com, carsdirect.com and other sites they will usually come down on the price. Also look up the trucks value on kbb.com and print that out to show them. Then they know you have done your homework and you can't be ripped off!