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now I got frustrated because it is almost impossible to find a right car with everything we want (DSTC,GPS,Xonen headlamp) without sport suspension in a right price in our local dealers' lot. we would love to go with OSD but can't find a trusted people for house sitting our puppy. she is one and a half years old, very attached to us. now I am thinking to go with a base car then sell it maybe a couple of years.Also tired for checking out every dealer's inventory, negotiating with those lame actors(dealers). what a pain! have thought it would be a cheerful experience to getting a new car:(
The premium package offer is available only through OSD. You can find more information at
http://www.volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas/AddedIncentive- s/PremiumPackageOffer.htm
(You'll need to fix that URL - grab the whole thing, and remove the hyphen.)
Call OSD if you need more info.
Anyone shopped this vehicle in Virginia?
Also, to sweeten the pie, take advantage of the winter travel offer - you and your husband can have the great vacation in Barcelona or London for just $495, which is less than the destination fee here.
I do not know Barcelona, though my older daughter, who is studying in Spain this semester, says it is beautiful; but I have stayed in Jury's Kensington hotel in London - great hotel in a great part of the most wonderful capital of the world.
Find a paid pet-sitting service and enjoy your new purchase.
http://www.volvocars.us/
FinancialServices/Overseas/AddedIncentives/WinterTravelOffer.htm
Paste both lines into the addres line of the browser
Is there anything fishing? still hardly believe there are only 7 pre-built cars in sweden.
Those are US specs cars sitting in Sweden available for Euro Delivery only. It's not all the S40's in Europe.
anybody know how long will it take us driving from sweden to Italy?
Check out www.viamichelin.com - Europe's version of Mapquest.
Thank you.
How good a deal is this, or am I doing myself a disservice by not trying to negotiate a better price.
Thanks,
Paul
I was wondering how much I should pay for
2005 s402.4i manual
with climate pack. They are asking 22595.00
is it a good price?
on the other hand, they have
pre-owned 2004 s402.4i auto
prem package with 19 K miles and asking price is
20995.00
any comment?
Have a great day
Ali~
I am writing to let you know about my experience purchasing a used 2003 Volvo C70 from Herb Gordon Volvo.
I was introduced to the dealership through a purchase attempt through e-Bay on which I lost out to a higher bidder. However, I was visiting the Silver Spring (MD) area over Thanksgiving, so I stopped by to talk to the Sales Manager who introduced me to a salesperson who would be my primary contact. The salesperson showed me the 2003 model that was on the lot, but at the time I had my heart set on a used 2004 and was willing to wait.
Over the next several weeks I received a couple of calls from the salesperson trying to interest me in the 2003 model, and she quoted me a price that I thought was a little high. I counter-offered, but my offer wasn't accepted. I was prepared to wait for what I wanted.
On December 28, she called to tell me that they would accept my offer of $29,995 plus a $99 "Dealer Processing Fee", plus a shipping charge of $500, for a total of $30,594. She faxed me a form identifying the car, I gave her my credit card number for a $2,500 deposit, and FedEx'd a check that afternoon for the remaining $28,094. The following day, I learned that the figure quoted did not include sales tax, so that day (12/29) I FedEx'd a check for $2,290.58.
Over the course of the day or two, forms were sent back and forth via overnight mail and the transaction was consummated. On Wednesday, December 30 I was told that the car might be picked up by the trucking company as early as Friday and could, therefore, be here by approx. Wednesday, January 5.
Over the next several days, I called repeatedly to ask if it had been picked up and was told that the trucking company hadn't yet arrived. Finally, on Friday, January 7 (a full week later) it was picked up, and I was told I could expect it by the following Wednesday. Naturally, I was a little annoyed by the delay, but I remained calm and accepted the inconvenience. When the car didn't arrive by Friday, I called (again, I had to make the calls) and, rather than Herb Gordon personnel following up on my car, I was given the name and phone number of the trucking company with a suggestion that I call.
I called the trucking company and, after a few attempts, spoke to the owner. He accepted responsibility for the delay in picking the car up due to some scheduling issues for which I, again, remained calm. However, he went on to state that his driver stopped in East Tennessee where he lives and tried to describe some confusion about having another of his drivers pick it up there as he came in from North Carolina. I was clearly confused and tried to convey my interest in getting my car delivered promptly.
As I learned later, this driver pulled into a dealership in Alcoa, TN and simply handed off the keys and said he was instructed to leave the car there for later pickup. An employee at that dealership told my wife that he didn't know anything about a drop-off and, when he consequently refused to sign any paperwork accepting the car, the trucker simply handed him the keys anyway. At this point, NO ONE was responsible for my car.
On January 19th – 3 weeks later – still unproductively trying to get some help from Herb Gordon personnel, I received a call from a trucker who, passing through Alcoa on his way to Nashville with a truckload of cars, noticed a bulletin that a car needed to be dropped in Nashville, and he agreed to pick it up and deliver it. Finally, on January 20th, I received my car.
During these 3 weeks, no progress was made in getting my car delivered unless I got on the phone and asked for a status update or for someone to take some action. The ONLY calls I received from Herb Gordon personnel, with the exception of one call from (an assistant sales manager) in response to my call, were from (my salesperson) telling me how sorry she was. Her helpless calls of sympathy were not in the least reassuring, nor did they accomplish anything toward getting me my car. They simply added to my frustration.
Now that my car has been delivered, I've been attempting to speak with (the General Manager)about some compensation for the $500 delivery charge for which I received totally unacceptable service. (The General Manager's) only response was that a) he didn't make anything on the car and b) he'll talk to the trucking company about giving me back a portion of my fee. He promised to get back to me. That was nearly two weeks ago. I have called him repeatedly in the interim, but he never seems to be there and certainly has not returned any of the voicemail messages I left for him.
I reminded him that I didn't hire the trucking company – he did. I paid Herb Gordon Volvo to have my car delivered. And whether (the General Manager) made anything on the sale of the car or not is totally irrelevant – if he didn't want to sell it at that price, he shouldn't have. Throughout this entire episode, despite my extreme displeasure with the lack of responsiveness on the part of Herb Gordon personnel, I have remained calm and tried not to overreact.
At this point, I have no choice but to take some action. I can see no recourse for recovery of my delivery fee but to dispute $500 of the $2,500 deposit I put down on my credit card. Given the amount of unilateral effort I have had to put into this transaction, and Herb Gordon Volvo's total lack of effort, professionalism, and concern, nothing less than a full refund of the delivery charge will be satisfactory.
This C70 was to be my "fun" car and, as I said when I was at the dealership, it was my intention to buy another car to replace my 1999 S-80 T6 so that I would still have a 5-seater in which I could carry my family. (My original contact person's) cooperative attitude at the time prompted me to think (and suggest) that I would buy that car through Herb Gordon Volvo as well. Obviously, that isn't going to happen now. This has been the most egregious display of incompetence in my recent memory.
It is now 5:00 pm on Wednesday, February 9. By this time tomorrow, I will have contacted VISA to dispute my deposit unless I have reached some satisfactory resolution before then.
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(The reply follows)
mr. broder, the trucking company has refused to refund any of the shipping charge.i am sorry about the delay , however there will be no refund for the shipping. we stand behind our vehicles 100 percent, but i cant pay for situations beyond my control. you got a great car at a great value.if there is anything you need regarding the vehicle ,we will be here for you.
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Sorry for the length of the post. I suggest you avoid this dealership.
I would describe my Volvo sales experience as very leisurely - no pressure on the part of the salesman. He certainly didn't expect or try to sell me a car in 45 minutes. Judging from the reports of other buyers, this is not unusual for Volvo dealers.
Keep in mind that car buying is about negotiation. Make it clear from the start that you have done your homework and are a knowledgeable buyer. Let the salesperson know that you are fully aware of the incentives and the value of your trade-in. This prevents most of the B.S.
Be explicit about the models and options that interest you. I would have told the salesman up front to bring out a car with the options I wanted for the test drive. It's not clear to me that you said anything even after the guy brought out the basic S40.
By the way, was "air pressure acceleration" a reference to turbos? If so, please note that the model you tested, the 2.4i, does not have a turbo.
Best of luck with the TSX.
Negotiating with the salesperson is a total waist of you mental energy. They are neither authorized to accept the bottom line offers nor have any incentives to go bellow the point of maximizing their commissions.
Sales managers have somewhat broader goals in mind.
Second,
Do not even mention your trade, until you lock an acceptable price for a new car. By mentioning your trade up-front you open a door for the "double-trading", which is at least twice as difficult. Remember, nobody wants to sell your old car, unless it is some rare collectible. In most cases you will be better off by
a. driving your old car till it dies on you
b. giving it away to your kids or needy relatives
c. selling it privately
To be asked directly, I answer politely that I have not decided yet whether I am trading my car or not. It is not late to get back to the trade-in issue at the end. You are not going to get any different price for it doing it afterwards.
Rather than that - calhon is right on money.
What I would do next in your situation is the following:
- I will e-mail to both dealers with an offer to buy an auto 2.4i Premium+Convenience, specifying a color and other standard options (so there would not be any confusions on what do you want exactly) for $23,495.00 and see what they say.
- If they accept - ask for the exact VIN and arrange for a pick-up appointment with a specific person for a specific time.
- if they will come up with the acceptable counter-offer (let say less than $24,000.00 with all the options), do the same. Always be very specific - do not leave any room for a "confusion".
If the counter offer will not satisfy you, I can suggest two more options:
1. Go overseas - plan you next vacation to pick your car up in Europe - you can get auto 2.4i with the Select package for $24,935. I know, it is about a grand more than it will be here, but you will spare yourself from the hassles, get 2 round trip tickets to Europe for free, and have a best time of your life with your significant other.
2. Go and get Acura.
Why would you not then contact the salesperson who had arranged that test drive? Rather than wandering the lot and waiting to see who came out to sell you a car.
"Sales guy laughed then lied and said nothing available and said no end of month dealing."
I would probably just leave at that point.
I guess I have a different attitude, I would go to buy a car not to be sold one. Seems kind of silly to base your choice of car on the salesman.
I think you have gotten some good advice... Basically let them know that you have done your research and contact dealers by email rather than just showing up on the lot. But if you want to test drive different models or S40s with different engines and/or options first you should indicate that in your email and maybe contact them again via email when you have decided what you want to buy.
This way, you always have a pleasant experience with the salesperson, let him BS you a bit about the car and feel good about himself.
And when you ready, you bring your offer and negotiate up from your bottom line (never down from the dealer's counter offer).
Just need a little advice so I can move on.
Thanks.
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2005 Silver T5 AWD Manual
Select package
Climate package
Including destination charge and Volvo rebate: $28319 + Tax & licensing.
The $1850 Volvo rebate seemed to be still in effect - just needed to ask.
the car looks great and look forward to driving it.
One person posted a deal that was basically $4k off MSRP, so I figured it was worth a shot since I was told after the test drive that our dealership wanted to move over thirty S40's off the lot, and his sales mgr told him price would not be an issue if I wanted to buy. I realize, that may be sweetening the pot a bit much, but I figured what the heck and made an offer around $25,000 (about $4000 off MSRP).
However, the sales mgr would only go with invoice (about $28,000), and said no incentives were available. Edmunds says there's a $1500 manuf to dealer incentive. I told him I could wait for a better deal, and he suggested I go OSD because prices don't drop when the '06's come in. What's that all about?
The silver automatic 2.4i they had on the lot was equipped with: the geartronic trans and Select pkg (moonroof, power seat, premium sound, audio controls on steering wheel); w/upgrade to leather seats, 6 CD changer, and child boosters. MSRP was $29,280.
I think if now is a motivated time to sell, negotiating below invoice isn't too unheard of. Am I wrong?
I guess I will have to find another dealer and make my pitch for $25k to them instead, although Sweden doesn't sound like a hardship.
- separate the volvo discount from the dealer price.
- the 2005 pricing went up $500 sometime in Feb (?) but i pointed out the car i wanted was in their lot for over 3 months so i didn't want to pay the extra $500.
- i offered them the x-plan price which is essentially 2% above invoice. this is where they make their money + any holdback.
- the volvo jan incentive was $1850. i wanted the same incentive in march. i had no idea what the march incentive was :-)
somehow the math worked for them. i heard also through the negotiation it was a very slow feb so there was motivation to get this deal done.
i am sure if you looked at other dealers you will find someone ready to sell at your price. holding inventory is something they want to avoid.
The S40 2.4i has the premium pkg, climate, and rear spoiler in silver metallic with black leather. It has everything I want except the integrated booster seats and the offer is $26,780.
My wife and I used this board to help get a good price on her new car(RX330) and some friends wanted us to help with theirs.We are in NH but ended up going to Watertown for my wifes car after emailing several dealers for best deals.It works !
She is wants a red S40 with select and climate package and was was wondering what kinda of lease deal folks are getting before I start the emailing.
Many thanks
Dave
The price, confirmed in an email, was just under $23,000 for 2.4i with automatic, DTSC, and metallic paint. This was based on the current $1500 cash to dealer incentive here and price would go up or down depending on incentives at delivery (we would have needed to order the car).
This pricing was offered right up front, in response to an email from me.
Has price form dealer she went to:
Here is the price I got from the dealer I visited in Concord:
Manufacturer's Suggested Price: $24,255
Climate Package (MC550): $625
Select Package (MC536): $1850
FWD; RED
Standard transmission (5-spd)
TOTAL: $26,730
and wanted to see what others have found.
Jeff, they where offering -250 under invoice but they keep the $1500 incentive? correct?
Many thanks
2005 T5 - Manual
Silver Metallic
Climate Package
Audio Package
Dynamic Trim Package
Moonroof
T-tec interior
So far I'm at 28,800 after the incentive, plus destination and a $450 advertising fee. How negotiable is this fee? Do most end up paying it? If I can't get out of it, what is the invoice cost of some of the other accessories that I could possible get 'thrown in' to make up for it? I'm thinking of things like the sunglass holder, luggage compartment mat, rubber floor mats. However I don't see prices for those things any where.
Any advice on how to proceed, or am I sitting ok?
Thanks...Zone
For example an S40 will all the options you want is MSRP at $30K with incentives of $1000 and you play all your cards right then you can get it for 30,000 - 3000 - 1000 = 26000
This formula is not absolute but if you can get the price to within 3% of this magic number then you've got a great deal. So from the example above you should be able buy a car with MSRP of $30,000 between $26,000 - $26,780 (Remember this number exclude Tax & fees, and final selling price include finance charges which the dealership can makes money and the finance guy will try to sell you other stuffs) Don't go home happy if you got the car for $26,500 + Fees and got hit with a 9.9% rate. Do your homework to know the best rate you can get with your credit, negotiate the best rate from the dealership or get your own loan.
I know Volvo dealerships and salesmans will hate me for posting this but I hope this will help consumers and readers of the board
We are picking up our S40 2.4i, automatic in silver, with premium pkg & climate pkg with rear spoiler tomorrow and the final negotiations brought the price to $26,650. We'll do our own financing. I also really liked the email system of shopping dealerships. The third dealership, in Huntsville, AL, wasn't put off when I was upfront about the research I did and the price I was willing to pay. They were very pleasant to deal with are selling us a Volvo at $3k off MSRP.
I came very close to buying a Mazda and now I'm so glad I waited and found a Volvo. I've got kids nearing the driving age, and I will rest easier knowing they are in a Volvo.
FYI: The dealership was also willing to drive the car to us (2 hrs away), at no charge, but we decided a little road trip would be fun. Maybe our next Volvo we can experience the fun of OSD.