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backy, "2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift" #390, 28 Jul 2007 12:46 pm
Anyone know if Toyota is looking to change the availability of these safety features on the Yaris for 2008? Maybe even make side airbags standard, as they are on almost every other car?
So when I go to configure a vehicle on toyota.com and it tells me what packages are available in my area, and I don't see options like side airbags and ABS available in most trim lines, I think back to my Prius experience and figure I don't want any part of that, thank you.
Go to the bottom and you will see the demand level as well as the breakdown of who is buying these cars. You can check other cars too. You will find the Fit, Versa, and Yaris are in high demand. The rest, not so much.
Mechanical Quality: Yaris, 3.5; Accent, 4.5
Overall Quality, Design: Yaris, 2.5; Accent, 3.5
Overall Performance and Design: Yaris, 3; Accent, 2
Green Efficiency: Both are 5
Also, the Accent was in the top 3 of JD Power's Initial Quality rankings for subcompacts. The Fit was 2nd; the Accent's cousin the Rio was 1st. The Yaris? Didn't make it to the top 3 in initial quality, but tied with the Fit in the 2007 APEAL survey.
Maybe a car that tops Yaris in initial quality, mechanical quality, and overall quality and design deserves a close look?
Overall Quality - Design: This score is based on problems where controls or features may work as designed, but are difficult to use or understand (i.e., overly complicated controls/features that are difficult to operate due to poor location).
Maybe I am weird, but I think both of these categories are relevant to someone looking at a new car. If a car breaks down or malfunctions in the first 90 days of ownership, that is not a good sign for trouble-free long-term ownership. And if controls and other features are difficult to understand or use, that also is something useful to know.
I think a well-done survey of thousands of car buyers is more useful than one person telling me that his or her car is great, or not.
It's hard though to keep this discussion on the Yaris when people keep turning it to a comparison of other cars, like the Fit, Versa, Accent etc. :surprise:
I have learned oodles and skiboodles here and look forward to learning much more ahead.
I have also seen a distinct anti-Korean car bashing attitude that apparently those testing the cars don't buy in to anymore. Perhaps Honda and Toyota aren't handing out greenbacks any more to persuade their writing "trends".
And I have read many an unhappy comment from both Honda and Toyota vehicle owners over failed parts and components and failed Warranty coverage. It happens with all automakers.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
30 mpg (combined city/highway) is the MINIMUM that's acceptable these days. Anything below that simply falls off the radar.
I like the Accent's styling (but not quite as much as the Yaris hatch); however, when I looked at one on a lot, the interior looked/felt VERY cheap/flimsy.
backy, "2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift" #384, 26 Jul 2007 6:50 pm
I strongly considered both a 2007 Toyota Yaris sedan and a 2006 Scion xA as closely as a year and a half ago. I think backy does his research thoroughly and picks the car that is just right for him. Which is exactly what I do, too.
I like that with his posts he does his research and thoroughly(like a good trial lawyer might)lays out the pros and cons of the case. Then he states his decision on that matter and always lets the reader decide.
All out attacks with weapons are a dumb way to decide which car to buy. It's better to keep an open mind and decipher the facts and go from there.
But we are not Toyota/Scion haters. I know backy will come on here and explain his position but I wouldn't be that brash after test driving them both and almost buying one of them.
Look, the Yaris is a really good car and offers the buyer a lot. That's why this thread remains on my peruse-list. It's worth reading about.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
There is a 5 year rating also, but I haven't seen any auto manufacturer hyping it.
100K miles is too long since most people get rid of their cars long before then. There probably wouldn't be enough people who would keep accurate records of problems and participate in the survey over so many miles.
If someone has as a non-negotiable buying criterion, "I need a small car that has proven long-term reliability at least as good as Toyota's", they are pretty much limited today to Toyota or Honda. If they can live with dependability that is a few defects-per-100-cars lower than Toyota's, then there are other options.
My perspective on reliability is that several manufacturers have reached a point where their cars are generally very reliable, within a few percentage points of each other. It's not as if one manufacturer or car is five times or three times or even twice as reliable, on average, than other manufacturers or cars. It's percentage-points difference. So for me, reliability is not the primary criterion; instead, there are more important criteria, like how the car drives, how it stops, how it sits, how safe it is, how comforatable and quiet it is, how economical it is, how nice it looks, etc.
Glad you're OK, man.
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Thanks
NO problems. None.
0-60: Yaris sedan(9.5 sec), Fit(11 sec), Accent(12 sec)
MPG : Yaris(36), Fit(33), Accent(26)
http://www.cars.com/go/video/motorweek/videoPopup.jsp?makeid=47&year=2007&modeli- d=8242&location=MW_L_2007_Toyota_Yaris.flv
http://www.cars.com/go/video/motorweek/videoPopup.jsp?makeid=18&year=2007&modeli- d=8235&location=MW_L_2007_Honda_Fit.flv
http://www.cars.com/go/video/motorweek/videoPopup.jsp?makeid=19&year=2006&modeli- d=218&location=MW_L_2006_Hyundai_Accent.flv
42.47 mpg
no, im am not a hypermiler, but drive somewhat conservatively with my eye on mileage. overall, my efforts at great mileage are fairly minimal. for its size, the yaris gives a pretty smooth ride and is quiet (as sub compact hatchbacks go).
One thing the video was good at was showing people sitting in the car, adjusting the seats etc., and also moving down the track around the cones and in braking tests. That's something you don't get in text reviews.
I noticed they tested a S sedan, fully loaded with AT, side bags/curtains, and ABS. It would have been interesting for them to contrast with a lightly-optioned LB, with stick and standard brakes.
One thing I noticed is that they hit several of the things I don't particularly like about the Yaris. So now I don't feel like I was being unduly harsh in my opinion.
http://media.drive.com.au/?rid=24008