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The bars are indeed stationary, but our Thule Nomad nylon carrier fit inbetween them perfectly, installed easily, fit a ton of camping gear, then packed up nicely into a tidy bag when not in use. Also researched the hard shell type carriers, which would also mount easily on Tribeca's crossbars, but opted for the "bag" due to storage issues when not in use. And cost.
The tow hitch mounted bike rack worked wonderfully, even when weighted with a large "jogging stroller" and a TREK. The mount remained solid, even after 2000+ miles, and released easily to the ground to gain access to hatch. Did extend the length of the Tribeca significantly. Yakima "Bighorn," holds up to 4 bikes.
Have decided to add a rear bumber guard and splash guards. Any pricing info on these anyone can share? With cars101 offline I need the invoice pricing on these items, and wonder if anyone is having any luck negotiating for accessories. Thanks.
You can also use the seat belt.... But that is annoying since that belt has to come all the way from the right rear.
Thats' why S. doesn't recommend it.
I know the middle is properly the safest spot. I have a 2 year old. I wouldn't want to put her in the middle because it is a pain to carry a 35 lb toddler into the seat and buckle her up. Side is so much easier.
With gas shot up like a dollar or more overnight everywhere, I don't know if I will be driving it much though. Back to my 2000 Passat, with 33 MPG.
-Charles
-juice
Your fix on silencing the seat belt chime worked like a charm.
You next challenge, should you accept it, is to get the passenger airbag on/off light to go out after the car is in gear.
Now that's progress!
-juice
The purpose of the switch is keep children from operating the windows for safety reasons. However SOA makes things difficult for the driver. When you set the lock the driver can not operate those windows either. Stupid stupid stupid!
If you have 3 rambuncious kids in the car & the driver wants to adjust one or more passenger windows he is at the mercy of the kids fiddling with the window switches when he turns the lock off.
Most properly designed cars allows the passenger windows to work from the drivers panel when the lock is activated.
What SOA and Nissan & Infiniti do is simply silly and stupid. From what I have seen it appears to be a Japanese way of doing it. I think most US & Euro brands do it correctly, with the drivers panel usable when the lock is set.
To be honest, not even tolls any more, with auto toll pay devices. I hardly ever even use the windows.
-juice
If the seat is empty, who even cares?
-juice
Another silly Japanese feature or lack there of is the fact that most Japanese brands do not have auto door locks when you put the car in gear.
When I asked an Infinti rep why my 60K Q45 did not do it - he explained the Japanese mind thinks their way is safer. They rationalize that if you are in a serious accident and are unconscious - people could not open the doors to get you out.
Since they live in a non violent society they do not see the need to protect us from say a car jacker - since that doesn't happen there.
My response was fine - how about a few extra lines of code that lets the driver select the mode "Violent Western Society Mode" or Peace Loving Japanese Mode"
No extra wires or switches needed for the door locks or window switches. Just good common sense.
I know you are a great Subaru supporter Juice but it seems that you often make rationalizations to excuse short sighted design flaws that SOA makes. All we are doing is offering options that will make for a better car & not cost SOA a penny to implement.
They may want to go more upscale - but it appears they should be talking to up-scale owners and recruit product planners that know the up-scale market better.
Tribeca sales August = 2,022
Bob
Hey...I just ordered my new B9 but no-one offered a pin stripe and I can't find it mentioned anywhere in the lit. I think that would look really cool! Is this a factory option? Dealer?
Oh, I ordered a mahogany red 5 Seat LTD with Navigation and the factory accepted my order! Said I'd get the first one off the line in about 6 weeks. No pricing yet so I struck a deal that I'd get it for $600 over invoice. We'll see what happens....
Did you say you got nav on a 5 Pass?? That would be the first that I have heard of that. Nav has only been available on the 7 pass.
Craig
Is this a time warp?? They have been coming off the line since about May (Subaru has sold at least 6000 already), and you can get exact pricing details on the Subaru website, with invoice pricing from Edmunds.
Craig
Let us know when you get it!
Craig
plus option to unlock all doors or just the driver door when you first click the key fob.
Juice stated that why bother having dual control if it could be turned off.
I tried to explain that there a legitmate reasons to have the ability for the HVAC to be set to single as well as dual mode.
Saying an off switch is not necessary for the dual control AC could be extended to say why have a switch for the headlights just let them come on when you start the car.
Also the calibration of the temp setting are why off the mark. In my B9 setting the temp to 74 you are freezing. It may control the temp but what the temp in car is and what the display setting is - seem to have no correlation.
As I stated in an earlier post, this is another area where SOA goofed - doing a better would not have cost a cent but may cost them sales.
I just don't like asking for things I don't use/want, because that jacks up the cost of production and most likely the price along with it.
So yeah, I have peculiar tastes. I like heated cloth, but a moonroof. Manual tranny, but the H6 engine so I can use regular. No power seats for me, they're slow. Single A/C did a good enough job cooling the interior. I guess I look for ways to contain costs so this doesn't become a $40k SUV I'll never afford.
-juice
Timing was bad, with sky rocketing gas prices it will be tough to boost those sales even if they did lower prices right now. They may have to wait until gas prices drop before sales pick up any further.
Auto-locking - I find that annoying too. We've had loaner cars with that feature. You arrive at the destination, reach for the handle, and oops, it's locked. Annoying when you're driving just a mile or so to the pool or the grocery store.
Any how, keep in mind this is v1.0. Subaru tends to slowly add content without raising prices too much. I think a backup camera should come first, at least with NAV. 2nd probably power up/down windows. 3rd a telescoping wheel. Those are things I'm hearing often enough that most people would want it.
-juice
One of the daily annoyances in my OB XT is having to reach over and turn two knobs when I want to set the temperature while alone in the car. When I saw Acura's system (on a $27K car no less) I was glad somebody gets it right!
Craig
I didn't realize they worked that way.
-juice
An example - Auto Down drivers window on the B9 - there are ways to do that on all the windows without changing the switches - just the software. Auto up however would probably add about a dollar a window because they would have to add a sensor.
Hell they can adjust HP and torque through software within certain limits.
To the person that said he did not like the auto locking doors because when you park you must unlock the doors. Valid point. Add a programmable feature to allow the doors to automatically unlock when the speed is Zero or the Tranny is in PARK.
These things are no brainers - if you employ sharp product planners.
We had an old Mustang when I was high school, those doors would unlock when you pulled the door handle. But I'm not sure that's entirely safe.
-juice
You can SELECT what you want if you want that mode or the dumb mode of no autolocking or unlocking (like the B9 is)... but you have the OPTION to pick what you want. I like the auto lock and unlock when I open the doors. I forget that I locked the doors and get out to open the rear hatch and have to hit the unlock button.
speaking of unlock, I wish the keyfob was more quick to respond to the second push to unlock ALL doors. I hit it twice quickly and it doesn't unlock all doors. I have to hit it once then wait a second then hit it again for the doors to all unlock.
Not to mention the Lexus keeps a very steady comfortable temperarture inside, whether it's 0 or 100 outside.
I can't wait to see the flood of complaints about Tibeca's climate control when the colder temperatures are here.
The heat/air controls for our is front and back (not dual zone in front seat). They can be turned off, set to be controlled in front, or controlled in the rear.
Another nice feature is with the radio. First it stays on when you shut the car off until you open a door (same goes for power windows). The volume also adjusts with speed/noise. The radio slightly turns up the volume when you accel to interstate speeds and quiets down as you pull off to a stop light. (the amount is adjustable) This probably isn't a real big issue on really quiet SUVs, but I'd like to have it on my outback which is fairly quiet.
Window controls on the chevy also allow the drive to control all windows even while locked. I hate the subie on this. soon as I un-lock the windows to put the passanger side down, kids have the back ones going up and down.
The Chevy malibu/classic that I recently rented had the window lock feature and left the power to accesories until I open the door. The auto locking doors were different in that they locked when putting into gear, but didn't unlock. All you need to do is open the door and it unlocks, so your never locked in. (unless child locks are on)
--jay
What do you call that, residual power?
-juice
--jay
Hopefully you won't miss it.
5 pass w/NAV is a smart idea, gets the price down significantly.
-juice
Retained Power.
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/jalopnik-reviews/jalopnik-reviews-2006-subaru-b9-tribeca-limi- ted-part-1-117708.php
Bob