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Spoilers Spoil Good Design - Agree or Disagree?
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Do-it-yourselfers could always use a piece of broomstick to prop the lid open. :P
james
Indeed, the dealer also installed upgraded springs/struts along with the spoiler.. the spoiler was fairly heavy...
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I wonder if the spoiler is a delete item. I understand it's not on the Cobalt SS, but one of the '06 Impalas pictured in the report didn't have the spoiler, suggesting that it may be deletable.
I think the new Impala looks better than either the Accord or Camry.
The spoiler doesn't bother me though. I can take it or leave it, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Y'know, if it weren't for the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger being out, I would actually consider an Impala for my next car!
" My only criticism is that the car looks more generic, somehow... From the rear it just has those universal generic taillights..." The generic thing could have easily been solved, from the back view, at least, by retaining Chevy's signature round tail lights. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought back the round tail lights in the next redesign, if not sooner.
I tend to agree with them-they did a fine job with it and kept the wonderful orange color that the concept car carried so well. I prefer the looks of the concept better but I like the actual production model almost as much.
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Certainly that's not the case with Porsche, Mitsu Evo, Subaru WRX-STi, and other hyper-performance cars. Call the spoilers ugly if you want, but they're there to help keep those cars planted on the road at high speeds.
Bob
I guess some of us forget what the true reason for spoilers is because we don't wanna envision driving being a "race" to get somewhere before somebody else. But that could be a horse of another generation and flavor, worthy of another topic to discuss, eh?
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Given the large fake hood scoop and the smaller but still fake side scoops (actually a heritage feature...many of the classic Mustangs from back in the day sported the fake stuff as well), the spoiler seems to fit in nicely with the general retro-themed-over-the-top-pony-car look that Ford was going for at the time. Seems "balanced" to me.
The current Mustang looks much better w/o the spoiler, since it doesn't have any of the other stuff on it (hood and sides are clean).
Re a much earlier comment by Shifty, I love those Chapparal cars. I heard that at CanAm dinners, events and such, they would sometimes have one displayed in the building, but sucked to the roof. :shades:
I agree with you totally. I bought a 94 Formula with the same engine as the TA because I didn't like the big spoiler. My current car is an Infiniti G35 coupe . I was able to see the cars on the lot side-by-side and the spoiler really "spoiled" the lines of the car. It looked like someone had left an ironing-board on the truck lid.
The lines are very elegant without the spoiler and it is relly funny seeing some "grocery-getters" as someone earlier referred to them with spoilers.
They don't really produce downforce; they reduce lift by creating turbulence. Sometimes reducing lift is worth the extra drag - like if you're taking a sharp turn at 80mph.
Turning at high speeds is a good reason to give a FWD car a wing or spoiler - it's only silly if you're drag racing. Since almost everyone mocks downforce over non-drive-wheels, I have to assume that they think drag racing is everything.
But having the rear wheels slide out from under you during a turn is A Bad Thing (tm). It's why the Audi TT now has a spoiler. That car, while it's available as FWD or AWD, is nose heavy like any FWD car. With less weight over the rear wheels, it's even MORE important to reduce lift or add downforce over the rear wheels. I think one of the old Maxima models was also unstable at high speeds without a spoiler.
Rocky
The 95-99 Mitsu Eclipse's need spoilers too look good.
People I am not talking about a huge spoiler just a little one to enhance the cars exterior design.
I have an 02 Acura CL. I don;t think it would help enhance the cars design too much myself.
I agree the 02-06 Alt looks good without a spolier.
I had seen a black Altima(93-97)with a spoiler back in 1997-1998. It looked good. It wasn't a huge spoiler it was just a little one.
What is your opinions on this picture;
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Still not wild about them; sometimes I load canoes by putting one end on the rear rack and lifting the other end off the ground and slide it forward, and I'd clunk the spoiler all the time with that setup.
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And I agree with you on the TT, but there were a lot of high speed crashes due to poor areodynamics before they put the little spoiler on it.
-mike
Kinda like bucket seats or white-faced gauges...
-mike
I love how now even 4cyl cars need to have dual exhaust outlets and how muffler tips on many cars are routinely twice as big as the actual exhaust pipe.
They are almost an automatic no go for me. There a few - very few - cars that look right with them.
But that's not the question is it. As far as spoilers destroying the design of the car it depends on the car. Some minivans have spoilers to deflect air across the rear window to keep it clean. I think that works.
Some cars do look better with a modest spoiler. The latest Mitsu Eclipse has a subdued spoiler that I think looks nice. However for 2008 they have an "SE" option that carries a huge wing that looks like they pulled it off an Evo. This makes the car look like a joke and spoils what I think is a pretty nice design.
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Talk about ruining a nice German car..
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Some people will say sedans should never have a spoiler on them. But if a Mustang has a spoiler on it, that's completely acceptable, and considered normal. My niece has a Mustang convertible with a V6 engine. My V6 Accord can run circles around that car. I consider my Accord more sporty (as far as performance) than her Mustang. Yet a spoiler on my car is wrong. I don't get it. I think it looks better with the spoiler.