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Millenium Infiniti quoted me $2200 up front and $350/month for the 12 month, with 12K miles. Liked the experience there much better.
I had to push them a but, but they had the fx i wanted in stock and we made the deal
3100 out of pocket, includes all fees, taxes, and first month. 255 a month, 12k miles. Handsfree and Touring.
I think most reasonable dealers, once you push them, should get down to 265 a month with the same out of pocket.
Does this apply to leases as well when negotiating a deal?
Does anyone know?
If so, then the deal should be much sweeter.
Thanks.
The numbers I've been getting are all over the place...
MSRP $41,510
Drive-home price? $38,750
If anyone's looking for a near-new G, better go check mine out there! Doubt it'll last long...
Lakeshore-slate Blue, 15,000 miles, Premium Pkg, Stone leather interior.
I doubt you paid full MSRP.. They couldn't get the price down to that amount, if that was the case.
$300/mo. with zero down? Not possible..
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So, theoretically, if you take your $3000 down payment and spread it over 12 months you are adding $250 per month to your $300 month payment and would be at $550 ... (not sure if your $300/mo payment includes tax - I hope it does!) ... so, you'd be at at $550 a month on a vehicle without tech and handsfree package .. where as I was going to be at $442/mo on a vehicle whose MSRP was around $6K more ...
Give me a little more detail, maybe it wasn't THAT bad ... was it at least an FX35 AWD ? But, you HAVE to negotiate the price -- try to be at invoice ! And you must know your facts going in - money factor, residual, etc ... run all your numbers BEFORE you go in !!!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
FX35, touring package, hands free, List for $40,800.00, Total Cap Cost of $39,868.29, Residual 55% for $22,440.00 and a rate of 1.5, 39 month lease for $499/mo with $2,000.00 down; total drive off for the $2,000.00 only.
Any feedback will be appreciated, as I'm not sure how the math works.
Since I don't know what's going into your Cap Cost(39868), and what the $2000 down is going towards (cap reduction, or registration/first payment?), I'm not really sure what you agreed to on the actual price of the car... The Cap Cost you stated probably includes Acquisition Fee of $550 and some amount for the dealer's doc fees. I would guess this puts your car's agreed price at around 39,200? If so.. you could definitely get a lower price than that for the car/options you mentioned. The invoice price on your car is around $37,500. Many on this board, including me have gotten a drive home price at/near invoice.
A little more info would help to really know if youre getting the best deal you could.
P.S. I'm LOVING my new FX! What color are you getting??
2006 FX 35 AWD with touring, hands free, and sports package - MSRP $44,060.
$379.26/month (this includes NJ tax - 7% plus .4% on cars > $40k?)
I paid $2000 at inception which is broken down by 1st month, bank fees, docs, DMV charges, and cap cost.
I think this was a pretty good deal - only catch was that you had to take what dealership had in inventory and you had to take delivery by the end of the month...
Looks like you got the car for invoice or a tad above. You probably meant to say cap cost 'reduction' as part of your $2000 ... and it was probably around $700 or so, figuring 380 (1st month) + 550 (bank fee) + 300 (doc/dmv, tire tax, etc) - breaking that $700 out over 12 months would be another $58 per month added to your monthly payment ...
I remember when I leased a car in nj, it was cool -- back in '03 -- only 6% tax .. and I don't know what that .4% tax is you are talking about ? luxury tax ??
Also, someone told me that NJ changed the way they tax leases and take the WHOLE car into account - was that the case for you ???
No security deposit at all - I have excellent credit. Lease was done through Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp.
When I have all specifics, I will post them but I think that the $2000 is broken out as follows:
550 - bank
269 - docs
155 - dmv
379 - 1st payment
0 - security
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1353
???? - tax
???? - cap cost
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2000
I think I paid tax upfront as part of the $2000 because the deal was for 349/mo with 500 cap cost on the same car minus the sports package. since they didn't this model with the color I wanted in stock, he said the sports pakcage was an extra 20/mo.
I ran my deal by another Infiniti dealer in town and according to him the sell price was about $300 over invoice of $37528.00
For the same $2000 I was putting down at $250.00 over invoice, he quoted me $488/mo on 39 month, 12k miles and $427/mo on a 12 month lease.
Still not sure if it's a good deal, based on some of the figures I see from the NJ/NY area on this board.
Here is a way you can figure out if their math is right/deal is good:
Take the price of the car $37528, add Acq Fee of $550 and whatever the dealer's doc fees are (usually around $100).. That sum is generally your Gross Capitalized Cost (GCC).
If you're rolling your excise tax/registration fees into the lease, add that into the GCC as well. (I don't know NJ/NY taxes - but lets assume its 1300) For my examples here, I get $39478 as GCC.
Whatever part of the money you're putting down is "Cap Cost Reduction, subtract that from your GCC to get "Adjusted Cap Cost". Let's say $1500 of your $2000 is CCR (the other part will cover your first month's payment). So your Adjusted Cap Cost is $37,978.
Now..the Residual (assuming you do 39 mos) is 55% of the MSRP of your vehicle. $40,800 x 55% = 22,440
Your "Depreciation" = (Adjusted Cap Cost - Residual)
For this example, Depr = $15,538
Keep following me...
Next is "Rent Charge". Its like the "finance charge" if you were buying. Rent Charge = (Adjusted Cap Cost PLUS Residual)x the Money Factor of .0015 x # of months in the lease of 39.
RC = 3,534.45
("Depreciation" + "Rent Charge") / # of months in lease = your monthly payment
($15,538 + $3,534.45)/39 = $489
I know I haven't run this example exactly as your deal is - but if you know the details I don't (taxes, Doc fees, etc), you can use this formula to check them. This is how lease payments are figured (with alterations on residual and MF if the length is different)
Sounds to me like you are getting a fair shake from your dealership. $37,528 is excellent for the vehicle/options you chose. I say go for it on the 39mo lease if that length is okay with you. That's what I did anyway.. :P
Enjoy your FX!!!
I am considering leasing from a dealer in Minneapolis, MN for an '06 FX35 AWD, with Tech, Sport, Touring and Hands free, plus cargo mat and dealer delivery; MSRP = 49049.
Less corporate discount 4327.30.
Final price = 44,722.
Too high? What is the dealer invoice price with these options?
I have a 12 month 15000 mile deal, on the table:
$6489 down (includes ttl + registration)
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11 monthly lease payments of $155 per month.
This appears to be the most cash effective lease option for me (24 months is 7338 down and 423 a month plus a new set of tires - can anyone shed any light? Not sure if this is a good deal or not - I also don't know the MF or residual at this point - but I can find out? I have no credit history due to my recent arrival, hence loading up the equity up front.
My questions:
- Am I paying too much for the car?
- What is the dlr invoice price with these options?
- Does anyone know the October Infiniti buy rate lease MF?
- Any advice?
- Anything else I should be thinking about, or at least asking.
- Good deal or No deal?
- What shoudl I be asking
Really appreciate any comments or feedback.
Thanks
$ 379.26/month
$ 2000.00 down (paid upfront)was broken out as follows:
$0 security
$379.26 1st month
$7.50 NJ tire fee
$269.00 doc fee
$1344.24 cap cost reduction
Total gross capitalized cost was $41,498.59:
agreed upon price of vehicle : $ 40,294.95 ($100 above carpoint invoice - sticker was $44,010), $385.46 upfront sales tax, TT&R, $268.18, acquisition fee $550.00.
Here was the Internet add:
2006 INFINITI FX35 6CYL AWD
BUY FOR ONLY $37,895* SAVE: $4165 OFF MSRP
LEASE FOR ONLY $349/M0 + TAX FOR 12 MOS**
Engine: V6 Transmission: AUTO
Options: ABS, LEATHER, SUN/MOON ROOF, POWER WINDOWS, LOCKS, ANTENNA, MIRRORS, SEATS. HEATED SEATS. CRUISE/TILT. AM/FM/CASS/CD PLAYER, CELL PHONE, SECURITY SYS ...MORE!
*DEALER DISCOUNT: $4165.00
** Lease: $495 Dwn. Pyt. + $349 1st Mo. Pyt. + $550 Bank Fee + $0 Sec. Dep = $1394 Due At Inception. Total Pyts: $4188 +tax. P/Option At Lease End: $34,489.20. Mileage Allow: 10,000 Mi. Per Yr. 20¢ Per Mi. Thereafter. Lessee Responsible For Excess Wear & Tear.
Prices include all costs to be paid by a consumer excl., lic., reg., & taxes.
Hopefully I got a decent deal...the car is fun to drive but looks to definitely be a gas guzzler...
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I have to say though that you are making way too large a down payment on your lease. I always advise consumers not to may any capitalized cost reduction at all when leasing. I do so because any cap cost reduction that you make essentially disappears if your leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. You can and should lease this vehicle without making any down payment. All you have to pay at lease signing are its first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 or $50 increment, Infiniti Financial Services' $550 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees.
In answer to your question about this vehicle's lease program, Infiniti Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 12 month lease of a 2006 Infiniti FX35 AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00053 and 81%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 24 month lease are .00115 and 67%.
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410 1st mo
661 cap red
550 bank fee
45 doc fee
10 nys inspection
528 sales tax?
12 tire fee
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$2217.49 Total
How do you guys see this? For some reason these people are giving me a $36,088 purchase option at end of lease. I am not planning to buy this car in 12 months, so, I guess that this is ok. How can this high purchase option affect me if next year I am planning to get the new 2007 fx?
What type of deals should i ask for?
I am in school and trying to say as much money as possible but I dont want to a purchase a car because I won't need one for that long
I paid 255 a month, with 3100 out of pocket with touring and handsfree. The out of pocket included first month, taxes, and fees, etc.
Ive heard of people also getting like 3200 out of pocket, 260 a month..so that seems to be a good number to shoot for.
Thanks,
Jim (former Porsche Cayenne S and BMW X5 owner). :shades:
I am trying to get an 06 FX35 here in Salt Lake City. Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal? It's fully loaded, with the sport package and the electronic package. Here is the email I just got from the dealer:
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Paul, Here are the numbers you asked for.
2006 FX35 Loaded - $48670
12,000 miles/year
12 Month Lease: $669 + tax
0 Down + Fees
Residual - $39,910
Money Factor - 0.00053
24 Month Lease: $679 + tax
0 Down + Fees
Residual - $33,583
Money Factor - .00129
36 Month Lease: $659 + tax
0 Down + Fees
Residual - $27,742
Money Factor - .00150
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I already know that the sticker price he quoted me is MSRP, and I plan on trying to negotiate it down, although it might be difficult since they are the only Infiniti dealer in town. Does anyone know what the invoice price is for a fully loaded FX35? (If I calculated right on the Edmunds website, it is $44,791) The money factor and residual both sound excellent (I think), especially for the 12 month lease. I hope this is a good deal, because I am lusting heavily over the car and might have to get it soon. :-]
Thanks in advance for any help.
MSRP of 44,060, your price being 39,498
15,000 miles per year
$835.94 with $918 out of pocket for 12 months
0 down
I ran the calculator on Edmunds and came up with $481. I'm waiting to hear back from him on what money factor and residual value he used.
2006 FX35 AWD Touring package
12 months lease, 12,000 miles
MSPR : $41300
Net Cap : $37012
monthly payment : $300
down payment : $3300, Includes $3,000 consumer down payment, $300 first month payment, $0 security deposit
residual : $33,866
please help....
2006 FX35 AWD
Diamond Graphite
Touring Package
Technology Package
Sport Package
Handsfree Package
12 month lease with 12k miles
for $399 with $3000 total out of pocket
I think that's a pretty good deal and Infiniti Financial told me I can extend for up to 6 months at the same rate.
A 2007 similarly equipped model would go for over $600 with the same $$ down. The minor features that were added for 2007 (iPod connection, power retractable side mirrors & different wheels) are not worth waiting and the extra $$
Infiniti expects to offer a mid sized SUV in 2008 (like BMW X5, Acura MDX) to complete their SUV lineup. That's why they have the 12 month lease program on the FX until 10/31/06
fx 35, tech package, touring, bluetooth and 10k miles for 304/month and 2900 up front. Is this a good deal? They didnt have the color I wanted which was copper on copper or black on black with the navigation. So i had to get some seregheti color
2006 FX35 AWD Touring & Handsfree package.
Term = 12 months / 12K Miles
Monthly Pmt = $325 ($348 with 7% Sales Tax).
Down Pmt ZERO
Acq Fee 550
Docs 300
Plates 115
1st Pmt w/Tx 348
Total due at signing = $1313.
$3,825 (remaining 11 pmts)
Total 12 months + Fees = 5138
I may be missing a registration fee in the quote.
I am going to make an offer now and if dealer takes it then I will have a FX35 RWD very soon..
MSRP: 40850
Selling price: 37428 (invoice)
Res: 78% (15k for 12 months)
MF: 0.00003
Fees: 1030$ rolled in Gross Cap
0$ Down - No Cap cost reduction
648$/month inc. CA taxes for 11 months (0$ for 1st month payment)
This comes down to 7128$ for all period of the lease
594$/month inc CA taxes over 12 months.
It looks like Nov deals went up in monthly payments. I tried to challenge dealers on 2,5 or 2k incentive to take selling price below, but it didn't work. I believe this incentive is not for 1-year leases.
Anyway, pls provide any thoughts you may have since if my deal doesn't work then I can still use your advises.
Thanks.
I am not intimately familiar with what the market is like for the Infiniti FX35 right now, but full MSRP sounds way too high to me. You definitely should be able to negotiate some sort of discount on one. Make sure to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar vehicles lately: "Infiniti FX45 / FX35: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
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The dealer invoice price of a 2006 Infiniti FX35 AWD Touring is around $37,947. I assume that the "Net Cap" that you were quoted is this vehicle's selling price minus the $3,000 down payment that you are considering making. If so, it means that this vehicle's selling price is actually around $40,012. If this is the selling price, you are only getting around a $1,000 discount and you might be able to do better by negotiating more or shopping around. Make sure to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar vehicles lately: "Infiniti FX45 / FX35: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
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