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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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The '07 doesn't have this, does it?
...that's a tongue-in-cheek pronouncement, right?
..patiently, ez..
What I'm asking is if the current generation has an external audio input. Anybody out there with a current model that can answer that?
No it does not have an Aux in jack. 07 was a carryover from 06. 08 will have an aux in jack.
Here is another list of accessories honda is planning.
Honda brand navigation system (Mounts in car)
Accessory bluetooth like parrot maybe for non bluetooth models
Remote start 2 way LCD
ipod music link
18" wheels will be available
These are some of the rumored accessories. Lets just say it's reliable.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
They only manufacture a few option combinations for each region and you can't special order custom combinations of options.
There are so many models of Accords now with the SEs and VPs and EX with and without leather and available manual transmissions, that there are probably more configurations of the Accord available than Camrys in most areas.
Camry SE is quite a different car than it's other siblings, with its sport tuned suspension and IMO better looking honeycomb grill.
A Camry buyer can get a LE that's fairly base or option it with the high-end stereo with bluetooth, alloys, etc.
Apart from the transmission woes and the silly looking bulbous front grill, I think they did a pretty good job with the new Camry.
Not that I plan to buy one, but I think we should give credit where it is due.
Even though it is listed as options, you CANNOT get the Camry LE with many options listed on their web site and in the brochures in many area because they simply do not manufacture them that way.
You cannot get a Camry LE 4 cylinder with the bluetooth stereo, stability control and many other options in California despite those being listed as options for that model.
You cannot get an XLE 4 cylinder with cloth and navigation despite that it appears you could order it that way. In fact, you cannot get an XLE 4 cylinder with navigation at all. You can easily get an Accord EX-L 4 cylinder with navigation and have choice of automatic or stick on top of that! More choices of Accords than the Camry.
The only choice on the Camry is whatever very limited number of option combination packages Toyota chooses to manufacture and ship.
Out of curiosity, I just checked a Manhattan zip code and the 4 cylinder navi Camry XLE and Camry LE 4 cylinder with bluetooth stereo isn't available there either, so that's both coasts. Those options probably are not available anywhere.
Toyota has many "possible" option combinations, but not many "actual" option combinations.
No credit is due to them for making misleading options lists.
Actually, from some of the interior pics it seems like maybe all cars will have the high mounted center stack LCD screen - even cars without NAV.
Here you'll find splash guards, sunroof visors, ToyoGuard and even leather upholstery on LE and even CE Camry models.
I have seen about 10 Camry LE models with the Bluetooth/AM/FM/CD6/MP3 Option. Only problem is that all 10 of those models came with alloys, sunroof and rear lip spoiler. Every LE model with Bluetooth that I have seen has been equipted the same way with the same MSRP. I've seen Le's like this on about six different lots in the state of South Carolina.
So in the SE region you CAN get a LE with Bluetooth, but you Won't be able to get it as an option by itself. Toyota essentially bundles options together instead of them being a la carte.
With the price of LE's with the options I mentioned, smart people would simply seek out an XLE I4 with cloth and call it a day.
Toyota isn't doing that, the dealers are.
What a horrible region to buy a Toyota, but they can always buy a Honda or something else if buyers don't like it.
Toyota buyers in that region probably don't know any different since that's "normal" for them and they have become used to it.
But I really wish Honda would offer something along the lines of camry SE model.
A subtle rear lip spoiler, 18 inch alloy wheels, sports suspension and some alloy metallic trim maybe a 6psd manual for both the I4 and the V6.
I think the stereo and dash look a bit like the mazda 6 layout.
If you have more pics, let me know
Camry SE model is a fix in the lineup to offer a car that offers a bit of excitement compared to the LE/XLE trims, an attempt to compete with likes of Accord. And despite these attempts, Camry SE still finds itself unsettled on bumpy roads (I was following one today and had a laugh at the behavior of the chassis, with all the frills on board).
If Honda were to offer a sport model on Accord, it would be quite different from simply offering cosmetic upgrades (and minor chassis firming). I wish for that too, but doubt that is happening.
I don't Honda wants the Accord to get any closer to overlapping with those vehicles than they already do.
The Camry SE is the one trying to compete with the Accord and Mazda6 by trying to look and drive "more sporty."
Wound up with the Accord (which I wanted anyway - wife wanted the Camry).
Camry did have some advantages though - can't believe Honda makes a 6-cd changer that won't do mp3's. You can buy a complete portable cd player that will do so for $10.
I drove the Hyundai synata 06, and it had the 5pd shiftronic in the 4cyl and it was amazing, very torquey and fun.
Well, remember the Honda debuted in Fall 2002; it wasn't as big of a deal back then.
It probably felt torquey because it was the V6! The 4-cylinder Sonata has a 4-speed transmission.
The I4 EX has the best looking wheels, IMHO. Even better than the V6 in my book. But our tastes are all different. :shades:
To date Honda has YET to offer a real "sporty" verison of the Accord sedan. The only thing close was the EXv6 6 speed which cosmetically looked like every other Accord on the road sans the 17 inch left over 2002-03 Acura TL Type S rims. And I'm not talking Acura TSX (which is 4 cylinder only and is cramped compared to the Camry or Accord) and I'm not talkin TL (which is too expensive for my budget)
The Accord does handle better than the Camry, even SE models, but a sportier exterior-wise Accord, with 18s, a rear lip spoiler and some interior cosmetics would be a great option I think.
No you won't, just like 99% of the people who have it don't. I'm sick and tired of all of the wannabe "get close to the car" folks - people, if you want get close to the car get a manual and learn to use it - sheesh. :mad:
Biker, who is usually very laid back but this post just put him over the edge.
The closer spacing of spokes on the V-6 models just blur together once the car starts moving. The 4cyl EX/SE rims look like they just loping along - you can distinctly see the revolutions.
At higher speeds they almost dissapear and you can see the whole brake assembly - kinda neat.
Since you are only talking about appearance, that should be ammended to "sporty-looking." A spoiler does not a sporty car make. Look at the Corolla S. They made it look sportier ... but it ain't sporty. I'd rather have the go than the show, personally.
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For the silent non-majority, Biker is right on the mark!!
..ez..
The Hyundai Synata was a 4cyl not a 6cyl.
Aside from all of the other factors, you really should learn how to drive a stick shift, even though you may rarely need to use your new skills or may never purchase a vehicle with one.
You never know if you'll be put in a position where, in an emergency, you might have to drive someone else's car (such as to a hospital).
I've driven manuals for the last 20 years, prior to switching to automatic recently, but I never felt that this choice made me a superior human being or anything .
I like having the "shiftronic" or whatever you want to call it, which I have in my Mazda6, not because I use it to manually shift but it is an easier and more attractive way to have access to every gear in a 5 or 6 speed automatic for things like downshifting when going down a long hill or downshifting manually prior to passing on a two lane road.
The Hyundai Synata was a 4cyl not a 6cyl.
Well, according to Hyundai's own website, the current Sonata 4-cylinder is offered with a 4-speed automatic.
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For me, “Sport” should include the formula that Honda uses in Japanese market. Besides a regular Accord, Honda offers the following trims:
24T (Touring, balanced ride and handling, similar to American Accord)
24TL (Touring Luxury, same as 24T but with additional features and closest thing to TSX)
24S (Sport, brake/suspension/tire upgrade to emphasize handling)
Euro-R (Think Type-R with luxury features that is above 24S in handling)
Spoilers (front and rear), larger wheels and other cosmetic upgrades in general are better served as accessories than as a trim level. I would rather see Honda use the factory $$$ to offer Accord Si with minimum cosmetic frills and let people who want to customize do it from accessories list.
Accord EXV6/6MT is indeed slightly sportier than the other trims here. But I think Honda would be well served to differentiate that flavor with a separate trim and being more aggressive in terms of performance/handling instead of going the cosmetic way.
For the silent non-majority, Biker is right on the mark!!
I'm also in agreement on this I told my wife you can either drive the car or steer it. She opted to want to know how to drive. She drives my big diesel Hi-Lux with a stick very well for a 4'11" lady!
Now she wants a performance car when we get back to the US!
Unfortunately Honda will not be making the V6 with a manual in the sedan for 2008.
So we have started looking at other models more closely.
And by the way, my Father's 1950 Chevy had a push button start (and a choke and manual throttle control- those were the days!). It also had a key that could be set in the on (not locked) position so you just needed to push start button. But that was an invitation for car thieves, so a better locking mechanism was standardized. The new push buttons are secure- in the Altima, you need the key fob somewhere close to activate it.
No you won't, just like 99% of the people who have it don't. I'm sick and tired of all of the wannabe "get close to the car" folks - people, if you want get close to the car get a manual and learn to use it - sheesh.
Biker, who is usually very laid back but this post just put him over the edge.
EXACTLY!!! Shiftronic is never the same are real manually shifted transmission with a real clutch. Problem with automatics is not the shifting, so much, as the toque converter. Manumatics don't take the torque converter out of the equation. Even the DSGs which use mechanical clutch, are not the same as true manual.
I drove a friend's Sedona minivan, which comes with manumatic. Guess what, if you don't shift, it still shifts for you. No matter how much I wanted to hang on to those revs, it shifted. And at stops it shifted down to 1, all by it self. Poseurs!!!
if you mean not having to push the clutch in, then yeah, its not a 'true' manual.
but aside from that you are totally wrong. read up on dsg. its not shiftronic, tiptronic, sportshift, or any of the other kinds of manumatics out there. its literally a manual transmission that a computer pushes in for you. hold the revs all you want. its an automated manual. get the facts straight.