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Thanks for any advice on those, or any others!
The pin that slides into the receiver is sized to fit big or little, so there's a plastic sleeve to size it up to our big hitches... it's not a great fit so the rack and bikes sway a little in corners. It's a little unnerving at first.
Folded down, the rack is far enough out of the way I can get the rear door open enough to remove helmets and packs.
Hope this helps, -Bob
RP, please let me know how the entertainment system works for you. That's what's keeping me from getting the running boards. I'm debating between the two. I'm glad to hear it wasn't difficult to install. I'd probably do it myself. However, for $50 that doesn't sound bad either considering it probably will only take them an hour or so compared to half a day for me. Where would you be installing the system? Is the LCD the flip down type? How about the DVD unit? Sounds like you got a great deal on both. By the way, I'm curious to know if the sound will be coming out of the stereo system or if it would have it's own. I'm sure your little girl would want to go driving around more once that is installed.
By the way, not to sound nationalistic but change your flag so others can easily identify you as someone who has origins from the Philippines.
When we loaded the back full up to go camping, we folded the larger seat forward and he sat next to our daughter. We put a sheet down on the carpet to keep things clean and harnessed him in the same way to the forward luggage tie downs this time to keep him from sitting in her lap!
Also, do do have any similar advice on roof racks? Maybe Yakima, or Thule? Something that hopefully is fairly easy to install/remove.
Thanks! Steve
Thanx in advance.
The roof racks are high enough that I only put skis up there, and the bikes go inside the back or onto the rear rack when more than two of us are going. I don't know if it will fold down far enough to miss your tailgate... hope that's not a big deal for you.
Hey, I found a brand new pair of Girvin front forks for my mtn bike, carbon fiber and the Noleen smart shock... for two-fifty right here in town! Wooooohaaaaaa, pretty soon I won't want to put my ride on the back of the Disco!
Happy Rovering, -Bob
1) Is ACE worth it?
2) Is SLS worth it? (not planning on towing any boats but Disco may see a full load of passengers more than often.
3) Would you consider your Disco "reliable"?
4) What other SUVs were you considering before deciding on the Rover?
I always wanted the ACE package but only the 18" wheel part since I have heard bad things about the ACE system. The last trip to my local LR dealer was a pleasant one as I discovered a selected few of the non-ACE models came with the "Awards package". This included 18" wheels (left overs from Range Rover)and additional interior wood trimmings. This maybe the answer to my dilemma.
Anyway, your comments would truly help. Thanks.
John
He ask me to buy a RF kit(not sure) for the radio and a Monster Cable. The RF kit was used to integrate the sound of the DVD player and the monitor to the radio station of the existing Harman sound system. I have the 12 speaker system with the remote plug at the back for the seven seater. So it eliminate my concern about them screwing up the system.
Went back Saturday afternoon and the technician told me that I can bring it home (with some parts still not installed)and bring it back Sunday for the finishing touches. Decided not to take it and left my rover and return Sunday around noon.
The DVD system is perfect compliment especially if you have the 12 speaker option. The sound that goes out is amazing as if you have a home theater system inside your car (maybe exaggerating a bit). My little girl is so happy when she watches Bear in the Big Blue House.
Hope this will help you decide on what to get. I suggest that you wait for the Thanksgiving sale as the price of the system went back to $500.00 plus the installation from $250.00. BTW the DVD player was installed under the right side of my seven seater. Thanks and happy rovering to all!
Regards To all from this New Yorker,
02.
Thanx again.
I have no Moonroof on my Disco II so I have a lot of space on the front center. The technician told me that he wouldn't install the system if I have one 'coz all the ceiling space is taken. BTW I have the rear air con option.
As for the brand, yuhh I know that it's not branded that is one of my concern that's why I purchased an extended warranty just in case. 4 years parts and labor for $90.00. You can check the web site @ www.farenheitusa.com for other system that they are selling and to know more about the company.
Thanks and happy rovering......
5100 miles and counting. Everything has been great so far. Just a minor coolant leak which was fixed when I had her in for an oil change. The dealer is very professional and friendly and is certainly not the take a number assembly line feel of the typical dealer.
To protect the leather (not suede) in my Rover I use Lexol; it's good stuff.
Regards, -Bob
Thanks!!
You gave me advice a while back on getting 16" snow tires for my RR, as the standard 18" Michelins are so bad in the snow.....still haven't done anything about that yet, but I might call the Tire Rack. Nor have I done anything about getting an extended warranty, as I'm still ticked that I can't buy one anymore thru LR, & just mainly hear bad stories about aftermarket ones. However, my local LR dealer offers one thru "Millennium" (???) which is $2500 for 3 extra years of coverage. I'm thinking of asking the dealer if they will honor it even if the "Millennium" company goes bust. Or, I could just drive around in terror of expensive repairs after my warranty ends next June :-) Of course, I could have gotten a brand new Disco for the price of a used 3 y.o. RR, but the interior, especially, of the 4.6 seems to have affected my brain cells somehow. (My first mistake was that initial visit to a LR dealer "on a whim".....:-)
Thanks, Steve
Speaking of snow, I don't know if it will work but you might look for 16" steel rims that will fit your RR. Then get Nokian Hakkas, LT10s with tungsten studs. You can't go wrong. I'm just now back from driving 102 miles on hard packed snow and glare ice with non-studded Nokians, 60 - 70mph most of the way and not one slip or slide.
About extended warranties... I too was thinking about it, and I left the paperwork laying around the garage where Lord Lucas could see it. Then without saying anything (wink wink) I let my warranty expire. As far as I can tell Lord Lucas thinks I'm covered: since 4 days after my factory warranty ended I have had not ONE hiccup with the Disco... 45,000 more trouble-free miles. Touch wood!
Regards, -Bob
nanuq: Where I live in Mass., winters are "funny", at least 80% of the time we are not driving on snow, but either dry roads or slush, so I need something good on dry roads as well. But I've heard only raves about Nokians. However I'd like to check out Michelin Arctic Alpins as well, are you familiar with those?
Re: ext. warranties, what a crapshoot. I had a Saab 9000 for 10 years which was about equal in reliability reputation, ahem, to a LR. But mine was great, very few problems overall. The thing I have going for me in not buying more warranty for the RR is that I will put only about 5,000 miles a year on it probably. However, I think the peace of mind might be worth it, & then I would feel better about spending even more money on expensive snow tires & bike racks, etc. (Something flawed in this reasoning, I know! ;-). I had thought of trying to trade my 98RR on a '99 or '00 next summer, but these babies depreciate so fast, is probably highly impractical. Happy to hear your Disco is doing so well (knock on wood!).
regards, Steve
I run the Nokians year-round (which is why I didn't stud them) and they work GREAT. They're pretty good in deep mud, handle well onroad (but watch your cornering speed). They want 80psi which makes them awfully rough, so I run 55psi and that's acceptable. They don't overheat even after 3 or 4 hours of high speed driving with 55psi. In the rocks offroad they work okay but they're easy to spin...they don't have the big shoulder lugs. They have DEEP tread so they cut thru the deep sloppy slushy snow well.
About the Alpins... are they the ones with chevron tread, and a million little sipes in the blocks? I believe so. I've heard great things about them too, all those sipes really grab ice well. But, you're going to wear them quickly on pavement. Same with Blizzaks... their spongy tread compound is great for ice but wears quickly on pavement.
If you're going hard-core ice tires with studs, get separate rims and go full-gonzo. If you're getting all-season tires (studless) then you'll like the Hakka LT10s.
Good luck! Still snowing here!
My left rear lights went out, I have a rattle in my rear door, and my offside headlight took a stone and cracked.
I spent 2 hours disassembling my rear jump seats and taking the panel apart so I could get into the lighting block back there, and guess what... it was only a blown bulb. BOTH filaments blew at the same time. Hmmmmm has this ever happened before? And the inside of the bulb was completely black and sooty. Hmmmmmm lools like Lord Lucas was reminding that he's still The Man. Luckily, a new bulb sorted it.
I still have to take the rear door apart and see what's rattling (I think I already know) and as for my headlight... I guess that's inevitable with all the rocks and gravel on the road. Just sorta seems ironic!
Okay, My Disco is running like absolute HELL, it's falling apart and leaking everywhere, and nothing works and I'm going to have to just park it and walk away!!!!
(psst: think he took the bait? I hope so!)
Regards! -Bob
1) the brakes make a crunching sound when first turning the vehicle on. what is this?
2) Steering column has a small but annoying squeak, why did they use such cheap plastic on the dash? you would thing for this kind of money the dash would be of better quality.
3) after initially turning the car on and accelerating to about 40mph then coasting it make a thump sound from the bottom of the car. only once then not again. what is this? doesn't seem serious. seems like a gear disengaging.
4) my truck only has 700 miles on it but i think the steering wheel vibrates more than it should for a new truck. seems like a balancing or alignment problem, will land rover take care of this under warranty because i've had the vehicle for such a short period of time? or will they say wear and tear?
thanks for tips.
On another note, while I was at the dealer our sales person tells us that he had a major gasket leak on his 97 disco (with 48,000 miles). He stated that the cost was $4,000. Can this be accurate or do you think that he was trying to sell me an extended warranty (as this came up in the conversation)? We bought ours about 9 weeks and 2,500 miles ago (it is a 98 which now has 26,000 miles on her). When they certified it they found a gasket leak (surprise, surprise). They fixed it and I was hoping that it would not happen again (right!). Anway, what can I expect from these gaskets? I still have 2 years of warranty left on her. How long do these gaskets usually go before blowing? Are they really that expensive to fix? Is it perhaps possible to take her to an independent mechanic when it does happen or will they just fit her with the same fualty Rover gaskets? I am a newbie so pardon the ignorance.
Brett
My Disco had several leaks, including the oil sump, rocker covers and intake manifold. These were replaced under warranty and now there are no problems.
A leaking gasket as expensive as your quote must be something very major; my guess is leaking head gaskets. I have heard of this although I suspect it is not that common.
My '96 Disco had the carbon-cutting valves installed under warranty and upon reassembly the mechanic noticed one of the head gaskets in the kit had a slight kink. He rejected it and ordered up another set. It too was kinked. He did this SEVEN times until he finally got on the phone with someone and had a set made and shipped. They arrived is satisfactory condition and he used them... zero trouble since then.
Remember these engines are basically an American V8... there is no rocket science going on here. If you develop engine trouble, probably a Rover mechanic with Testbook OBDII will determine the problem quickest. But any competent mechanic should be able to fix it. If he doesn't have the factory workshop manual then bring him yours... there are some tricks to working on the beasts.
A rule of thumb with Rovers is "Once they're fixed they tend to stay fixed". If it's a gasket leak chances are a dab of Hylomar and retorquing will sort it. If the gasket is truly blown, a new one is easily fitted and the problem goes away. There's just no rocket science here... very little to worry about!
And now for my Lord Lucas Disclaimer: "My Rover runs like absolute hell and leaks and has parts falling off it constantly... I'm going to just PARK IT and walk away!!!"
HAH, works every time. Touch wood!
-Bob
Thanks for imparting your wisdom
Brett
Coincidence? Not on your life. So yes, my truck runs like hell... but I love her anyway. Sometimes.
Regards, -Bob
"The parts falling off this truck are of the highest English quality"
I bet he has ZERO trouble with it! Hmmmmm, where can I get one of those...?
Item 1: The "crunch" is the ABS and traction control coming on. If you have your foot on the brake while your starting it gives you a good buzz through the pedal.
Item 2: I have a clacking sound on cold days from behind the glove box. No luck finding it.
Item 3: I get the same thing, about 1 mile down the road, a thump and a shift and nothing after that. Once in a while a clank from the drive train while its upshifting. No problems found by dealer.
Likewise, I draw correlations between pride of ownership and what it "costs" me to keep the thing I own working. I could drive a flawless Toyota Land Cruiser and have umpteen trouble-free miles, or I could pick a Series Rover. One will be an appliance and the other, I'll develop a relationship with. One I could trade in and not blink, the other will cost a few tears to hand over the keys some day.
The people in my life with whom I have relationships are the ones that matter to me. The "appliance" people are the ones who perform a function but have zero input... good or bad. They're just... "there" doing their duties, often flawlessly.
Many vehicles are just... "there". Others assert themselves. My wife asserts herself. Sometimes she surprises me (good or bad). I cherish that. I wouldn't marry an "appliance" wife that simply said "Yes Dear" all the time, I like the surprises. They are the fabric from which our memories are cut.
Same with my Rover. Same with my friend's XKE. How many times have we NOT gone somewhere because of that obstinate, leaking piece of British junk? Plenty. But there's been lots of times we've sat around with tools working on it... and those times are lots better than the lost events we didn't attend.
In my book a 70s Ducati Desmo is lots better than a spanking new SS. The new one will run circles around the old one, in every way... but the old one will talk to you. There's value in that.
Just my $.02
Nanuq, Rover has always been a dream for me, such as a Mercedes E class, so the introduction of the Disco and the C class at least lets some of us financially disadvantaged to stick our toes in the waters of the affluent.
Did you know Ford also owns several other marques in its upscale holdings? Jaguar and Rover are simply the most recent. Some of the names will surprise you.
I went to my local Land Rover dealer today to put my order in for a 2002 Discovery SE. When I arrived I was horrified to see what "someone" thinks is acceptable in a $40,000.00 vehicle. Now, I am not much of a coffee drinker, and I certainly feel compassion towards "a fellow human being's addiction" to caffine, but I don't understand why, I/we, have to be subjected to these ugly, oversized, coffee/drink cup holders slapped down in the middle of the Discovery's console! This is ludicrous! When you see these ugly, cheap, gaudy monsters for yourself,(click on link above)you will surely want to hurl! For goodness sake, these things put me in mind of Dolly Parton's chest! Forgive me fellow Town-Hall-ites, I'm sick to my stomach! Needless to say, I did NOT place an order for a 2002 Discovery as of yet! I need some time to review the merits of having to spend an additional $550.00 for a 2001 console plus an additional $170.00 for installation to have these mocha-slop holders removed for good!
As always,
Regards to All,
02.
Also, as a mechanic, you should know that the last person who knows anything about what makes a car tick is your typical car salesman. Even the X-type, which shares the highest percentage of Ford components, has less than 20%.
And as much as purists like to criticize the changes in their beloved products, these are driven by market forces. Auto manufacturing is a business and as such the products need to change to stay competitive in an ever competitive market place. 10 years ago, there were less than 20 SUV's marketed in the states, today there are about 70, most very good products that meet the needs of the majority of consumers. Without Ford's financial backing Land Rover would wither and die, as Jaguar and Aston Martin would have.
Regards To All,
02.
Tincup, my comment to LR would be to include the new holders and the screws so that the owner can install them if they choose (or have the dealer do it for them). Then everyone could be happy. Those that want them get them and those that don't can use the space as they wish. The console is a better spot for a cell phone anyway.
Besides, every person I see in the AM holds onto their coffee as they drive, most while using their hands free phone (this is southern california after all). None of them use the giant cup holders that ford and chevy provide them so LR should make them an option. Anyone who walks away from a Disco over the lack of a giant cup holder should probably be looking at minivans anyway (no disrespect to you 02discovery).
Regards,
02
Regards,
02
Just an FYI to those of you with 2000 Dicso IIs- I had a minor front end collision (minor for me, not for the Blazer I hit!!!) and shortly thereafter noticed some coolant dripping near the front passenger side wheel. Took it into the body shop and they confirmed the coolant leak but believed it couldn't be from the minor collision, so they sent me to my dealer (who is fabulous, btw) and after looking at it for about half a minute, the dealer rep said they would replace the radiator under warranty. Well, as you all know, nothing in this life is free, and as a suspicious consumer, I asked the dealer guy why they were so willing to replace it, I said, "Have you had problems with this make and model previously?" and he smiled and said, "We have seen a few so we are replacing them with an updated design." So I got the new one in and the leak is gone- but I wanted to leave a message for those of you who might notice a leak on your garage floor. Since it is not a safety issue, there is no recall, but it's good to know.
BTW- some people have mentioned in past posts about hot air coming from their vents even with the climate control off- we solved it by lowering the temp control before shutting the system off. This has helped greatly.
Still love the truck after 8000 miles, and after driving two 2001 Disco IIs as loaners during service, I can vouch for the fact that no two are the same! Each has its own quirks and personality. I love my truck and am so glad that we got it! And we haven't even driven it in the hellish Minnesota winter yet! (Heated seats are absolutely a gift from God!)