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I'm surprised since Euro Mazda6 and Japanese Atenza offer four cylinders only.
I would have expected different engines in the US to include a six cylinder.
One more thing about the Mazda6, from what I was told, there is a bit of Lexus / Toyota in the rear design. More Lexus I hope. Also, the dual exhaust will be part of the bumper, not pipes under the bumper, like in the Euro version. Look for the Mazda6 to be near the size of the 2002-2006 Altima. Apparently, it is built on the same chassis as well, the GG/GY platform, not the Ford Mondeo platform, but, I did not get a confirmation on that either.
Once again, the front end and side profile are almost exactly what Japan is making for Japan and Europe. The rear end and overall size is where they will differ.
Also, I did not get a confirmation about AWD, either. Still a rumor.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2009-mazda3-to-indicate-future-styling-of-mazda-mode- ls.html
Mazda could perform the "lipstick on a pig" treatment for the 2009 and change the exterior and interior with minor changes to platform and engines.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-6-future.html
If you notice, the interior is the same (thank God). The front and side are the same too. The rear is different, but I do like the exhaust coming out of the bumper. Very nice. Really, guys, this car even under camo, still looks so much better then anything out there right now. Also notice, it's not going to have a total plastic mesh grill. It will probably be some sort of "sport" type, body colored grill.
What is a concern of mine is the V6 engine choice? Is it lighter? More fuel efficient I-4? Does it have electro-hydrolic steering like the rest of the Mazda lineup? Other then that, the car should not disappoint.
I would not be a 6 owner if there was not a hatch.
Mazda3 hatch has sold very well and Mazda6 hatch has sold well enough to justify itself in the US.
I guess the popular Matrix and Vibes don't count as hatches.... oh that's right – they are "crossovers"
While I'm at it, I'm going to expect Ford/Mazda to delete folding mirrors, parking sensors and headlight washers for the American market. It's the non-folding mirrors that really turns me off.
Being from NY with narrow streets and driveways, I refuse to purchase a car with fixed mirrors anymore.
Exactly! This is why there is the Edge from Ford (rather than a Fusion wagon or hatchback) and from Mazda we now have the CX7 and CX9.
Nevertheless, if the new Mazda3 hatchback gets the options of the Mazda6 in Japan, then there's no point to really have a Mazda6 hatchback, unless it's a sedan with a wiper in the back (for people who like sedan form), which it is.
I think a real hatchback should really look like a hatchback. So to me, calling a Mazda6 a hatchback doesn't quite make a lot of sense without the height for more room in the cargo area. The Mazda6 hatchback is more like a "crossover." The longer wagon Mazda6 would make more sense for the extra room compared to a Mazda3 hatchback.
Mazda really has to be careful with the Mazda3 and Mazda6 this time because I believe that Mazda5, CX-7 and CX-9 have failed miserably and are not competitive in term of pricing as well. For a fully loaded Mazda5 with 4+2 seat, you are close to get a Sienna 7 full seats. For a loaded CX-7 4wd, you can get a 3.5L Rav4, or a fully loaded Outlander with 5+2 seat, HID, 30GB, and etc... And CX-9? It starts close to $30k. In that zone, it gets really hot.
If this thing starts to be like VW, and Mazda is not listening, this would be the result :lemon:
Quirky Japanese carmaker becomes fastest growing U.S. brand
quote psycho- Mazda really has to be careful with the Mazda3 and Mazda6 this time because I believe that Mazda5, CX-7 and CX-9 have failed miserably and are not competitive in term of pricing as well.-end
Let's all hope Mazda continues to "fail" in such a spectacular fashion.
I'd like to see and drive the new Mazda6 before I judge it.
The 5-door Mazda6 sold pretty good around here, at least I see a lot of them on the road. My local dealers are all sold out of the 2008 model 5-doors.
A couple quotes from that article:
Mazda's sales were also helped by the introduction of two new crossovers -- the CX-7 and CX-9...
The CX-9...has been a major success for Mazda
Let me clear things up for you. Mazda does not use the word "hatchback" in reference to the Mazda6. They call it a "5-door". The Mazda6 5-door offers more versatility then the Mazda6 sports sedan, while maintaining the sporty sedan appearance. The Mazda6 5-door offers 22.1 cu ft of trunk space, while the sedan offers 15.2. Both of these measurements are with the rear seats upright. The 5-door offers a whopping 58.7 cu ft of room with the rear seats folded, and offers a removable rear deck. The Mazda3 5-door offers more cargo room then the Mazda3 5-door, with both the seats up and down. If you compare the Mazda6 wagon to the Mazda3 5-door, there is a world of difference. If you do not want or need the extra room of the wagon, you can opt for the Mazda6 5-door as a more practical choice. Also, the Mazda6 in general offers more comfort, more passenger room then the Mazda3. Personally, I bought a Mazda6 5-door over a Mazda3 5-door because of the added versatility, sedan look, and more comfortable interior.
Borrowed from the Escape hybrid forum is this building/ordering schedule for various cars and trucks for the USA and Canada
http://www.donlen.com/build_out_start_ups.html
I am worried since the 2009 6 5-doors is listed as discontinued for 2009...
Did you mean it will show up in summer or early fall of '08?
Also, will AWD be available, like in the other platform-mate, Ford Fusion?
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehi- - cleCode=M6H
We are not going to get it at all. Only limited time on the west coast. I'm located in CT. Are you attending the dealer meeting in April when they show the US Mazda6?
Build Out (Final Order Due) / Start Up Dates
It does not seem to be speculation at all. When the Mazda ordering instructions say it is discontinued for 2009, it seems pretty clear that it will be discontinued.
Now, maybe it will be back the following year, as they also did not initially offer the 5 door in the current model.
http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/mazda6/2009/review.html
Does it mean they already have one, will have one real soon or is this just wishful thinking?!?
The 2009 Mazda6 for the US wil displayed to non MNAO (Mazda North American Operations) employees in April at the national dealer meetings in Denver, CO.
I am not suprised that Edmunds already has it's hands on one. Mazda is one of those companies that likes to have writers and reviewers test their cars just before the unveiling. Once the car is unveiled, all of the various reviews will hit the web and magazines.
I don't think the west coast dealers will get them come April. They have not had the opportunity to order any yet, and turn around from time of order to dealer lots is around 8-12 weeks. Remember, dealers will get to SEE the Mazda6 for the first time on April 25th. Look for ordering forms / specs / and pricing to follow AFTER that meeting.
I have been told that we can expect these on our lots come September / October at the earliest.
I am sure that it will not be until 2010 that Mazda doe as 6 door with go fast parts.
If you want row the car yourself go with the Speed 3, if you want the auto shifter go with the VW.
Happy shopping
Let me how it works out.
Later RXL
If I like the new 6 and go for the 2.5 everything would then depend on whether Mazda keeps the manual transmission option. Can't imagine they'd get rid of it, but if they do, I'll be visiting others' showrooms.