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Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima

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  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    You left out the part about being able to steer around the obstacle while in full,brake pedal to the floor,ABS mode. That is where most drivers are in a surprise situation stop.
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    ABS Brakes Link True, it does not always stop shorter, but in most cases it will. If it comes down to a true panic stop, or something a situation which is for you to manually control the braking pressure to apply with so much going on, I would say the automatic system could be the way to go. I have been driving some 38 years, and have not had this happen, but it certainly could one day. And if I did lock the brakes, the skidding car will not stop as fast as still rolling tires braking.
    Loren
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    They must have done some research or it would cause them to loose sales on the safety issue.

    Maybe Nissan is loosing a few sales because of the lack of ABS.

    I know they lost one, among other reasons.
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    What I did not like about the Altima:
    1) the foot brake for an emergency brake, placed where the clutch once was
    2) Steering seems a bit light.
    3) CVT just did not feel right to me and wonder about cost of repair / possible problems?
    4) V6 jacks up price. Got the Accord SEV6 for a pretty good price.

    Loren
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    You left out the part about being able to steer around the obstacle while in full,brake pedal to the floor,ABS mode. That is where most drivers are in a surprise situation stop.

    no, I mentioned that,
  • exshomanexshoman Posts: 109
    I know, I own an EX-L. What I was referring to was that Honda designates a car with Navi as it's own model (quasi-model?), not as simply an option to an EX-L.

    Seems a bit of a stretch to me. Go to Carsdirect.com to build an Accord, and you'll see 6 "models" for each of the 4 cylinder & 6 cylinder lines.

    4 cylinder "models" - VP, LX, SE, EX, EX-L, EX-L w/Navi
    6 cylinder "models" - SE, LX, EX Auto, EX 6spd, EX Auto w/Navi, EX 6spd w/Navi.

    If it was me, I'd have just 3 models. VP, LX, & EX. Then hang some "options" off each. But hey, no big deal, manufacturers can do what they want to do.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    I'm not going to beat this into the ground but Honda lists trimlines here: Accord Sedan

    Interesting that they don't even separate out the EX-L. If you click on the trimline for EX, you will see the EX-L and EX-L with Navi. That was really what I remember from years ago anyway. Not sure when this EX-L stuff started. The DX (now VP), LX, and EX were once the three choices. They'd thrown in an SE on occasion. When I bought my 95, leather seats were just an option (on the EX only).

    Honda doesn't really do many options but automatic transmission, leather and Navi are really just options. Leather is the weird one because now they add a few other things. Also, the V6 manual adds a couple of things you can't get on any other model.

    But "Quasi-trimline" works for me. ;)
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    In 03 only the V6 models had leather. Now, some 4cyl models come with leather, hence the EX-L. Leather and Navigation are the two most expensive options, so the separate designations make it clear which cars have them, and which don't. Makes sense to me.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    In 03 only the V6 models had leather.

    Really? That is sure a switch from the past as well as the present. As I said earlier, leather was available as an option on my 95 EX. It was standard on the V6, just like it is today.
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Posts: 490
    In 03 only the V6 models had leather

    The '03 Accord was available with leather & 4cyl engine.

    It was the EX-L & still is in 2007.

    The V-6 Accord was designated EXVL.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I stand corrected. I guess the EX-L and with navi started in 03, and not later on. I thought the L for leather, and navi designations started when the DX changed to VP. When was that?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Hm. I know I have seen a 2005 DX Accord before (oblong taillight design, but all red indicators - no amber signals), but the VP may have also been available at the time. The DX was discontinued for 2006.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    I thought the DX changed to the VP in 06 but I don't know for sure.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 855
    ...commentary has somehow eluded me.

    .....AV6 6M seems almost perfect in that it's fast, fuel efficient and was available WAY below cost late summer '05.

    Plan a Nissan coupe test drive after the crowd thins.........the Z's reward visibility made me nervous.........but at the very least, this Altima coupe has the VQ powerplant............

    Should be an interesting summer with new Accord coupe also a contender.........ez
  • tg1994tg1994 Posts: 8
    I can honestly say that as a previous Altima owner (I just sold my 2001 Altima to buy my 2007 Accord) the Accord is a MUCH better car. Better handling, better shifting, more horsepower, smoother ride. I could go on and on. Nissan just can't hold a candle to Honda in an area.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    I can honestly say that as a previous Altima owner (I just sold my 2001 Altima to buy my 2007 Accord) the Accord is a MUCH better car. Better handling, better shifting, more horsepower, smoother ride. I could go on and on. Nissan just can't hold a candle to Honda in an area.

    I would say the 2007 Accord is much better than the 2001 Accord as well. Comparing a current car to something designed 10 years ago isn't exactly apples and oranges, but I am glad you like your purchase.
    I actually thought the Altima was very strong in the power department (even the 4 cyl) and handling was great, but I didn't see the value in the Altima. And I do not want a CVT.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The 2001 Altima wasn't really in the same class as the Accord at the time, I believe. It was a compact I think, and didn't even offer a V6 engine. The Maxima competed with the Accord until the 2002 Altima came out. The 2001 and earlier Altimas were similar to large compacts like the Ford Contour and Mazda 626.
  • bv050506bv050506 Posts: 97
    I can guaranty you my V-6 Altima is quicker than your V-6 Honda, so I don't exactly get your statement. You got a great car for sure, but the '07 Altima is a much finer car than they had in '01 or even '06. I would also question the handle statement. But in the end we each got what WE like and that's what it's all about.
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    Thats pretty funny. the 2001 altima has been redesigned TWICE since then. In 2001 it wasn't even a mid size.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I can guaranty you my V-6 Altima is quicker than your V-6 Honda

    Car and Driver got 5.9 seconds for 0-60 in both the Accord 6MT and Altima 6MT. Where did you get your test results for the Altima, if I may ask?

    Tenths of a second can't be felt by 98% of the drivers out there, so it is probably a moot point anyway.
  • thenebeanthenebean Posts: 1,124
    im not gonna look it up now (too lazy :P) but one magazine's results doesn't mean squat. different skilled drivers can get different results out of cars that are seemingly the same, and may or may not have driven the car to its fullest potential.

    either way, its moot. who drives a car like a madman anyways?

    wait...don't answer that question :P

    i prefer nissan to honda, but that is a personal preference. i feel like nissan cars have more "soul" to them than hondas do. that doesn't make honda bad, just not for me.

    but boy, are the honda faithful a vocal bunch! ;)

    -thene :)
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    i prefer nissan to honda, but that is a personal preference. i feel like nissan cars have more "soul" to them than hondas do. that doesn't make honda bad, just not for me.

    That wasn't always the case. It was reversed in the late 80s early 90s. An 80s Sentra had like 60 hp and was shaped like a brick, while the Civic had sophisticated suspension and 108 hp. The Accords had pop up headlights and could be a sedan or hatchback, double wishbone suspension, etc, and Nissan had the Stanza ('nuff said).

    I personally don't find soul in any car that lacks a clutch pedal, so I feel like Nissan is "slipping" in that area.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Frankly, I found both the Altima and the Accord fun to drive (and somewhat similar in ride too, which is good). I only have the 2006 Altima 2.5S to compare to, not the new 2007.

    It was boomy sounding and tinny feeling though, so it went off of the list quickly. I wanted something that felt at least as solid as my 1996 Accord, and the Altima didn't satisfy.

    As for soul, well, I tend to think it is sort of possible for a driver to "connect" with a car, so that one car may not excite one driver (the Audi A4 Cabriolet I drove once wasn't as exciting as my Accord 4-cylinder to ME), but the current Accord's balance is just PERFECT for my tastes, and that helps me really get "involved" with the car, if that makes sense :). The Fusion drove sportier than my Accord, but I felt no "gut feeling" that I wanted the car, along with some other issues I had with it that I have laid out in the past.

    In short, I think the old saying "home is where the heart is" works with cars too.
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    but boy, are the honda faithful a vocal bunch!

    Wait til you encounter the Hyundai-ers around here!
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    As for soul, well, I tend to think it is sort of possible for a driver to "connect" with a car

    Not just yea - but hell yea. I connected to an Audi S4 the other day. I had to wipe the drool of the seats of the car when I returned it. It was an easy car to love.

    Nissan definitely plays on the driver involvement aspect of car sales than Honda. The whole Shift thing.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Does Honda have a "slogan" of sorts these days that I'm not aware of? I know Toyota has "moving forward"...Nissan has "shift ____", but I can't remember anything for Honda.

    I did like the idea behind "If you haven't looked at Ford lately, look again." It was VERY true for the Fusion - worth a GOOD look.
  • thenebeanthenebean Posts: 1,124
    well i wasn't driving in the late 80's and early 90's, though i did have an early 90's (1992 to be exact) Nissan Maxima as my first car. LOVED it! i refuse to drive anything other than a stick, and now own an 03 Sentra SE-R spec V that i bought brand new in 2002 (couldnt afford a new maxima right out of college).

    if i am a driving enthusiast, who wants soul - i wouldn't buy an altima with a 4cyl engine. sure, my car has the same engine, but its smaller. if i bought the altima (which is a very nice looking car by the way!) i would definitely get that V6 with the 6sp.

    i am upset though that the new GTR is going to have paddle shifters... :(

    i still want one though!!!

    nothing about honda excudes excitement to me though. honda sells a lot of cars because they appeal to the masses. most people buy a car because they need to get from point a to point b in a reliable safe fashion. honda does that better than anyone. i want to get from point A to point B with a smile on my face. i find that nissan does that better.

    again, my two cents - your opinion may vary!

    -thene :)
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    well i wasn't driving in the late 80's and early 90's, though i did have an early 90's (1992 to be exact) Nissan Maxima as my first car. LOVED it! i refuse to drive anything other than a stick, and now own an 03 Sentra SE-R spec V that i bought brand new in 2002 (couldnt afford a new maxima right out of college).

    I think the '89 Maxima (4DSC the called it at the time)was the beginning of a rebirth for Nissan. The SR20 powered Sentra, G20, and NX came out right as Honda killed the CRX and replaced it with the Del Sol (whooooops). There was no Civic SI and Vtec was just getting started and only available on the Integra GS-R/Del Sol. VW had nothing but the 2.0 16v they had been pushing for years. It was a good time to be Nissan. Oh, that and the 90-96 300zx was one of the most beautiful, timeless designs ever.
  • mickylongmickylong Posts: 29
    Anyone else trying to make a decision between Accord and Altima coupes having as tough a time as I'm having? I haven't owned or leased either a Honda or Nissan product in the past although I did lease an Acura RSX Type S for a few years. Anyone want to weigh in on what makes one better than the other? Price seems extremely close (looking at V6 w/ nav), I like different styling elements from both, love the Altima's remote key feature. My impressions of ride and handling is that the Honda "felt" larger in size and heavier during the ride. Maybe a little less sporty than the Altima. Altima seemed quieter. Haven't been able to see the nav system yet on the Honda but audio seems comparable between the two. Anything I need to really poke at to expose positives or negatives in this comparison?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    This is a comparison of the Accord and Altima coupes. I think this is on V6 versions, so it may not be exactly what you're looking for.http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123357
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