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What information are you looking for from the website? I found it useful when trying to get an iPod to work (the problem was with corruption in the iPod) and also understanding that an AT&T Motorola RAZR can pull the address book and support text messages but the Sprint Motorola RAZR cannot.
Its also where they have updates for SYNC (including music libraries and what not). That is more for the hard drive, as the metadata associated with MP3 or ACC files is what the SYNC voice engine uses to listen for a song or artist name.
Honestly I can't believe it took so long for an OEM to come up with something like this. Its been 10 years since the first iPod integration when VW gave away an iPod holder that sat in the cup holder and had a cassette adapter.
You are absolutely correct. I did not adequately express my thought. What I should have said it was an idiotic comparrison. It is senseless to compare cars in different classes and different market targets as they have different purposes.
I think the FFH and a Lexus 450h comparison though is indeed a LONG strech for comparison purposes. Then again, the comments may save a lot of people money if they were looking at Lexus and now consider the FFH as a superior purchase decision.
But in the same strech of comparisons, my HH is superior in many ways to the FFH. It has much more flexibility in space and utility, has 4wd, reclining rear seats, even a third row! But who, from customers buying a FFH really makes that comparison? Pointless.
When it stays in electric mode or no braking is involved the sound stays the same.
Only when it goes from gas above 50 mph to braking which switches into EV mode then until it stops completely. I'll check out the sound settings thing and see if that works.
I was hoping that this vehicle would have (DRL) Daytime running lights, but evidently not equipped as I see it.
It is a fun vehicle to drive, very good on the curves, solid car. Have driven a total of 300 miles and gas is almost at the half way mark.
I was wondering how you liked your car. The mpg will/should get better. I agree about the DRLs, but I'm glad to hear that the lights come on when the wipers are activated.
I'm a third-of-the-way thru a 1000 mile trip this weekend. 95+% on interstate at 70 mph. So far my mpg is 39-40 mpg, even with the A/C on and in the hills on the edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
When I was leaving town yesterday, I stopped by the dealer to get my new tag. The sales manager told me that he had 4-5 more hybrids on order, but he doesn't think he will get all of them anytime soon. He is under the impression that Ford is decreasing its output of the Fusion/Milan hybrids. He suspects that hybrids are selling (he has sold all of his and several people have come in and asked about hybrids), but other cars aren't selling well. I suspect that the gov't commitment to buy 17k+ hybrids has something to do with it.
Has anyone noticed that the oil is changed at 10K? The weight is 5w-20w. The service department told me that the oil should be synthetic or synthetic blend.
Wyatt
No long trips (nothing longer than 100 miles.) Mileage about 38-39 mpg. Mileage noticeably different going TO work (900 foot difference) than returning from work.
I dont have the manual here with me. Are you sure it is 10k between oil changes and not 5k?
Roger
(http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/SPubs/default.asp?TYPE=OWNERGUIDE&pageid- =oghome&gutsid=spubs_serv_all_new&MARKET_LANG=US-EN&YEAR=2010&VEHICLE=Fusion+Hyb- rid)
Rog
The other story which I had not revealed was I picked up the MMH on 4/29 and on 4/30 while going back to the dealer to have pin-striping put on, a young lady made a left hand turn against the light and hit my drivers side fender just in front of the rear wheel. Did not look like much damage, but estimate was $1830. Her insurance company accepted full liability (she received ticket) and Ins. Co. is sending check today to have repairs done. Not a good day and did not have the vehicle 24 hours. Life goes on and it is driveable.
7.5k sounds better and is recommended if you drive in dirty environments or heavy duty city driving.
Check the info on the oil changes and tire rotations service package. When I bought that service, I was quoted 15 changes, etc., but the guy as thinking it would be 3k oil changes. When I when back to challenge his figures, he said for the FFhybrids it would be 7.5k, but only 8 changes with synthetic or synthetic blend oil. My FFH was the first the dealer had sold, he wasn't up on the details. I guess the hybrid Escape has a much different schedule and oil requirement. Is your dealer a AutoNation dealer?
I really like Michael Jackson's (he's the CEO of AutoNation) ideas about the auto industry and what we need to do to decrease oil consumption and our dependency on middle east oil, but I didn't like some of the "dealer required/automatic options" that go with every car sold by an AutoNation dealer, such as Nitrogen in the tires.
And you do understand that Ford already covers the powertrain for 5 yrs/60K miles and bumper to bumper for 3 yrs/36K miles? So that ext. warranty only adds bumper to bumper coverage outside of the powertrain for 2 years/24K miles. Seems like a lot for so little coverage.
Even though I tried to drive the same thru out the trip and used cruise control most of the time, there was a significant decrease in mpg when I was getting tired, wanted to get to my destination, was engrossed in a "who done it" audio book mystery, and was very focused on poor night visibility and road conditions due to heavy rain.
I guess the computers driving during the EPA's mileage tests don't get tired, in a hurry, blinded by rain and spray from semis, or engrossed in murder mysteries.
By the end of the trip, my right calf was twice the size of my left one and took a few days to loosen up. That is how much the foot was moving to get the kind of mileage I saw. I can do the same in the Camry, I saw 43 MPG on the highway once, which is 10 MPG higher than the car is rated. Overall I would say you did good for a N00B Hybrid owner! :shades: Next time, try it at 65, you will see just how much a difference 5 MPH can make.
Actually, I'm amazed at the mpg around town. I can keep my focus for short local trips, but I'm not really a hypermiler.
Isn't the EPA rating 36 mpg for highway driving? Seems like you exceeded (EPA's)expectations.
I could typically get 39 in the TCH on highway trips. Warm dry weather helps as I have seen 41 on the same trips that usually averaged the 39.
I've been watching this forum as I consider the Prius and the FFH, wondering how real world milages will work out. The TCH had a tight spread between city/highway. The FFH though with longer EV capabilities has a larger spread between the two.
It is my theory that people (like myself) that drive a lot of highway will typically average below the 41 mark on the FFH. I was able to easily surpass the EPA over 67,000 miles in the TCH by paying attention to what I was doing. But even when I "got tired" I would still average 36, which is still above the new EPA ratings. I don't think I'll see the majority of people exceeding the 41 on overall milage. Sure there will be some folks in the flat lands with mild temp's that will always do that, but in WV and hilly country with cold winters, I think if you can get close to the 40 mark overall you have an excellent car. people with 60% or more of their driving in the cities will probably see excellent results as well.
Don't worry about one trip. You probably don't have the car broke in yet, nor have the techniques as second nature yet. Your lifetime average will probably go up as you add miles. Long trips on the interstate are not what this car was designed for.
It's good that they get decent milage (better than most) on the trips, but when you add in all the pit stops, driving around once at your destination and all the misc side trips. then the milage on a long trip is pretty incredible compared to what you would have in a regualr fusion.
I took a 300 mile trip with my daughter in her ICE only 2010 Fusion last weekend. 22-31 mpg EPA I think. When I got into the car she had a 22.7mpg average from just driving around (first tank). I filled it up and reset the odometers and gages. She averaged 28.2 on the trip. All interstate, BUT she drove 81mph the whole time. I tried to get her to slow down as I was really interested in seeing what it would do. People like her that end up buying a Hybrid expecting good FE are usually the ones that are disappointed.
Enjoy the FFH, I think after you live with it for a while you will fall deeper in love
Bottom line is you will become spoiled. As I look around for new wheels I'm having a hard time looking at a car that gets less than 30 mpg on average. Unless you go with a small diesel or a hybrid they can't be found. Really wish the CTS had a hybrid.
1. The best mpg is in stop and go city traffic. 39-42 mpg is typical for her drive to work or around town. Rarely do we see anything less than 38 mpg, unless it is a short trip with a cold ICE. and
2. Except for my recent long trip, I usually get 38-39 on the hiway, as long as the terrain is no more than low rolling hills. A/C seems to cut mpg 1-2 mpg-but I'm guessing. Last weekend, I took a 50 mile sightseeing trip across severely flat rural roads at about 40-50 mph, and our mpg for the trip was 44 mpg.
From your comment about your daughter's car, it sounds like Ford has put a mpg readout/gauge in all Fusions. I believe that alone will cause people to improve their mpg.
I'm under the impression that they are only producing the high end models. Is this consistent with others' experiences?
I'm in the X-Plan and on the Ford site you can search dealer inventories if you know a zip code in the area.
About two weeks ago the dealer got delivery of two FFHs - one with no options (but a different color from what I ordered) and one with the 501A options (in the color I wanted)
I went into the dealer and asked if I could take the 501A car for the no-options price.. We added several hundred bucks to the price to set the deal.
So he still has the no-options FFH on the lot.
He is the only Ford dealer in Vermont with a FFH. I saw a MMH on that auto dealership lot.
According to cars.com, there are a few in New Hampshire and around the Albany area, mostly with either no options or the 501A option. (Northern New Englanders are too cheap for the 502A option, although that option has heated seats!)
Rog
Let us assume I ordered a car before the deadline. The car, while being delivered, falls off the delivery truck and is totaled. Ford sends me another one.
Does this mean my tax credit for the car I finally receive is not available?
Remember the rule: when in doubt, read the IRS rule in your favor.
Rog
Wonder if having the battery pack integrated into the back seat effects why the back passenger side impact and rollover ratings are not 5 star.
Well done Ford! You will be rewarded when it comes time to purchase a new car!