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question for anyone, is paying the extra 2k to step up to the IV to get the leather seats worth it??
I read in the WSJ that you can get $1,000 off.
The fully loaded Prius was a waste as the 4 electronic gadgets are not worth $3,000.
The leather seats are nice, as are the NAV and BT gadgets.
I would prefer the NAV and BT with or without the solar alternative.
Back to Prius III - a car that I think has the best feel-good karma to me than said a Benz S65 AMG
you are right but my comments were directed at the person from Ca. with his heartless comments against the hard working people from the UAW. They didn't get GM in the mess they were in it was management and Wall Street. I'm betting that person wouldn't last a day on the line in ANY auto plant, American or Foreign. Now back to the Prius.
Re: discounts - This seems to only work in larger markets. I had a friend shopping for a Prius in a college town, in which there's only one dealer who carries the Prius. No negotiation possible. She tried to cross-shop the Fusion hybrid, and they were out of hybrids long ago.
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I don't see any "personal attacks," though the conversation got slightly sidetracked. As a side note, please don't type posts in "text message" - we're not a cell phone.
you are right but my comments were directed at the person from Ca. with his heartless comments against the hard working people from the UAW. They didn't get GM in the mess they were in it was management and Wall Street. I'm betting that person wouldn't last a day on the line in ANY auto plant, American or Foreign. Now back to the Prius.
I consider the above to be a fair indication of "possible" mileage, but not to be expected in "normal" driving. OK, the facts: Yellowstone Park is fairly flat, and the posted speed limit is 45 MPH, which I did not exceed. Right in the "ideal" range for mileage. I made no special effort to maximize mileage, except whenever I came to a downhill, I did take it out of cruise control, and tried to stay in the "glide" zone shown on the Hybrid Monitoring Indicator screen. The A/C was operated about 40% of the time; the traffic was heavy, and at times it was stop and go. I did not inflate the tires over and above the pressure that was delivered to me by the dealer. I accelerated normally, certainly not excessively fast, but not slow either. When approaching a stop sign, or stopped traffic, I coasted to a stop where possible (there were motorist behind me)(the park was crowded). Today I left West Yellowstone, and drove 65 mph home, with a stretch of about 50 miles at 70 mph. I used cruise control and ran the A/C; I passed whenever approaching slower traffic.
I know that driving 35-45 mph is not normally possible for 300 or more miles, but it does illustrate what is "possible" under (close to) idea conditions. Incidentally, the design that permits the A/C to be operable without the engine running is a major factor. What a fantastic design feature that is.
BTW, I have no special abilities, nor made special efforts. I think anyone that would follow the simple conservative habits identified above could achieve the same results.
Happy motoring.
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I did install a Fumato oil drain plug as I do on every new car I get. The simple twist action just makes it easier for Do It Yourselfers.
The engine comes on for a short time at first, probably to charge the traction battery.
It also reloads the still warm radiator coolant from the thermos jug. No need to warm up the Prius.
Most reporters still don't get it. It gets most of it's economy from the DIRECT drive of the small ICE engine which is fine for city driving and most highway cruising. Aerodynamic styling, light components and regenerative braking add to the economy. It gets it's good performance from the fast acting intermittant boost of the electric motors when accelerating, passing or climbing "short" hills. The DIRECT HSD is more efficient than generating and using electricity 100% of the time.
Sold my 2007 BMW 335i and am more ecstatic about my Prius than the BMW. No kidding. Just a short time ago as a BMW driver I was swearing at all slow drivers and now I just love going on the slow lane and enjoying the scenery.
For the first time in my life I dont want any other car than the car I am driving right now. And believe it or not I am almost getting the EPA mileage though I am not quite there yet.
It still takes time to transform a lead footed BMW driver into a feather footed Prius driver. My only regret is that I did not buy a Prius sooner.
Pardon my praises but I am still at the 10th day of my honeymoon with my car.
Why? Because they felt it was more of a performance car.
That makes no sense whatsoever! Both the Insight and the Prius are lame performance cars. That is like comparing a BMW 335i and a Audi S4 and picking the BMW mainly because it has better fuel consumption . :confuse:
In my particular case I would sacrifice speed/perfromance/driving dynamics for low mileage in my Prius anyday. Otherwise I would have kept my BMW!
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oil/filters every 5K or 6 mos
air filters @ 30K, 60K, 90K, 120K etc
inverter coolant drain replace @ 100K
spark plugs replace @ 120K - 150K as needed
The rest of the items like tires wipers and alignments are 'wear' items
You may not have to replace the brakes - EVER
The hybrid Ford Focus is a great car but similar to the hybrid Camry if not much better. Both are designed primarily as non-hybrid sedans to accomodate a much smaller battery. So space efficiency is not as good as a Prius whose design for a hybrid system is not a after-thought.
You and I are among the rare ones in North America who likes Hatchbacks. One of my favorite cars of my past was a 88 Acura Integra. Driving a hatchback now brings back good memories.
My 2010 Prius has auxilary input for my MP3 player.
Just like you I love the Prius for its new technology , fuel frugality and for the similar politcial reasons you had stated (though I am Canadian and high fuel prices does benefit my country)
But for me it's more than just that.
I got so many speeding tickets driving my BMW. So fast cars are a no-no for me right now.
Also my BMW 335i was serviced 32 times in 32 months because of malfunctions.(some of them recurring many times over again). After this reliability became my top priority especially since I own a 83 MB300D that my father bought 26 years ago and it still keeps on going and going and going.
I referred to Consumers Report and JD Power surverys and the one car that stood out in terms of reliability is the Prius. Also there are quite a few Prius taxis with very high mileage and no major issues especially battery issues.
The thing I like about the Prius is no run-flat tires and front wheel drive. With my rear wheel drive BMW equipped with 8 tires (snow + summer) I ended up with a car that needed 8 new tires (17' winter and 18' summers) after two years at a cost of 800 Canadian $ each (abut $750 US). No kidding. Also my snow tires got me stuck so many times in the snow that I know every Good Samaritan in Toronto who will give a shove to a stuck car.
So that basically sums up the reasons why I have a metallic blue 2010 Prius on my driveway.
i could not agree with you more. My choices were 2010 prius or 2009 Lexus IS 250. dont take me wrong, I still like the lexus because I still have one, but after considering all the factors like you mentioned in your prior post, I now have a white 2010 prius IV in my driveway,
I was able to use an LG GR500 as a BT phone, and an ipod 2G as a BT streaming device, works fine. All audio from the ipod (pandora/game/ipod/video) is sent to the Prius BT audio.
Found out toyota has a website that shows all the phones that are and are not compatible with the bluetuth systems in each car. I think its something close to toyotaletstalk,com try that site to see if your phone is able to work properly with your cars bluetoothe system.
I had to buy a phone i didnt want and add a line to my plan for 10 bucks a month just to have a phone that worked well with my prius. The phone was free for signing up for two years so for 10 extra dollars a month my problem was fixed.
I called and talked to tech support from my provider and from the manufacturer and it came down to the fact that not all phones work with it unfortunately. Goodluck I hope this helps you.
My solution wasnt the one I wanted but it was either use the goofy in your ear run of the mill bluetoothe or find a phone that worked with my car. So i chose to pay to take advantage of all the cool features my car had to offer.
There's not even a usb in the car so I figured to hear my music over the car speakers I would have to get a wire to plug into the aux jack. But I think doing it that way does not allow you to change tracks, etc. I listen to audio books and I wold like to be able to pause/rewind when I'm getting a call or getting out of the car.
For your iphone situation, I have heard of other people having trouble listening to music and getting calls from the one device. Google "iphone prius 2010" and I'm sure the articles I've read will pop right up. Hope you find a solution!
Follow-up on using the iPhone for both streaming audio and phone: I upgraded the firmware to 3.0.1 and now I can have both connections, but the phone keeps dropping out and has to reconnect, the audio doesn't seem to be effected.
The most stable configuration is using a separate phone and audio device. It's pretty cool, I have my keyfob, ipod and phone in my pockets; push start, then my ipod starts playing through the car audio where it last left off and phone is connected and ready to use.
IWhen and if updated software becomes available, is it uploaded from the CD?
Does anyone have any idea who the author of the software is?
I have owned a Gramen GPS for years, and did live in a rural area .... I understood that new streets were not shown, and why. I now live in a Utah city, and many major streets, that have existed for perhaps 100 years, and not shown. I wondered if the datbase supplied with a new car, was .... like a new computer, a sample program, that required the purchaser to pay extra for the full program.
Thanks again.