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1221 .... $21750 vs Not Avail
1223 .... $22750 vs $23300 Pkg 2
1225 .... $23750 vs $24500 Pkg 4
1225 .... $25500 vs $25200 Pkg 5 ( w/ Navi )
1225 .... $27300 vs Not Avail ( Navi + SR )
1227 .... $26500 vs Not Avail ( Leather No Navi )
1227 .... $28300 vs $26300 Pkg 6 ( Leather w/ Navi )
1227 .... $30100 vs Not Avail ( Leather, Navi, SR )
1229 .... $28000 vs Not Avail
1229 .... $19800 vs Not Avail
1229 .... $32500 vs Not Avail
The high volume lower priced models are ultra competitive vs the 2009s....not to mention the Insight II. Currency issues have mostly disappeared it seems.
The TCH was a very roomy economy car. I think I would miss power seats as me and the Missus are different heights. The 35 mpg vrs 50 mpg is not really that big of a deal financially, even if gas goes to $3.50.
But I know I like having the latest technology and like the "smugness" of obtaining 50mpg. The Ford Fusion would give me the technology. Possibly reliable, but I KNOW the TCH is reliable from past experience.
My dealer is trying to line up a 2010 Prius V like I spec'ed as their first delivery
Decisions, decisions.....
I consistently run mine down to the last 'bar'. At that time there is a 2 gal reserve. So at that time I fill up with 9.5 gal or so. That means on the trip meter that I've gone between 400 miles ( winter ) and 525 miles ( summer ). 47.9 lifetime average in 111,000 mi. You know the terrain and the route I take.
To many this is shocking but accurate. The current Gen 2 might be the best built vehicle that Toyota has ever sent here. Several hundred thousand miles seems well within the capability of any of the Gen 2's.
Maintenance is minimal. The brakes may never need replacement. The vehicles over 200,000 miles are still slip sliding away at 47-52 mpg day-in and day-out. The batteries and the electric motors are better than the Energizer bunny ever imagined.
On PriusChat they are saying the JBL and NAV versions of the 2010 will be satellite radio "ready" with a 90 day trial subscription to XM. I believe they are even quoting "Team Prius". I'm new there so I don't really know the various members yet. There is a lot of knowledge there but there is also a lot of BS speculation that is passed off as fact (like the huge benefit of nitrogen in tires).
I don't see this anywhere in the literature. In fact the 2010 literature reads pretty much like the 2007 and 2009 literature from my TCH and HH and that is:
New literature says "integrated satellite radio capability" and the old literature simply says "satellite radio capability".
Am I missing something or did Toyota take this an extra step in 2010 and add the XM actually built into the radio? Past experience is making me skeptical of their claims, although I'm hoping they are correct as I plan to have NAV and would like XM if all I have to do is pay the subscription.
That is what I am expecting with my new vehicle.
satellite radio 'capable' - means that with the addition of an antenna and receiver that XM can be added.
satellite radio 'ready' ( 90 day trial ) - means that the antenna and receiver are already installed and that there is a very limited 90 day trial of a few stations.
I think that all the JBL systems in the future will be satellite 'ready'. Some such as the new 2010 Camry have a USB port installed also.
Someone on PriusChat today did show specs that showed the tuner was included and that there was a 90 day trial. However I don't know where they got the info, though it looked official. One article from the preview mentioned it as well. But the Toyota website brocheur simply called it capable, which is the same terms used in the past and I know those radios required the tuner being added.
Seems like Toyota is missing an opportunity by not pointing this out if true. Many people complain about the JBL and NAV costs but if they add the tuner they become more reasonable in cost.
I see the USB will be available in Sept on the new Prius.
Has anyone read anything about improved seats in the 2010 Prius?
Might cloth seats be more comfortable than leather?
Might an upholstery shop improve the seating comfort?
Has anyone else found the same complaint?
2. Instantly as I started to back up and not proceeding more than about 18 inches we heard a loud explosive sound accompanied by a tremor and shattering glass. I immediately shut off the engine and we both exited the vehicle. We discovered that the right rear pressurized gas strut catapulted with such force through the rear hatchback trunk lid window shattering the glass on its trajectory towards the garage door, the impact of the strut damaged the metal railing of the door making the garage door inoperable. Had anyone been in the path of the strut they could have been killed. The rear trunk lid did not collide with any part of the garage door - the back of the vehicle was at least two feet inside the open garage door. There were no injuries but it was a close call for us. We had both just moments before and moments apart passed in front of the same path from where the strut exited the rear trunk lid window.
3. Upon my insistence the vehicle was towed to our Toyota dealer's garage for inspection and eventually repaired. I have most of the old parts at my home.
Note: There was no fire involved in this incident but the damage caused by the strut is identical to ones caused by struts being involved in a fire. I was informed that this never happened before.
The complaint listed above is to warn automobile consumers of a potentially dangerous incident that could possibly happen to owners of any make of vehicle that has a hatchback with pressurized gas struts controlling the movement of the rear trunk lid door. The complaint has been posted by me for the purpose of obtaining feedback from vehicle owners who may have had a similar experience. Your collective feedback could help save lives or serious injuries.
Bela 1
I look with interest to see if this is largely an under-reported or erroneous incident.
What is particularly remarkable about this problem is that the struts that support the hatch, when the lid is closed, are parallel to the hatch glass. Also the struts are nearly horizontal, since the hatch is so steeply raked. And the struts are locked down by bolts at each end, plus are constrained within the metal channel between the hatch opening and C pillar. So the amount of force exerted by these struts must be incredible, to launch the strut out of its restraining bolts and out of the steel channel, and somehow push through the glass hatch. I never knew these struts had so much power in them. I own three vehicles with such struts now, so I will pay more attention to them in the future.
That being said it's absolutely a personal issue/preference. The Prius is not a luxury vehicle so it is not as smooth and quiet as say an Avalon or any Bimmer or Caddy, but it is quiet in its own way. The seating is definitely personal because each of us had different strains and pressures. I find this Gen 2 to be the most comfortable vehicle I've ever had after a Chrysler LHS, 4 Camry's, a Solara Convertible. I can ride for hours with no adjustments, it just fits me perfectly.
Our Highlander is more comfortable though.
As for the 2010, one reviewer called the ride a "substantial" feeling. Solid and Lexus like and he noted the vastly improved seating as well as the new vertical adjustment and the tilt and telescopic steering wheel to further help with driver comfort. I found the 2009 as a "marginal" nice ride but consider it an economy car so it is as good as any in that class. I'm really expecting the 2010 to at least equal my satisfaction with my Camry Hybrid so I am looking forward to my new ride to arrive!
Allegedly Toyota has 75,000 preorders on the Gen3 ( mostly Japan I'd presume ).
I can't wait!
There seem to be plenty of dealers selling at MSRP. A few in CA reported asking well over but no one on Prius Chat so far (will admit to) paying over MSRP. Some dealers are adding options at high fees, but it doesn't appear that is wide spread.
I looked at Fitzmall today and they have the new Camaro marked over MSRP so it appears everyone will try what they can get for a new introduction.
I like the new Prius and I dont hear much if any problems with this vehicle, however, i saw on other website & chat rooms about this vehicle and lots are complaining about the costs to replace the battery, and they are a lot of prople that need to replace the battery after apprx 120k miles. the battery replacement costs apprx $3000 - $6000.
I'm guessing you saw those comments on chat rooms NOT about the Prius. Non-Prius fans / Prius Haters (and there seem to be a lot for some reason) are still telling this same old story even after years of reliability on record. If you go to the Prius chat rooms/blogs you'll see that NO ONE is complaining about the costs of replacing the batteries, especially not at 120,000 miles, because no one is needing to replace them. In the CAFE states the battery is warranted for 150,000 miles. Others is 100,000. However as Bob will probably soon respond the batteries in the Taxi's for Prius and Ford are lasting well over 200,000 miles with no noticible loss of charge.
I have a 2010 on order. I currently have a Highlander Hybrid and had a Camry Hybrid before that. I plant to have the HH and a Prius for my everyday use. May or may not keep the Expedition for towing and travel.
Your info on replacing the battery is about 5 yrs old. And .... there are NOT 'lots of people complaining about the costs to replace the battery.'
Either you are misreading the posts or you are intentionally misrepresenting what others have said. This subject was put to rest 3 yrs ago. There is so much misinformation in your post with no actual correct info that it appears that you're being a troll. Trolls belong under bridges.
But in case I'm wrong, and I apologize, and you simply haven't done any research at reliable sources:
The batteries NEVER need to be replaced.
If you had done research on the subject then you would have found that Toyota told the public that they had replaced 0.0025% of the batteries. That's ONE in 40,000.
In addition the cost of a replacement is published all over the internet...$2588 at full retail cost.
The warranty in many states is 10 yrs or 150,000 miles...so where did you get 120K from?
Wow, I would have thought they sold enough GM's to stay in the family. Their pricing is sure a lot better than the Cadillac dealers around here (who won't even talk with me half the time). I have noticed lately though their selection of GM is low and they don't seem to be adding to it. Maybe I'll still be able to pick up a CTS cheap ;o) The last three cars I bought I started at the cadillac dealer, usually get ticked off and come to my senses and buy a Toyota.
I've used their pricing as a negotiating tool for my dealer, although he knows I want to deal locally. I've told him I want him to stay in business but he does have to deal with me fairly. He's only got about half the normal level of Toyota's right now and they are moving a lot of used cars currently.
With a recession, low gas prices, and the Insight, it is a great time to get a new Prius.
I know we are all keenly interested in the arrival of the 2010's. Anyone with information, please share same with us all.
I have driven several of the 2nd generation ones and did not like them near as well as a Honda Civic Hybrid and I have driven many of them doing dealer transfers. Prius does get a little bit better mileage. I wonder did Toyota get rid of the dumb bladder type fuel tank on the new 2010 ones? That was just one deal breaker for me. Having been interested in Hybrids, I bought a 2005 Civic Hybrid after trying both and have never been disappointed in my buy, absolutely no trouble in 40k. Soon be time to get a new car and am looking, but not in a hurry, I still have 3 years left on my never used extended warranty. I am NOT one of the misinformed tree huggers like Algore who will lie for money..you know cap and trade, the sky is falling clown who just happens to stand to get rich with his ponzi scheme(carbon credits). I do like not buying gas though, even if I do spend a little more for my vehicle (was the case with Honda) Not the case with the more expensive Prius..too much more money there!
The new Prius II starts at $22750.
Yes the bladder is gone on the 2010s
Maybe in California will you have to pay 35K for a loaded Prius but that would be well over MSRP. Besides, why complain about the Prius being overpriced when you're obviously looking at a car with options not even available on any other car for less than $50K. Price a Prius with the options you want and compare it to the Honda or whatever interests you. The fact that it offers some high dollar options is not a bad thing. You simply don't buy one with those options if they don't interest you.
My 2010 will be a shade over $30K with leather, Nav and the 17" wheels and LED lights. If I thought that was over priced I could easily forgo the wheels, LED's and NAV and get the car considerably cheaper. The options make this a more widely accepted car to the masses. Not everyone wants a stripped Insight.
Ford - 3,906
Honda - 4,857
Toyota - 14,846
GM - 1,739
Total - 25,348
I guess its the highest in this year. Probably Hybrids captured 2.8 % share.
For Ford, this is the record, seems Fusion/Milan Hybrids have sold very well.
Also Ford retained #2 share in US market pushing Toyota to #3 place.
For Toyota, Prius was launched only on May-18 and so its only a partial month, expect more stronger sales in June.
Honda sold 2,780 Insights, not as much as expected, although in Japan, they are selling well. As the gas prices increase, its sales may increase.
Nissan's hybrid sales are yet to be published.
Conclusion : Ford learnt to make and sell Hybrids.
Insight is not a match for Prius in USA, but its a match in Japan.
We were getting close to 50 MPG with 2005 Prius and I can’t wait to get the new Prius for my wife so we can compare the two over the same route. The Toyota dealer said mid July but I hope it is sooner.
Seriously I've been in the old Prius and they are fairly roomy. The luggage space on the 2010 is supposed to be about 21+ cu ft which is 2 cu ft bigger than my existing trunk.