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Good luck Susan with your search and keep us posted.
The Sandman :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
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I've put about 3,500km on my new 2010 Corolla. No regrets at all! The car drives like a dream. I've only driven Toyota, 1 Tercel, 2 2002 Corolla's and now a 2010 Corolla.
The Corolla rides well in a strong wind. This happened a few weeks ago on the highway in a strong wind. Didn't notice anything different from my lower profile 2002 Corolla.
Today, while driving along the highway at night, I had to swerve suddenly. Looked like a roll of carpet or something large was obstructing the one lane. I saw the car in front of me swerve. Didn't know why. Almost as it got out of the way, I saw the obstacle on the road. I swerved too, consciously being aware not to over-steer back into the lane. I recall the Vehicle Stability Control activating with its beep beep sound. This all happened in a second or two. I avoided the obstacle and maintained control of my car. Forget how fast I was going but it was a highway so maybe 110 km/hr or so. I'm not sure if the VSC helped but I sure heard it being activated. Maybe the electronic power steering helped too, making it very easy to steer quickly.
The electronic power steering is extremely noticeable when you're parking and need to bring the steering wheel back.....like butter.
Now that I have driven the Corolla for over a month, I don't notice any of the negative points noted in the Edmunds review of the 2009 model. I'm not a test car driver so obviously I am not aware of how other makes and models drive and compare to the 2010 Corolla. I've rented a Chevy Cobalt, PT Cruizer and one other make recently. This car drives like any other car I have driven. As well, it's a quiet ride too. Quieter than my 2002. I can hear the subtleness in the vocals of a CD track while driving at highway speeds.
The only thing that bugs me is that the headrest doesn't stay all the way down. I push it all the way down. There must be a way to keep it down. Other than that, nothing bad to say about the 2010 Corolla. A great drive. Well, the backend is a bit higher than my 2002. Love the trunk, quite spacious. Wish there weren't those 2 bumps on the surface of the trunk nearer the passenger compartment but I'll just have to place things better.
Toyota will get past this and move on selling great vehicles just like all the other brands. Personally, I'd have no trouble owning a Toyota or Ford or GM...etc. If a company makes a vehicle that we like within our $ constraints, we'll by it. Modern vehicles have all come so far these past few years, we're finally at the point that we'd look at all brands as of now...and buy what fits our list of needs...end of story!
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Yuri Kageyama / Associated Press
Tokyo -- Toyota is considering a recall of its hot-selling Corolla subcompact after complaints about power steering problems -- another blow to the world's largest automaker already reeling from a string of recalls for safety problems.
Company President Akio Toyoda, meanwhile, said he won't be attending the U.S. congressional hearing on the automaker's safety lapses, entrusting the job to U.S.-based executives -- though he did say he would consider appearing if summoned. He said he wanted to focus his energies on improving quality worldwide.
"I trust that our officials in the U.S. will amply answer the questions," Toyoda told reporters Wednesday. "We are sending the best people to the hearing, and I hope to back up the efforts from headquarters."
He said Yoshi Inaba, who heads Toyota Motor Corp.'s North American unit, was more familiar with the U.S. situation and was the best executive to deal with the hearing. Toyoda said he was still making plans to go to the U.S. and dates have yet to be set.
But in an alarming disclosure that could widen Toyota's recall crisis, the Toyota executive in charge of quality controls, Shinichi Sasaki, said Toyota was taking seriously the complaints about power-steering problems in the Corolla, the world's best-selling car.
Sasaki said drivers may feel as though they were losing control over the steering, but it was unclear why. He mentioned problems with the braking system or tires as possible underlying causes of the steering problem.
There have been fewer than 100 complaints, the automaker says.
Speaking at Toyota's Tokyo office, Sasaki said it was still uncertain if a Corolla recall would be necessary but the automaker is considering one. The number of affected vehicles is unclear, he said.
The company was putting customers first in a renewed effort to salvage its reputation and would do whatever is necessary if a fix is needed, he said.
Toyota has recalled 8.5 million vehicles globally during the past four months because of problems with sticking gas pedals, floor mats trapping accelerators and faulty brake programming.
Reports of deaths in the U.S. connected to sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles have surged in recent weeks, with the alleged death toll reaching 34 since 2000, according to new consumer data gathered by the U.S. government.
Yes, the 2010 Corolla is a quiet ride especially in the city but at highway speeds I'm sure other makes can be even quieter. I'm not complaining and it's much quieter than my 2002.
While I'm at it, after I use the windshield fluid and the wipers have had a go, the water on the sides start to streak up and outwards due to the air blowing on the windshield when traveling at a high speed. I found that annoying and did not notice it on the 2002. I'm no engineer but maybe it has something to do with the slope of the windshield and hood of the car. The hood on the 2010 car is noticeably steeper than the 2002 so currents of air flowing over it may be of a different dynamic than on the 2002.
Aside from these very minor annoyances, I am very happy with the 2010 Corolla and feel great about the car every time I get into it (hey, it's only been 1 1/2 months....I'll get over it eventually :-)
Perhaps you might want to post your (#141) oppinion of the steering on the EPS forum, I get blasted on there when I offer my 2009 Corolla approval.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1d0fdf/120
This is a public forum and just about anyone can post here, including myself of course. Which means people can say just about anything. I participate on a few other forums (none are car related other than this one). You'll have to use the gray matter between the ears to try and figure out what's legit and what's not. I only had a chance to take a quick look at the link but if I were that person, I would have done something about it a loooooong time ago instead of just posting here. I don't care if it's a Toyota, Honda, Chevy, Ford or whatever brand.
My experience with the new car has mostly been with Michelin snow tires. I've only driven maybe 400+ kilometers with the original tires the car came with (forget if they were summer or 4 seasons now). It will soon be time to put the winter tires away.
Now back to the 2010 Corolla. Since I've been driving a 2002 for close to 8 years I haven't been car shopping or keeping up with the style changes in the Corolla until my recent purchase. I notice the tachometer and speedometer have switched sides. I preferred having the speedometer on the left as I could glance at it more readily without having to take my eyes off the road.
I like how they have redesigned the shifter. Very neat. The 2002 had a straight shifter so it was easy to move the car before Drive or Reverse was fully engaged. The new design prevents that which is a great idea. I'm not sure in which model year they first implemented that design.
Although I don't use it much as mine is normally set to the outside air temp, it's still nice to have those litres per kilometer (in the USA I imagine it would be gallons per mile) stats, etc.
The two small overhead lamps in the front....very useful and bright too. No longer having to reach for a flashlight to read something.
One of the best new features is the TPMS or Tire Pressure Monitoring System. I've always wanted a car with that. Over the past 8 years or so, I've had about 4 occasion where the pressure in one of the tires has gone quite low. Each one was due to a foreign object (a nail or similar object) puncturing the tire. Each one was a slow leak so low pressure in the tire was not visually obvious. A tire can get very low in pressure before you will notice it visually. So this TPMS is well worth having.
Please let me know if any one faces similar issues. Started contacting the NHTSA about the incident;
So be aware that when Toyota asks to inform to your insurance company, just inform and ask the company to wait until Toyota finishes its detail testing. This is a new car, with 1850 miles on this and why should we pay for Toyota mistakes. I requested to talk to the case manger's supervisor and she refuse that and says she is the head of the unit and she operates independently. This is my first Toyota car and I believe Toyota is not customer friendly at all.
Does anyone know how to read a vin # to see if Corolla's were made from this plant? thx lG
LOS ANGELES, Aug. 29, 2009
Whistleblower:“Nummi management routinely deleted or downgraded significant and serious defects.”
"steering wheel alignment defects" (NUMMI) factory subjected her to a campaign of intimidation
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/whistleblowe...
Toyota Accused of Hiding Evidence
Former Lawyer at Automaker Charges Evidence in Rollover Cases Was Concealed, Destroyed
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/29/cbs ...
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php ...
Whistleblower says defects hidden at Toyota-GM Calif. plant
Yuri Kageyama / Associated Press
TOKYO -- An employee at a California plant run jointly by General Motors and Toyota is accusing her managers of allowing serious defects to go unchecked, including faulty seat belts and braking, and retaliating when she resisted, according to a lawsuit filed earlier this month.-
The dealership is useless. They do not want to give loaner cars, and I have had to pay for car rentals. They even refused to get my car towed the first acceleration incident. The last acceleration incident on Feb. 15th, they checked out the car and said it is fine. Their exact words were "It drives like all other Corollas. It is normal for Corollas to accelerate to 80 MPH" If I were you I would get myself a good lawyer, and keep hounding the dealership. Do not back down and take their crap!
So let me get this straight, your dealer said "it is normal for Corollas to accelerate to 80 MPH" ? I'm sorry but I don't see a dealership opening themselves with that kind of response. When you called Toyota did they agree that their cars normally "accelerate to 80 MPH"? If not, didn't they want the dealers name that said this?
Today morning I reached my son to school in my new 2010 corolla S purchased in Dec 09. I was approaching the intersection and was around 50 ft away from the suv which was stopped at the red light. The road was a gentle decline. I was driving around 20-25 mph and from 50 ft started to gently apply the brakes. When the car reached around 10 ft away from the suv in front of me the brake pedal was fully depressed but the car just didnt stop. It kept rolling till it hit the suv. I had a fender bender. Took the car to Toyota dealer, they drove it around the dealership and said everything was ok. I insisted that it was the fault in the brakes and this was my first accident in my 28 yrs of driving. I had driven cars without ABS and brake assist in snow conditions and never faced such a problem. I have written to NHTSA and spoke to Toyota customer service. Said their case manager will get back in two days. I have hardly a 1000 miles on my car. Imagine if I was on the highway and this was to happen. It would be a fatality for the whole family.
■Rudolph Monteiro on February 10th, 2010 9:15 pm
Have you all guys who got into similar incidents with their braking put in a complaint to NHTSA or spoken to their insurance companies? The dealers of Toyota will always claim that it was snow or ice or our driving which was not good etc that led to this incident
I think all such Corolla owners should get legal help if Toyota doesnt repair the damage at their expense.
I bought the new Corolla based on my experience with the '94 Corolla. I didn't realize that Toyota's response to competition from Korean autommakers was to cut quality. Look very closely before you buy!
I had a service manager look at it and he immediately blamed the tinting on the window. Anything is possible of course but I knew this would be absurd if true. What car manufacturer do you know of who would build a car that you couldn't tint the window? None that I know of. No car window has that sort of unforgiving tolerance. No one engineers a car window to do that. Besides the fact tint is so thin and practically bonded to the window glass and is smooth that any added perceived extra "thickness" is insignificant. But it's always easier to blame a problem on the "other guy".
I've also had previous Corolla's tinted and had absolutely no problem. And I'll bet no other person has had such a problem either. Maybe if someone did a do-it-yoursdelf tint job and the tint bubbled up....perhaps then.
The manager was just trying to be helpful so he rolled up his sleeve and tried to see what he could do to help. I appreciated this and its' very good service. However, in doing so he or someone else ended up nicking the tint. Problem is no one said anything. But I quickly saw the damage (can't help it, the damage was staring me in the face and it being a new car, I'd notice that for sure). Once I brought it to their attention they agree to pay to get it replaced.
I'm not mentioning what city or dealer because it's not necessary. As many people already know, just be aware of what your car looked like before it goes in for service and check it afterward. Even take videos before bringing the car in if needed. The dealer has a very good reputation so I know they stand by their work and customers.
I'm starting to wonder about QA at the factory. Sure, people can have a bad day. The top of my front dash is not level on both sides. You can see the edge on one side has a very noticeable gap. Initially, both edges (driver side and passenger side) of the top dash had a blue dot/ink just at the level of the top of the dash. I was told that the technicians at the factory use these 2 blue dots to level the top of the dash. I mean, it appears the car left the factory with the dots still on the car (as opposed to being wiped off) next to the dash and the dash obviously not level. Not sure how that passed inspection.
The only thing I could think of is that maybe someone broke into the car to steal one of the airbags and they had to repair it. I hear that airbags are a popular theft item nowadays.
Keep in mind people roll their windows up and down thousands of times during the life of the car. They roll it up and down when it's raining, snowing, when it's windy, etc. During this action dirt or even ice in winter can't help but be dragged down into the crevice or stick to the sides of the window or sides of the rubber seal. Engineers take all this into account when designing the window unit. The added "thickness" of a sheet of tint is insignificant when compared to the above. I can always write to Toyota and ask them. I don't think there is any need to do that. But the subject has me intrigued now (because I never heard about tint being a problem) so I may ask a number of people such as mechanics and other people in the business, etc. I personally know a mechanic at a Honda dealership. I'll be interested in knowing if he's ever encountered a similar problem during all the years he's been at this. I may learn something.
I would like to hear from others who may have had a problem with a rubber window seal/guard that was the result of tint (professionally applied of course). Particularly if you have a more recent model.