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Basically the Tribeca was built on that assembly line, and Subaru had hoped it would do enough volume to justify a dedicated line for that model.
Tribeca did not meet sales targets, so SIA started making Camrys on that line, and moved the Tribeca to share a line with the Legacy and Outback.
Of course, if Toyota sales drop due to all the bad press, it's possible Subaru takes that line back and builds enough to actually meet demand.
Who knows how many they could sell if they had enough 3.6R models. I don't think they can get more 5EATs from Japan quickly enough to expand production significantly.
The dealer "ordered" a silver 3.6R Premium, no moonroof, for me on Dec 1. Just this week they got confirmation that it WILL be built, and MAYBE it would show up in April. I decided I was tired of waiting, and that in conjunction with the fact that if you get one with the shakes they don't seem to know how to fix it, I bought another Forester instead. So far I am pleased with my decision, and saved a bunch of money.
After 3 Foresters I wanted something different, mostly so my old back can get in and out easier. The increased size of this generation Forester is nice, and I don't bang myself on the B post anymore. It isn't easy being large... and old.
Time to kick the Camry out of SIA...
Blame Ernie Boch - you know his company owns S of NE.
Check this site out they have been posting thir findings with the HK with nav settings.
http://www.legacygt.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=92
As for the Steering vibration, the tires were balanced as one was off a bit. The service manager took it out at 70MPH and said it was fine. I took it out , and again at speeds above 65, my hand feels a vibration and actually shakes slightly . There does not seem to be good isolation between the road and steering wheel. I will return again to service later this month. has anyone with the issue as well found a fix. i do like the car very much in many ways over the 2009 Forester that I had.
Thanks for any comments and help
I actually wax my rims to keep ice from sticking and throwing them off balance.
2010, 2009, 2008: all models
2007: all expect Basic (steel wheel) model
2006: 3.0R models
The Subaru website shows it as a $398 accessory.
And make sure they note the purchase / installation on the original sales invoice so that it's covered under the full factory warranty. I believe items installed after delivery (not included on sales invoice) normally only have a 1 year warranty.
It's the salesman / dealer's fault ... someone has to pay and it shouldn't be you.
Good Luck.
If you purchase an extended warranty from SOA, you have the same concern, as the extended warranty only covers accessories installed at purchase. Again, SOA would need to sign off on coverage under the extended warranty.
What a PIA for you.
If you haven't closed on the deal yet, (not clear from your posting) have them order the radio and install it before you sign the paperwork. Ask for a free loaner if you need a car.
This guy is a sorry excuse for a SALES man! I mean come on people, this is a car manufacturer that only sells FOUR MODELS in the US-5 if you consider Outback/Legacy as two models, and their options/accessories are pretty much "stand alones", not "packages" as many other mfgrs do. How hard is it to learn what is what in your offers?
This particularly frustrates me because I spent my working life in SALES. Customers always consdered me to be knowledgeable and honest, because I would often tell them; "I DON'T KNOW, but I'll find out". It didn't happen often because when I saw something in my manufacturers' catalogs that I didn't undertand or thought MIGHT be a customer question I would FIND OUT before I started calling on customers. If I were the sales manager at that store I probably be cutting that guys final check right now.
BTW, when I picked up my new Legacy a few months ago the sales guy (knowledgeable but young) told me to bring my car back during a day the shop was open so they could "program" my Homelink for me! I told him he really should study up on Homelink before he cost himself a sale by saying something stupid BEFORE the sale!
Not bad mileage for a new car and in-town driving.
easypar
I agree with you about the need to look things up or admit if you don't have the answer. I would not have thought less of him for admitting during the purchasing process that he was new at this.
The gas mileage is great and a smooth ride.
I was reviewing the outback reviews on Edmunds (If you scroll over to the three vehicles on the side of this page click on the 139 reviews of the Outback and scroll down to a review by HDN valley you will find this:
"After 3200 miles an alignment is the only warranty service performed. The toe-in was off both front and rear and caused the car to wander a lot at 65-70 MPH. "
Not sure if this is your problem but thought I would included it here.
Have you test driven them? Car mags can measure the amplitude of noise (decibels), but not the quality of the noise. That's more subjective.
Make sure you test both cars on the same highway in similar conditions.
Plenty of cars with folding mirrors are quiet.
Having said that, I saw a new Legacy sedan, Premium model I think, in that white pearlcoat, and it looked fantastic.
My buddy's dad got one.
I wanted satellite radio too but I wasn't willing to pay the after fact accessory cost plus installation. You ordered yours and you should get it. Nothing more or less should be acceptable if they are a reputable dealer. BTW let us know the dealer and salesman's name if they do not make this right. I will go out of my way to acknowledge good and exemplary service, and will do the same in reverse which means extra effort but it is always worth it for others.
It is easy to let them know what you like and what you dislike. Your complaint will carry more weight than the 10K customers who didn't bother.
I complained too about the lack of folding mirrors and external turn signal indicators and the removal of weather band radios that could save lives, as well as the lack of map net behind the the driver's seat. Why cut corners? $100 would have covered everything. Car manufacturers are foolish to be penny wise and pound foolish.
The presumtion is the driver would be the one reaching for a map most often so not having one on the back of the driver seat (where the driver couldn't reach) makes the most sense.
In my case even though I have the navigation, the co-pilot (often my wife) is the one normally reaching for maps or literature, and not having the net behind the driver makes it more difficult. Another thing needed is for the nav system to have an interlock override that allows it to be fiddled with when the vehicle is in motion when the passenger seat is occupied.
The alternative is to raise prices, which I'm sure would have been just fine with some folks here.
Your original post noted the mirrors, weather band and a couple of other things at a guesstimate cost of $100. In reality, those items would probably add $500-700 at retail. Keep in mind when discussing cost - it's more than the cost to make the item. Add in design, transportation, part support, computer space, order processing, et al. It adds up.
Car makers (just like all manufacturers) have to cut things in order to meet price targets. Heck I love the standard trip computer on my Passat but AFAIK, no VW comes with it anymore.
I can understand these deductions on the lesser models, but even on the top model, you don't get them.