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This issue only seems to affect 4 cylinder models, and as I have owned an 08 EX 4, and now an 09 EX V6, I can attest to this personally.
While the Accord is certainly not perfect, it has won Car and Driver's 10 best for 23 years for a reason.
The Accord offers the right balance of performance, handling, quality, and price.
For years, Honda cars have been praised for their mechanical quality and good value, yet consistently criticized for their high level of noise inside the cabin. It boggles the mind that Honda has refused to address this problem, which is such an easy and cheap fix.
The only reasoning I can think of, besides wanting to save on costs, is that Honda doesn't want its vehicles to become so sedate that they will be like all the "Toyota sofas" we see driving around.
Luckily Honda spent more money it seems on quality gas pedals than Toyota's silent yet speeding out of control automobiles
A quiet vehicle is not necessarily a sedate vehicle. There are many quiet cars out there that are ANYTHING but sedate. I'm thinking it is nothing more than another cost savings that is unacceptable, at least to me.
I bought a new Accord 2010 Lx 2.4 in March.
It is just 400 miles.
For some reason, my engine warm up time is too long. When I start engine, the rpm rises to 1500. It takes 5-6 minutes until rpm drops around 800. The temperature outside is around 40-60F thesedays. Isn't it too long warm up?
I have new Accord 2010 Lx 2.4 V4 since March.
Somehow, the warm up time of my car is 5-6mininutes.
I measured time from engine start until rpm reaches around 800.
Isn't it normal?
Second, when rpm is low (~800) and gear is in D or R.
I can hear some small noise from my engine. Just like helicopers, and my handle slightly shakes with that.
It just started after 200miles.
Is it normal?
I brought to the service center.
It seems that they just connect computers and say it is normal.
I think that they just try to ignore it.
Do yoiu guys also have the similar noise?
I replied to the specific thread you posted about your issue.
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We bought our 2010 EX-L V6 Accord in January and I have noticed something similar. Under sharp accelleration from about 20-25 mph, there is always a noticeable hesitation/bog before the car lunges forward. If I accellerate slowly, no hesitation. Maybe I should stop trying to accellerate quickly? Nah, it's too much fun!
When slowing, I can definitely feel the transmission downshifting as the car slows, which might feel like a hesitation.
FWIW, none of our other recent Honda V6s (2005 & 2008 Odysseys & a 2008 Ridgeline) had the hesitation during accelleration, but ALL of them had the noticeable downshift when slowing.
We also have a 2006 Odyssey. It does not do this. Well, if you really pay attention, you may feel a little when up- or down-shifting. In fact we bought the Accord based on our good experience with the Odyssey. But the hesitation in the Accord is so obivous that it bothers me. I called the dealer, they seemed to be surprised and asked me to bring it in for them to take a look. But most likely they will say it is normal. Did you ask about or have the dealer check out your car?
I will likely mention it whenever the car goes in for some servicing or some other problem. As I mentioned, we only feel the hesitation under hard or sharp accelleration--when we FLOOR IT--really put the pedal to the metal! Under normal driving, it doesn't hesitate.
The down-shifting "jerk" is most noticeable as the Accord (or any of the other vehicles I mentioned) are going down an incline/hill as we're heading to town, and we are slowing for the stoplight at the bottom of the hill. They all do/did it under those circumstances. In normal city driving on flat streets we don't notice it nearly as much and it isn't an intrusion in the otherwise enjoyable driving experience.
Please let us know what your dealer says about it, as that will likely be what the rest of us will hear too.
Perhaps this will help me, as I will be in the market for a new car and a loaded accord could be had at exceptional deal! Of course knowing me, I would want the new design, but there is no way a new model Accord would be remotely a good deal. Not willing to overspend on a new model.
I am thinking a 2010 Accord EX-L V6 Navigation-
I think it is needed, because the Accord is looking a bit dated already, when being compared to other flashier looking cars in this segment. I am hoping they will learn from this and design a more contemporary model. People would appreciate it.
Obviously the transmission is computer controlled to upshift quickly & downshift slowly.
I have to admit the 06-07 still looks classy to me. Though, I am biased as I used to drive one. The interior and exterior is a nice mix of class. I truly miss that 4cyl engine. That was an engine that wanted to roll. I had a silver SE with tinted windows, black cloth. It was such a classy car and with minimal cost for it. I was proud of that car!!
I do know what you mean when choosing design over quality and function. Making too quick of decisions. But, its just a car, I have about 6mth left, then I have to think about my next car!!
Does anyone know how to disable this announcement? :confuse:
Other than that, no complaints
I am trying to see how many of you who own alabaster silver accord have the painting issue as I have and what you think of it.
I have the mottling (zebra stripes or blotchiness) on hood, fenders, roof, and trunk. I do not have problem with the door panels and bumpers though. I also went to a local body shop and asked the painting guy an opinion. He said that the car was factory painted but should not look like that unless something went wrong.
So, it came out of the Ohio factory like this. Honda representative said there is nothing wrong with the painting in the pictures I sent and it is just the nature of the colour. But if it is the nature of the colour, why the door panels would not have it?
Let me know if you have silver and whether you have similar painting and whether you think it is normal. I need to know if this is common and normal.
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No, it sounds like you are describing a new Honda. They aren't what they used to be, but then neither are Toyotas. At least Hondas don't seem to suffer from unintended accelleration. LOL!
If you haven't taken your car to the dealer and let them try to fix these issues, you should do so. My dealer was able to fix some similar complaints we had on our 2008 Odyssey. Some, not all.
Their typical first responses are "that's normal", "I don't see what you see", and "I don't hear what you hear." Then, when it comes to the point that they have to admit, they say need to order parts, such as wool felt, telling me to come back later. Then, on my next visit they say "Honda is investigating on the issue", "the parts arrived but they were the wrong ones so come back again", "I did not see it last time". They finally replaced my driver side A-pillar molding for whistling noise on my fifth visit, which did not solve the problem but made the overall noise worse.
When I pointed out the painting problem, the service manager brought me another silver which was a demo vehicle and had the similar problem. I told him to show me another which is not demo car and he told me that it is the only silver he had. So, I went out to the parking lot found two silvers less than a minute that did not have vinyl cover on the hood and did not have pattern. Then, he told me since it won't be shown in the picture he would not be able to make claim at Honda. So, took the pictures in the earlier post and send them to him. Then, he said "it is the nature of the colour". So, I contacted Honda, and got a message that "the field manager saw the pictures but there is nothing wrong with the painting in those pictures and also the car at the parking lot that I saw had the same pattern. So, it was normal." It seemed to me that none of the people from dealer or Honda was honest, and they were determined to ignore the issue. I showed my car to a local body shop painter who had 15 yrs of experience, and he did not think it was normal while he thought the painting was factory job.
I also sent those pictures to Dupon automotive painting department, which I believe provides the accord paint, and they replied "This is not an issue with DuPont rather it is an issue with Honda. I don't see this is being normal in the color." So, they do not think it is the nature of the colour.
However, I want to know if this is really a common case with Accord and what Accord owners think about it. Then, if this is indeed common whether it is normal or bad, I would let it go. Otherwise, I need something to be done for this.
I do not think it is normal. At least my silver accord does not have the banding and I have never seen it on cars from any other car makers. As for whether it is common with Accord, here is an interesting story: When I was shopping for the car, I told the dealer I wanted a silver one. He told me the one he could get would have 300 miles on it. I said I did not want one with so many miles on it. He then went inside and came back to tell me he could get another silver one with only 50 miles. I said ok you get that one and then I made the deposit. A few days later the dealer called me saying the one with 50 miles had paint problem, and he was going to get me another one which would have less than 150 miles on it when he brought it to the dealership. But I did not ask what kind of paint problem the first car had.
However, there was a twist: when I went to pick up the car, it acually HAD 300 miles on the car, not 150 miles as I had been told. Now when I look back, I am not sure whether there was acutually a silver accord with paint problem or it was just dealer's tactics to get my businese.
I'm finding the lighter color interior easier to maintain than the black interior was. My dash vents have yet to blast out gobs of white dust as my 08 did. VCM activity is noticeable albeit much less than in my 08. Nice to see rear climate registers present as they should be in a car in this class. Bluetooth is welcome as well without the expense of their aging nav system.
Not one to usually make such a spur of the moment decision, especially when I was still happy with my 08, but things lined up just right and I'm happy with my decision. Will post thoughts and impressions over time. As the miles add up I'll keep my usual eye on fuel economy and general impressions and or differences that may become evident.
Acura has finally begun putting 6spd automatics into their models and more to come in the next 2-3 years but there are still models using the 5spd just like Honda does. I mean its sad because all of their competition have moved on to 6spd automatics or CVTs, while their luxury competition is on to 7 and 8spd automatics while Acura still has 5spd, so if you compared a Honda/Acura transmission to a Buick, Lexus, Infiniti, Nissan, Hyundai, MB, etc etc, they are all going to be much more efficient and smoother feeling then your equivalent 5spd antiquated Honda or Acura transmission!