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However, the debacle with the gas mileage still really ticks me off. I continue getting a lot lower than the EPA (avg 25 mpg) even though I am driving much more conservatively than usual and DID buy this car as a daily driver based on gas mileage as a big factor. Granted I live in an urban area with traffic and hills (San Fran Bay) but my last 3 cars have always met or exceeded their EPA numbers under the same driving (actually driving less conservatively). I can understand folks saying it is only 2 mpg and a few on this site are actually hitting the numbers. My 08 Lexus IS 250 only averages 2 mpg less in same driving. The point is Hyundai fudged the numbers and they deserve the bad press they are getting regardless of the spin they put on it. I will let it go since I refuse to take the $$ hit of getting rid of a new car but am upset that I bought the car with false info provided by Hyundai and the EPA can't be counted on to back it up. Granted only 2 car models (not brands) have been called on this in the past by the EPA but as a wise consumer I resent being manipulated by any corporation and when I find out about it they lose any future business and respect. Sorry Hyundai, I had been singing your praises before. Getting caught and offering minor reparations does not eliminate your manipulation of the buying public. Apparently, those of us who are pissed are not alone:
‘Burning up’ over Hyundai mileage misrepresentations - OC Watchdog : The Orange County Register
We both love the car and did not purchase for MPG. Still, you can't help but notice a 10% shortfall.
The Elantra is a terrible city car be glad you have more highway than city.
That is about 1 fill up or about 320 miles. If they were off by 2 mpg and are adding an additional 15% for inconvenience then I would think I should be getting back, at a minimum, enough to purchase 1000 miles of fuel.
I guess they are offering this as a cheaper alternative to facing lawsuits.
10 years ago Hyundai "mistated" horsepower ratings on the 2002 Santa Fe. Their mia culpa then was debit cards and 1-year increased warranty protection.
They are getting good at this, but we keep buying their products anyway.
You're right and I 100% agree. I wouldn't call that a reimbursement either. I'm really starting to be very disappointed with Hyundai. My first Hyundai was a 2010 Elantra in which the transmission blew a month & half after I bought it (brand new) and now this.
Most who experience higher mpg do so at higher sustained speeds.
Also be sure to reset your mpg before you test. The cars mpg is not point in time but a measurement since the last reset.
While i am sure the elantra can hit 36 to 40 (point in time), It cannot do so enough to counterbalance the terrible local mpg. Thus you do see a high mpg on the computer.
I drive 82 miles a day highway and my computer reads 28 to 29. Where's my 40?
They are going to have to step up with more than $9.98 in a lot of cases. I'd be interested in warranty extension. They did so in addition to debit cards 10 years ago when they "misstated" horsepower claims for the 2002 Santa Fe.
Good luck and happy motoring.
Something we can do is get data out there on the performance of these cars. On www.fueleconomy.gov, you can record your mileage and fuel consumption online and let everyone see it. If enough Hyundai owners do this, maybe it will become clear how far off this car company is in their mileage claims.
I don't want to take a big financial hit trading this car in, but I also don't want to burst a vein with every tank fill. Massachusetts has a lemon law for car purcahses - I wonder if this qualifies?
Do you reset the MPH calculation (in addition to the MPG calculation) everytime you do the test? If not, you need to.
They way I see it we are averaging 25 mpg in mainly stop and go driving. That is 4 mpg or 14% difference so give me my 14% back.
10000 * .14 = 1400 miles / 25mpg = 56 gallons * 3.65/gallon = $200 per 10k miles driven.
I would accept $200 per 10k miles as fair and would way my right to sue.
$40 per 10k is laughable.
Krafcik and his counterpart in S. Korea should fall on the knife, but won't.
I get 24-26 in the 'city'.
My best after 1,500 miles is 23 - 24 city, 25 - 26 combined, 33 - 36 highway
Quite a shortfall, even if it's not "broken in" yet.
L.A.-Las Vegas-Grand Canyon-L.A.
We drove our 2013 Elantra. And got 42.8 mpg. going about 70-80 m/h.
When I drive all city no freeway I get about 29-30 mpg. And that's in Los Angeles......
If you pay attention to the way you drive, it's easy to get that kind of mpg.
The A/C is a mpg. Killer... And if you get up 10 min late every morning trying to get to work on time, you'll kill you mpg. to.
We love our Elantra :shades:
There is no way they could have honestly made a mistake on how they test their cars. Not only is it a black-mark on the company but they should be punished with a tariff. This amounts to unfair trade practice, dishonesty in the marketplace and for me and my kids... it is my last Hyundai (after buying four). It is simply unacceptable for a company to lie to me and get away with it.
Goodbye Hyundai Kia... never again!
These guys got this down pat.
The story is that they misinterpreted the EPA test procedures. Can anyone say that's not possible?
In the meantime, let's misstate the results of our testing misinterpretations, put competition at an unfair disadvantage and in doing so sell a few more thousand units.
Thanks to a few irratated owners they got busted with their hand in the cookie jar, simple as that.
You want to see and hear what those cars are really like, listen carefully to the video reviews on YouTube.com, listen to how the doors crash when closed, the tin-like trunk lids and hoods. If they got 100 mpg I'm not sure I would buy one. The 40mpg they are touting is no big deal. Buy a used Honda Civic with 5-speed stick and drive it moderately fast, it will happily give you 40mpg. My 1994 Civic did.
There are consumer class actions pending now with obviously more to follow. Other auto manufacturers should also sue Hyundai based on deceptive advertising to gain market share.
Hyundai sold 900,000 units based largely on false advertising. In the court of public opinion they violated terms of their parole from previous "misstatements" and bogus claims that are nothing less than fraud.
Obviously they want the debit card holders & bad press to disappear as quickly as possible. They will pay dearly, but little of that will go directly to Elantra owners.
If i had bought the Elantra because I just really loved the car, I'd still own it today probably. But my main reason was the mpg, and I stupidly couldnt get over it like a bad breakup. So I ended up trading it in for a 2012 Jetta TDI with a stick shift. In which i average 39.9 in the same mix over 13500 miles.
If you are considering an Elantra, look at the cost benefits, the value for the money and the styling, and consider the mpg numbers as another feature, and you'll probably never second guess your choice like i did (plus i went from stick for 10 years to an automatic, and just missed having a manual, so that was another factor for tradein).
I think they are trying to escape a massive lawsuit that would be much more money. I think it's pretty clear the U.S. government looked the other way, perhaps to give them a foothold in the market here (jobs, etc. being the payoff). And now that the mileage problem has gone from a few disgruntled customers to a collective roar they are doing a minimal 'fix' and lying about how it happened and getting a little slap on the wrist from the government. Not only have people lost faith in Hyundai, but also for the authority of the EPA. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this whole thing was planned and pre-calculated into their profit numbers from the get-go....better known as 'the cost of doing business'.
Their legal solution doesn't come close to compensating for BOTH past and future losses due to owning a much less gas efficient car than was stated. They have lost me as a future customer but I still will be living with this less gas efficient vehicle for several more years. There ought to be something worked out for those wanting to unload their Hyundai or KIA.
I want out of this contract so I can purchase a PRIUS.
Just saw this article about Hyundai/KIA compensation today -
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/hyundai-and-kia-to-compensate-consumers-for-over- stating-mileage-claims.html
Hyundai's admission shut them up quick.
Hyundai has still understated the issue. I rarely get the combined EPA milage on my Elantra even when a lot of my miles are highway.
Ridiculous. Even if the U.S. government wanted to pay off an automaker to add jobs, why select a foreign automaker that already had two factories in the U.S. with no near-term plans to add another?
It's comments like that that make it difficult to take complaints about FE seriously. Those kind of comments only bring down those from people who have legitimate complaints, e.g. due to a defect in their car.
And if you wanted the FE of a hybrid like the Prius... you should have purchased a hybrid in the first place.