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I am still thinking a 1-2 year old CTS V will be a great deal .Especially when the AUTOMATIC version comes out next year .By the way the platinum CTS-V I saw at the dealer Monday is still available today ,Thursday .And this is the "Big" presidents day sale week
The XLR looks the best.
Saw a XLR the other day and it is just stunning.
I think I will buy a SRX V6 no options in Moonstone.
I looked at the CTS again 2 days ago when I was looking at a black SRX and feel that the back seat is just too small.
Last nite on a wet street, going uphill, after stopping at a light, it bumped or jumped or slipped ,like mad when taking off at a NORMAL speed. My wife was very upset for a new car. I have NEVER had this problem with other GM cars, so what is wrong ?
Also I have had a problem with the seat memory setting changing from mine to my wife, and she does not even drive the car. Had the dealer reset it once, now it changes again to my wife then went back to mine. Shows on the display and the movement of the seat, my wife is much shorter, so goes up more.OK now.
Also have a 6 CD so some times when I start the car the CD keeps changing cd's making noise. To correct this I have to remove one CD then put it back. This has happend several times.
Have had a problem with the analog cell phone, it doesnt work in my drive way, but Onstar works, we are a block away from a sprint tower. They the Onstar people promised me an dual mode model, by Dec 03, but went to a dealer , they have not heard about it. Then (Onstar)even gave me 12 months and 120 hours for all my trouble. I spent hours in the driveway trying to make it work, the cell phone.
Has any one got the dual analog/digital cell phone ? They talked about a recall.
What other problems has the 2004 had ? Will take it to a dealer soon.
Over all I like the car except when I asked about an oil change in Orange County, they quoted me $90, a BIT EXCESSIVE as I rarely pay over $30. What is a proper price, in other areas ?
Ray
As to the tires jumping, I think you just have too much power under the hood for Southern California's slippery when wet roads. We have gone much too long without rain here in the southland, and accumulated much too much oil. You might try using the little snowflake button to ease up your starts. The oil slick acts just like snow.
That $90 dollar oil change sounds way out of line unless they are including such other things as a tire rebalance and rotation. Come up here to the San Fernando valley and you can get new oil and a filter for about $27.50, and they will even throw in a car wash.
And by the way there is a replaceable cabin air filter, well hidden under the hood in front of the passenger seat.
As far as the Onstar, my only comment is that I notice you mentioned Sprint. I used to use Sprint and would drop calls all the time, and could not use my cell phone inside my house, despite it being a single story ranch. Of course there are many many variables, so I am not saying it's the tower's fault. Just an FYI.
Brian
Onstar didn't work well. That's I65 between Louisville (Ky) and
Nashville (Tn).
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The newer card allows unlimited accrual for up to 7 years but limits the amount one can apply by model. If you have the old card - do not convert to the new.
The New GM is no where near as good. It markets itself as saying earn as much as you want, no yearly cap. The kicker is GM puts limits on how much you can use on each vehicle GM makes.
I have the original old card and have almost $2500 sitting on it. GM is constantly sending me crap trying to switch to the new card. I will never switch the New GM card is IMO crap.
I wish GM would let you use the points towards a SAAB. SAAB is a GM product so why not let me use the GM points? I emailed SAAB about it and the official response was, "We have never inquired about it."
I would like a 4-door sports sedan with manual transmission. CTS is about all GM has to offer at the currenty time, maybe the new G6 from Pontiac will be an option.
Knowing that these programs come up periodically, I will make sure I get $3500 off the price of my CTS. I will get my $1000 from the card, I will buy with the $1000 bonus, and get the conquest $1500 since my wife's Jeep is titled in both of our names. I only wish it were next fall/winter already.
--Robert
(saving up his GM card dollars for a CTS or a GTO)
The good news is: strong engine, gets you into trouble in a blink. Nice 5A tranny. Handling was very confidence inspiring. From a driver's perspective, this car hits its marks in my opinion.
Now the little complaints. I'm not ripping up the car, I'm providing constructive feedback on how it could be better.
I'm only ~180 lbs, and the seat was rubbing on the center console quite often. Time to shave 1/4" off console and side of seat GM.
No glove box light, at this price that's embarassing.
Trunk is a bit heavy to lift at first, minor quibble though.
I heard some plastic creak from around the shifter at times, then it would go away. It was minor, but why can't the interior designers realize either two pieces of plastic must be secured to each other or some felt needs to be used between mating surfaces.
Finally I think the fuel door ought to lock at this price.
Maybe some of this will be addressed for 05.
Brian
i think it's more to keep others from putting stuff INTO your tank you wouldn't want. but this doesn't bother me too much, it's the smallest of my complaints by far.
brian
As long as they left enough so I could get to the next station . Seriously, I'd be more concerned with people pouring sugar in there.
I dont care if the fuel door doesnt lock unless gas hits $3.00 or I get someone angry at me . I had gas stolen from me during the gas crisis
My point is, that was in a $23k Ford. We're talking Cadillacs that go $31k to $50k. The glovebox is big enough for sunglasses, a map, directions, tire gauge, tissue pack, chap stick, gloves... which means, it should be lit! My cousin who is a car buff and owns an IS300 noticed all this cost cutting; this is no way to convert people back to GM.
Oh. Why does the rear seat overhead light not have a switch that the rear seat occupants can use to turn it on?!? My parent's Alero has this, my Contour has this, their Century had this, my Cutlass Supreme, etc. Not putting in a basic toggle switch saved 'em $1 and left Olds' owners scratching their heads.
v8lncolnguy: you're almost right about Accords having locking fuel doors. What you should have said is that previous generation Civics had locking fuel doors.
Brian
Brian
I did just submit feedback of my 24 hour drive to GM from their web site, I truly hope they take it seriously. There's been about 11 GM's in my family in the past two decades, all good cars. I would like nothing better than to see GM succeed in its revitalization.
Brian
I could be wrong. Does anyone have the 2003 sales numbers for the two cars, plus the first two months of this year? I have a theory regarding the results, but I'll await actual data.
The interesting thing is that Cadillac has introduced additional models of the CTS, while Lincoln continues to sell the LS to people who need something smaller than a Town Car to park.
Double what Cadillac thought it would sell.
February 2004 sales were 4800. 36% more than last year!
SRX was up 52% over January at 2283.
Cadillac is absolutley blowing Lincoln out of the water at this point.
Don't forget that the LS sold well over 50,000 units each of it's first 2 years also. I'd say the CTS is exactly where the LS was at the same point in it's model life. If the CTS can maintain 50K/yr beyond the first 2 years THEN it can claim bragging rights. Until then it looks like a dead heat to me.
The only reason cars sales are down is because the Seville has been discontinued and the deville's sales are off.
No matter how good CTS's sales are it can make up for both the deville and the Seville.
Here are the diferences in production for Lincoln and Cadillac.
Lincoln: 27,000 vehicles built this year.
Cadillac: 42,000 vehicles built this year.
Lincoln: 2,000 vehicles less than last year.
Cadillac: 6,000 vehicles more than last year.
Granted some of those Cadillacs are being built for Overseas
sales, but the momentum is with Cadillac.
I remember a Ford Executive who said 2 years ago that he didn't
think there was a business case for GM to be pouring as much money
into Cadillac as it was over the next couple of years.
How wrong he was.
Caddy has spent a fortune on new models and advertising. You don't recover the R&D costs of a new platform in a year or two of good sales. They're on the right track but it will be another couple of years of sustained sales before you can really say whether the huge investment paid off. Another key is to keep refreshing the product (e.g. 3.6L engine and CTS-V). If not sales will definitely drop.
Let me ask this of the CTS owners here: Do the rear seat passengers have a reading light they can control? I definitely remember the center overhead light back there not having a switch on it. I can't remember if there were "outboard" lights by the doors. If "no", can the driver turn on ONLY the rear light? I don't remember that ability.
Not having proper reading lights in the back seat = another example of something that every car over $20k seems to have these days but the CTS lacks.
Is it a "major" requirement? No, just very disappointing.
Brian
I guess this why front wheel drive, poor handling cars with lots of gizmos in them sell in this country. A decent amount of comfort is nice, but to pick a car because of the gizmos seems odd. I find locking gas gaps to be more of an annoyance than anything else, and can't ever remember a time when people in my back seat needed their own reading lights. It's a CTS, not a minivan.
Anyway, I also heard a comment about "plastic noises" from the dash. I don't have any squeaks and rattles in my dash (@ 27K miles). Was this a test drive car you heard them in? I find the CTS to be very well buttoned up.
Oh, and last but not least, I FINALLY got my cluster replaced yesterday to fix the out-of-sync clock problem. Now the backlights from the needles hit me in the eye from about 20-50 mph, so it's going back in on Monday. Grrr...
I had my cluster on my 03 CTS replaced about six months ago to correct the clock sync problem. The new cluster solved my problem for about six months, I noticed recently that my clocks are out of sync again. I will probably just live with the problem this time. Other than the sync problem, I have had no other problems with my CTS (25,000 miles), still solid as a rock.
BULBS/GIZMOS: The CTS was built to be driven hard, not to drive somebody around while they are reading a book or picking their nose in the back seat.