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I would think that the younger buyers (in other words, mostly male buyers in their 20's) would be the stereotypical "bling" buyer - driving the flashy Mercedes, Tahoe with 20" wheels, souped up Honda rice burner, or whatever the fashion of the day happens to be.
I have a John Deere tractor - but not because of what my neighbors think about it (I hope they have better things to do than worry about what I mow my lawn with) - I bought it because it's dependable, and it NEVER breaks down. Same goes for my reasoning with buying a used LC - if we buy one, it sure as heck won't be because we're worried about what the neighbors think - it will be because it's roomy, quiet, comfortable to travel in, and reliable.
My initial thought it a '99 or '00 Toyota LC for her. However, I'm also considering an '01 Sequoia and a BMW X5.
Land Cruiser - seems to be best deal for the money. $17.5K to $21K for '98, 99, or 2000 model. Have heard very good comments.
Sequoia - '01 models still go for $20K to $24K depending on miles. Larger size would be a plus. But we think the styling is rather bland compared to the LC.
BMW X5 - Comparing apples to oranges, I realize. Much smaller, couldn't haul more than 4 people, probably couldn't haul a bunch of bags of mulch or junk from Lowes, but probably a LOT more fun to drive to the ski resort! Reliability really concerns me after reading some of the X5 owner groups. I have heard enough horror stories to just about scare me away from buying one.
Any comments on any or all of the above would help us. We're still in the deciding mode....
The reasons I am buying an LC are:
LC Heritage
Off Roadability
Right Size for me > 4Runner < Sequioa
Full Time 4WD.
Toyota dependability
I have done a lot of reasearch and the LC/LX470 gets excellent reviews from owners. In most message boards LC/LX average above 9 on 10 for consumer ratings vs 7 on for Amercian SUVs and 8 out of 10 for German SUVs.
Honestly, I think the styling and amenities in an LC are dated compared to what the competition is offering now, but I still woudn't get anything else on the market now.
Thanks from Maui Dave
I know about the new FJ Cruiser, but from what I've ready, this is a different car than the Land Cruiser and it doesn't appear that this new FJ Cruiser will, in any way, effect the body of the TLC.
Has anyone heard when Toyota is planning on making changes to the existing TLC body?
I went out and bought a used 2003 TLC yesterday. There are, however, three accessories it does not have that I want to have put on.
The main one I'd like to have that I'm unsure of is the BlueTooth telephone option. It does not have this but I'd like to have it installed. Is that possible?
Hope this helps
CrazedCarNut :shades:
As to selling your '98, just be glad you're not trying to sell a RR )
Keep in mind you've got two axles, two drive shafts (and a transfer case in between) comprising your "driveline". While this clunk is common, and probably unavoidable as your truck gets older and has more miles on it, proper lubrication will reduce or eliminate it. I'm surprised your dealer didn't "explain" this to you. This clunk is most noticable if you're stopping or starting at rather low speeds, right? e.g. just getting underway in a parking lot and you almost stop after gaining minimum momentum, then re-accelerate to maybe let someone cross in front of you?
From what you describe, it sounds like you've just got the typical LC driveline "clunk". And it's pretty true that "they all do it". You may want to check with another dealer to confirm this (a second opinion)
Looking forward to keeping up and being a part of the next chapter in the TLC landscape.
My wife drives a 2001 3.0 X5 which I consider more of a sedan that sits up high. Much more fun to drive the X5, but once l leave the asphalt, I'd rather be in the LC (probably more so bc I don't want to damage it). The X5 has been a great car, not one problem, and is truly fun to drive. Gas mileage has been close to 18 mpg.
Apples and Oranges. Good luck.
There’s certainly more than one opinion on rotor turning v. rotor replacement on an 80. My rule of thumb on an 80 is you can turn the fronts once and the rears maybe once, but replacement is preferable.
If the rotors were warped and grooved, that means your existing pads would have some corresponding grooves as well. So you wouldn’t want to use old pads with new (or turned) rotors or new pads with old rotors for the same reason. I’m not sure what you mean by a partial tear down to get at the rotors. It’s not a simple matter of taking the wheel off and then the rotor though, so perhaps that’s what your mechanic was referring to?
I haven’t done anything to the brakes (yet) on my 100 series, but I typically get around 40K miles and change on TRD pads on the fronts on my 80 and about the same, maybe a bit more, with stock pads on the rears. I put new rotors all the way around at 80K on the 80.
If you haven't tried the TRD pads, I think you'd prefer them to stock Toy pads. Longer lasting and they do improve the braking a bit too.
As to the design issue.....if you haven't had to replace the lower heater hose (driver's side, under the exhaust manifold and near the firewall) hope you don't have to. Now that's an example of a non user friendly repair!
The LC market appears to still be strong here in So Cal--at least judging by the used car ads and what I see at the dealers here. They seem to be gone just as soon as the dealer puts them on the lot.
The Sequoia has certainly affected LC sales. Prior to the introduction of the Seq, the LC was the full sized SUV for Toy. Just think of all the LCs that would be on the road now, if Toy hadn't introduced the Seq here.
Can't imagine Toy opting out of the luxury SUV market in the US and letting RR take it over.
As always, I'm guilty of coloring my comments with my alter ego who wishes he were in charge of LC design and distribution here
Don't know about your part of the country, but here in SoCal I never see any LC specials advertised. I've been driving them for so long, don't know what I'd do without one.
I think they're the best vehicle on the road--and yes I'm pretty biased )
Lower #s will help CAFE mileage. I'd guess new one will have 15 or 16 city rating and 20 highway ratings? Will be interesting to see the hybrid version.
Do you still have the rattling problems? I had a 2002 with similar issues. Many dashboard rattles, beginng about 12,000 miles. The dealer disassembled the dash, and reassembles. They made significant improvements (this was around 36,000 miles). I would have them do it. Since then, I traded the 2002 in on a 2005. Good luck with it.
Firstly it is not a Factory option but dealer installed. Secondly the dealers don't install it in their shop, they outsource it to shops that install accessories. I know this because my cousin has a business that does this for some dealers. The factory dvd has only a 7 inch display and costs about 1700 bucks. You can get a really good aftermarket Sony system with a 9 inch screeen and two wireless headphones for about 800 bucks installed. 6th Avenue electronics a NY metro area electronics retailer has this sytem on sale.
Land Cruiser enters the 2006 model year with several changes that add style, refinement and safety to the legendary off-road king. For the 2006 model year, the Land Cruiser receives an all new front fascia including an upscale grille and refined headlamp housings. Also, new rear tail lamps and a high gloss wheel finish raise Land Cruiser’s image to a higher level. To better handle normal road conditions and off-road trekking, Land Cruiser’s engine performance is greatly enhanced. With the addition of Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence (VVT-i), the 4.7L V8 now delivers 275 HP and 332 lb-ft of torque, for an increase of 40 HP and 12 lb-ft from 2005. Following our strategy to provide the safest vehicles on the road, Tire Pressure Monitor System has been incorporated as standard equipment.
Additionally, optional 4-wheel Automatic Height Control is now available to further advance Land Cruiser’s renowned off-road abilities. With all of these great enhancements, Land Cruiser’s base MSRP will increase a modest $490 (+0.9%) to $55,815.
OPTIONS
Please note, new options available for ‘06MY Land Cruiser are as follows:
Description Spec Code 2006 MSRP 4-Wheel Height Control NF $1,620 Rear Spoiler RF $280
Getting an '06 may be the last time, if you live in the US, to get a real Landcruiser?
Adding up the various bits and pieces of info I've heard and throwing in a liberal amount of self speculation, I think the 100 series is done after the '06MY.
If this were 25 years ago I could understand Toy opting the LC out of the US market because of the cost to certify the vehicle here--but, I think most new vehicles are "green" friendly now. That is emissions etc are pretty much standard worldwide. Of course as time goes on fewer SUV customers want to pony up the extra $$$ for the smaller LC when they just look at the LC and compare it to a Sequoia.
My plea to Toy is to continue with the real LC here in order to satisfy that niche market. Can't fathom seeing a Sequoia with Landcruiser badging! Hopefully, we'll get some solid info before the new one comes out and we can jump on an '06 100 if it is indeed the last of the real LCs.