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-Beanboy
I don't think my rack is like yours, it looks like a phillips screwdriver will remove the crossbars, but then I'm not sure about the runners or whatever you call them, that the crossbars are attached to. Did you just take off your crossbars or also the runners they're attached to?
I was sitting waiting for the light to turn green when a red car pulled next to me. I wasn't bothered. But when i glance to the right there was this middle age man with a daughter. The man kept gesturing me to roll down my passenger side window. So I did with some hesitation...
father : Sweet car you got there!
Me : Err...thanks.
father : is that 2001!!!
Me : Yeah. (I thought how can he tell! I can;t even tell a 2000 and a 2001 RS apart!)
father : must be fast. Pretty good 0-60 times too.
me : I guess. (7.7 seconds fast? I don't think so...)
father : how long did you wait for it?
me : not long.
father : very nice. Functional hood scoo too.
Then i realised he thought my car was a WRX. hahahah.... however before I could say no, the light turned green and
father : Let's see her go!!! Go! Let's Go! Come on!!!
And father and daugther there hauled [non-permissible content removed] with their Legacy L.
Caught up to them at the other side of the traffic and proceeded to blew past them at the uphill curve. Gave them a wave and a honk and proceeded on my ways.
Well looks like the aging RS still gets attention. hahahaha.... It made my evening pleasant. she still got it!
I don't have anything like triangle thingys and they don't say OBS sport in any place you can see, so I don't think we have the same rack. yea, I'm leaving on the strips, unless I decide at some point to get the holes filled, primed, and the roof painted...not now, tho'. On mine, it looks like you just remove the crossbars and leave what the crossbars are mounted to on the car...
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Well the compass is on the auto-dimming mirror right? They really can't make it standard without making the auto-dimming mirror standard, and that'd jack up the price a bit. I can see why they didn't do it.
Mike
And not to mention adds to the weight of the car!
Heck, they should even make the rear diffy protector standard on it,
-Beanboy
celeste : the flag belongs to Swaziland. It's a tiny African country IIRC.
Actually Subarus in general are sparce in terms of doodads compared to other car mfgs.
Bob
Beanboy: OBS instead of TS because I love cruise control and they won't offer it on the TS. I've also spent almost 30 years in cars with manual windows and they are a pain when dealing with toll booths and parking garage slips. I'll take my power windows, thank you very much, and the same goes for power outside mirrors, my manual mirrors on my other cars just didn't get adjusted if it was raining hard, and how can you reach across to adjust an outside mirror on the passenger side with stopping and getting out?
However, I probably could do without alot of the other stuff but like the two tone paint on my car and since that's the way it comes with what's in it it's fine with me. The tape player is OK but I'm always having to make my own tapes off my CD's and tapes take up alot of space, so at some point I'll probably add a CD player to mine. However, again, the thought of having someone cut holes in my dash and monkey around with things doesn't thrill me because as of now I have absolutely no dash rattles, and don't care to have any, either.......
u mentioned that u didn't want holes to be drilled on your dash fr the cd player. well don't fret. there's no holes needed. if u can change a computer's harddrive, u can do this too. all u need is a special wiring harness that connects the audio wires from your OBS to the desired CD deck. very simple. I switched mine already. I really hate the RS' sound system. the Cd sucked too.
Beanboy: I thought the TS was the base model and thought that's what I've heard, which seemed logical that they would force you into the next pricier model up just to get things alot of us would like to consider standard. Alot has been said on the Outback Sport club at Yahoo and that's what I believe I heard there.
- open up your arm rest compartment.
- u will see 2 plastic buttons
- pry them open and unscrew the 2 screws.
- now lift the "premium" plastic console that resides on your handbrake and power mirro switches. There is an adapter underneath it. Unplug it. It is for the power mirrors
- next pry and lift up the wonderful subaru plastic console that is on your shifter.
- u can unscrew the shiftknob and boot to take the entire console out. It's up to u.
- now the tricky part. use a flathead protected with tissue or someting and pry the plastic frame that goes around your tape dack and climate control.
- don't worry, it won't break. As flimsy as they look, they are quite hardy! i've abused mine quite a bit and it's still fine.
- so before you would be the bare metal casing that holds everything together (tapedeck, climate control, empty cubby hole....) only unscrew the the 4 screws that holds your cubby hole and tape deck.
- take the entire casing out.
- unscrew the screws that hold the tape deck to the metal case.
- rip out the wire connectors.
- replace the connectors with the wiring harness from the audio store.
- put on your new CD deck
- reverse all the steps mentioned. and voila! done. but do test it first before putting everything back.
- it's really quite simple.
all the best.
Tara
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Beanboy: Well from Subaru's standpoint it's not silly at all because if you really want the cruise control, which alot think of as standard, you are forced into the higher price range. Just a marketing ploy.
Granted, everything but the 16" wheels (I suppose you can add those too) are options on the TS.
Bob
No the tape deck is sitting around somewhere in the house. The stock CD player is being sold to a guy this weekend.
yes the tape deck would go bye bye. Unless u want to get another adapter to hook the tape deck or yoru CD up as a secondary player in the 2nd DIN slot. that's how my stock tape/CD player works. The tape deck acts as the primary player, the CD player is daisy chained to the tape deck for controls and power.
Just get the new CD deck celeste.
However if you want to retain the tapedeck, u would need to get a CD player capable of piggybacking with the stock tape deck. which means it needs some kinda cable to connect with the tape deck and a smaller wiring harness to draw power from the tape deck. Why would u want to keep the tape deck anyways?
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Drew
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In short, I liked it a lot. The power seemed more than adequate. It's certainly no WRX (I've driven two of those), but it's no slug by any means. I absolutely blew away a CRV at an impromptu stoplight grand pix.
The car handles better than either of our current Subarus. I really wish the All-Weather-Package that our Forester has, was available, however.
BTW, the dealer I visited had a yellow WRX there with WR blue super graphics plastered all over the vehicle. It was the same graphics used on the factory rally racers. It looked hideous. I've always said there is no such thing as a bad color, only bad color combinations and/or usage. This car perfectly illustrated that point perfectly. It was Aztec-ugly.
Bob
Bob
I have been eyeing an 1998 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport here in the Windy City (actually, just north of it), and if the test drive shows no problems, I think I have some good numbers for negotiating ... except one:
It looks like it has an aftermarket ('cause I don't see it listed as an option here at Edmunds when checking the TMV) power sunroof. Does anyone know how much value that adds (roughly, I know it can be a regional thing)?
Other details:
White exterior, gray interior
36.2K miles
Auto (okay, not preferred, but as I don't know how to drive a stick ....)
airbags, power windows, powerlocks, cruise, A/C, CD/Cassette player, tilt steering, cruise, luggage rack, ABS, fog lights, tinted privacy glass (does this also affect price?) and the power sunroof.
The dealer (a subaru dealership) is asking 13995
I was thinking of shooting for 12500 ... Edmunds estimates the "Dealer Retail" as 12045 (without the sunroof) and that's what I'm basing the 12500 on. Now, if I could get it for closer to the 9600 (+ sunroof value) trade in value that would be great.
I really appreciate any comments and suggestions - and hope to relatively soon be a proud owner of an Outback Sport :-)
Julia
I can't speak to the price, as I have not shopped that model per say. We have a '96 Impreza Outback automatic; and it's been a great, trouble-free car.
It's a shame you can't afford (or don't want) a new '02 Outback Sport. That would be my choice hands down.
Bob
Here's another source of information: go to Yahoo and search under clubs for "Outback Sport". There you can ask members who have several different year models of Outback Sport, and they are probably more knowledgeable than I am since I've only owned one for a year.
However that power sunroof has me baffled....
rsholland : the new OBS is more expensive now. Still a good buy tho for those who can afford it. Otherwise the previous gen OBS are still a great piece of machinery.
I know it's certainly an outback sport edition, so the power sunroof is probably (unless someone from the dealership had enough pull) aftermarket.
I appreciate the feedback - while I would like to buy a newer model, there are budget constraints, as well as my own personal opinion that it's hard to justify spending $$ for new car smell when the value will go down tremendously as soon as you drive it off the lot. Of course, if Subaru ever offered something like 0.9 for 60 months with no down, I might get over that :-)
Thanks again.
Bob
hey the new STi might be out as soon as 2003!!! whoohooo!!! gotta start saving money again.
I usually drive 65-70mph(assuming 55mph speed limits), I don't race and I don't know if I would do any mods. Plus the extra $5000 and assuming extra insurance costs would be a stretch for me. I guess I'm just looking for assurances that with the OBS I'll be able to keep up with traffic/execute emergency manuevers,etc. in other areas where posted speed limits reach 75mph.
-Caroline
The new Car & Driver has an article on the 2002 Porsche 911 GT2 (456 hp). That's kind of a perfect world, except I'd hate to have to worry about scratches on something like that!!
In the real world of driving you will not have water squirting in your windows that hard, and it never leaks when we hand wash with a hose. Of course, the sunroof may only leak under high pressure, too. It would be nice if you could check that sunroof with a regular hose first, just running water over it.
Just thought I'd warn you so you don't get put off by it.
my RS is just fine. Installed that ganzflow intake on and put back my 18mm rear sway bar on. Just in time for the weekend's autoX. Needless to say, it kicked rear [non-permissible content removed]. came out second in my class out of 5 cars. Also bea ta whole bunch of FWD cars mod or stock. And I'm still using my crappy RE92s. Can't wait to pu ton some serious rubber! the ganzflow rocked 110%!!! For the money, I can't ask for more! Installation is simple.
Turbo will come in time. But as always, that comes later after I get my priorities straightened out.