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I'm down to a couple of cars: A 2001 Legacy L with 27000 miles, or a 1999 Legacy 30th Anniv with 36000 miles. Price is pretty darn close, but Edmunds evaluates the 1999 as more valuable, presumably because the 30th Annivs are loaded with features. I would get a little more continuing warrantee coverage on the newer vehicle, but as Ken points out, that might never be needed.
A wildcard would be a 2002 Saturn LW200 with 16000 miles for $1000 less than the Legacies. That would sacrifice AWD for better fuel economy, but I've driven for many years without AWD.
(After I've purchased, I'll dish on my experiences with sellers :-) )
Between the two Subies, I'd pick the 2001, because the 2000 and later models are bigger and more refined. They're a little heavier but also make a bit more torque to at least compensate for part of that.
And it's hardly stripped, you have AWD, ABS, power stuff, etc. It's not missing anything truly essential, just a few goodies like alloys, and much of that stuff is cheap in the aftermarket or used.
-juice
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Greg
I have the exact same problem except my replacement tires haven't gotten cupped. I also had the front rotors turned some time ago which took care of the pulsing when braking but did nothing for the constant shake at freeway speeds. Balancing the tires helps a little (they are always a little out of balance by then), but the shake is always there. I have to rebalance the tires every 4000-5000 miles or the shaking gets really bad.
I've found no solutions to the shaking after having dealt with the dealer, a good independent mechanic and various tire dealers. I had the tire dealer put on a different brand with a softer rubber, but the shake is still there. I've had a second alignment done. Mechanics have checked the driveline and rotors are good. It's all been very frustrating.
-Eric
Steve
-Eric
So is there another alternative? Or do you pass the state police at your own risk? I travel to N. Calif quite a bit, and think the HP there will halt you if you don't have on chains. Any Ore. or N. Calif OB owners have an idea?
Cheers!
Paul
If it's still there after you rotate, balance, or change the tires it's got to be something else.
Jim
-mike
I've heard that Z-chains will fit Legacys. Anyone have a link handy?
-juice
-Brian
-juice
Can somebody explain the half shafts. What would you do to determine if a problem existed?
-Eric
Have they tried remounting the tires? (remove and reinstall the tires on the rims)
Only other thing I'd be curious to see is if you can get the vehicle up on a lift and watch the wheels move. A wobble may be able to be spotted, but I doubt it.
-Brian
It's like the man who bought a new tie; then he had to go out and buy a new suit, hat, etc. to match the tie.
-juice
Tire rotation to the definitely made the shaking worse until a rebalance was done. Tires have been rotated/remounted with no success.
Have you tried getting a dynamic balance on a proper rolling road. It is hard to locate a shop with this equipment but it sounds like you may have something odd which is onlky apparent in dynamic conditions.
A few possibliities include
Diert on inner wheel surfaces - Scrub clean and wax to prevent recurrence.
Mis-alignment
Accidental damage to roll bar or mounts - I hit and bent a mounting point once and suffered scuffed tyres and shakes for months until I had it looked over on a rolling road
Hope that helps
Cheers
Graham
-Brian
So, the Michelin Pilot Sports I ordered are rated 400 against other Ultra High performance tires and cannot be compared to my BFGoodrich touring tires that are also rated 400 (and I get 50K miles with).
Very knowledgeable tire expert at BJs told me I can expect ~30K - at most (especially w/ AWD) - only if a rotate every 5K and have perfect alignment, etc.
So, it is back to regular tires for me...and a savings of about $300...
...I can hear the Bean crying in the parking lot...
Ralph
g'day...
-juice
I faced the same legal technicality regarding chains (I live just north of Seattle) when I bought my OB 3 years ago. Bought a set of LaClede Cable Type Chains (Stock number 1038) to toss in the back when I head over the passes. Haven't needed them yet, but I note from the slightly frayed price sticker (!) they cost me $29.99 at a local auto store (Schuck's, most likely). I see that LaClede is a Portland company (LaClede Chain Manufacturing Company, Portland, OR, 97210), so I wouldn't expect you'd have much trouble finding them. In case your tire size (or their stock number) has changed, you'll want to check carefully for the correct chain.
Good luck - betcha you won't need them!
Ken in Seattle
Once again, this forum has proven to be useful.
Steve, Host
P.S. I was in Taiwan last week on a business trip, and I am sad to say that I did not see any current Legacy or outback (2000-2003) model on the street. The most popular cars are Nissan Cerfiro ( equivalent to Maxima)and Toyota Corolla.
Alland
And a big thanks for all the surplus liquid sunshine
Cheers!
Paul, in soggy Spokane
Bill
-Brian
--K9Leader
You probably could find the specs in the manual section "Flat tire" under "In case of emergency".
According to the Impreza manual, it is 58 - 72 ft lbs. which is pretty much the same with OB.
-Dave
Bill
Len
If you're living in Canada for any length of time it may be better to get a speedo that reads KPH so you don't kill yourself when the speed limit sign reads "100".
-mike
Had the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S's installed on my LLBean Saturday. Knowledgeable installer showed me all the features of a preminum tire (...this is another thing you paid for...)
Loaded them to 32 psi (my original Firestones ran at 30F and 29R). They feel a little harder - may bring them down to 31 psi. Low noise, tight grip and totally awesome going through a 30' wide stream at 75 mph - not a millisecond of hydroplaning. Very impressive. Now if it would only snow....NO!
Installer torqued each wheel to 80 by hand....
Ralph
Greg
Yes, Wally World got my money today. Mostly in the Garden Center, but I also picked up a Fram air filter (CA-9113) for the OB. An inexpensive part (at $6.97 about 1/3 what the OEM costs), but built cheaply as well. The original was fully framed, this is all pliable. I put it in when I got home, but will probably not do that again.
Thanks for your comments. I have really grown to like those wheels. I will miss them during the summer! Get yourself a set with the Dunlops next winter. Believe me, you will be very glad you did.
Steve
Ralph-
Don't forget to re-torque the wheels after ~500 miles.
I think 80 ft. lbs torque is a l'il too much though... 72 ft. lbs is max.
-Dave
Oh yeah, beautiful sunny weather in Anchorage and mid-30's. Slept through the northern lights Sunday night though thanks to a bit of jet lag.
Steve, Host
Steve, Host
Press both buttons on the FOB for a few seconds, you may get an acknowledgement chirp. That should turn off the chirp-ing. You may need to have the doors closed to do this.
To turn it back on if you so desire, just do the same thing.
-Brian
The upcoming 3,000 mile road trip should offer a few opportunities for me to read the rest of the manual too....
Steve, Host
You're one of our hosts? I never knew.
Another steve