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Thanks in advance
Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks.
Thanks
Ian
It depends on your state but most likely when you actually register the vehicle.
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Thx.
There are specific rules on this - I'm not sure the exact but it's something like the vehicle must be 15+ years old.
Diplomats can import vehicles but they must go back when they go back.
stupid laws, why would you import a car that's 15yrs old in the first place, so you'd get an unrepairable piece of junk? So smart...
Grey Market age rules.
Plenty of unique vehicles that were not able to be imported into the US originaly are now imported when they are 25 years old or older.
Many original Mini Coopers and Austins are imported this way. Land Rover Defenders will be imported this way as well in the next few years.
Ding ding ding - we have a winnah!!
That's exactly the point - who'd want to import a 25 year old car?
The reason for not being able to import anything newer is that they probably don't meet US safety or emissions standards.
Also for vehicles that looked the same for their entire production run, original Minis and Defenders are like this, some people will re-VIN newer vehicles with an older vehicles VIN.
By doing that they can import say a 1999 or 2000 MY Mini with airbags and fuel injection.
And after 25 years they will?
Who's the "wise" guy that makes these stupid laws? Aren't they suppose to have someone that really thinks for them? WHERE'S THAT GUY? :mad:
The number of 25 YO vehicles being imported is so small that their effect on the environment in inconsequential. Those vehicles aren't going to be daily drivers for the most part.
Actually, you can import any vehicle you want from abroad. You just have to take the time to federalize it and crash test it. Got an extra $5-7 million hanging around to ensure that $15K Citroen meets US standards?
Back in 1988 while I was still in the military I got stationed in Germany for 3 years. I decided to ship my car with me seeing I was going to be there for 3 years. Before I could pick it up in Germany I had to have the catlytic converter removed, so when it comes off the boat you sit in line and have a AAFES shop remove the converter. fast forward 3 years, whe nI brought it home I had to have the Converter put back on to pass inspection in the states.
Do they build cars for sale in the US with the converter and cars for sale in Europe without? Or do the Europeans now use a catlytic converter on there cars?
BTW if there is anyone who is ever going to go over seas with the Military don't go through the hassle of taking a car. You can pick one up for a song from someone getting ready to come home that needs to dump there ride. At least when I was in Italy for 18 months and Germany for 3 years many moons ago you could pick up a 3 series BMW dirt cheap.
The reason you had to pull your converter was most likely because you couldn't get unleaded fuel there. Using it in a vehicle equipped with a converter would've damaged said converter.
Do you think I could get a matching deal here with a little grinding?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The WSJ did show a picture of a car on a frozen lake. I'm not sure where they obtained the picture for the story was in this week's paper when it was 90 degrees here.
If I would put out the money for a high level car I would like to test out some of its limits.
The BMW ED invoice price is significantly lower (I can't remember the percentage, but it's on the order of 6-8%) than the U.S. (with a corresponding sticker), for the car only. The options are the same price regardless of ED. Some dealers will negotiate the ED price, with $1000 over ED invoice considered a good deal. Some claim to have gotten $500 over ED invoice.
Either way, it's an attractive option to me. I've traveled in Germany on business a few times, so know my way around there (plus Austria & Switzerland), so that's my plan for my next car. Fly over on frequent flyer miles with my wife, don't have to rent a car (as we did on our last trip over there) & get a discount on a car optioned exactly as I want it. What's not to like?
However, dealing on ED prices isn't going to work very well if you bring the kind of attitude we've seen on this board lately.
Since the cars being shipped to North America are only the ones that were going to be shipped here anyway (no Europe only options) and with discounts up to 9% per the WSJ, I'm not sure how much is left for the dealer to make it worthwhile for him to be involved.
Go to the dealer. Typically they have certain people who deal with European Delivery.
Some brands (BMW/MB) allow dealers to negotiate the ED price. Others (Saab/Volvo) do not. The dealer gets paid a flat amount to process the order and they don't make a profit on selling the actual car.
Now of course they discontinued the V70R so that won't happen.
You purchase it at your local dealer with all the usual negotiations. But you go to Europe and take delivery but they handle having it shipped back here to your local dealer. Just do your research and then find a local dealer that will do the ED option. With the savings, it's a nice way to get a free vacation in Europe.
Doing it again in 2 weeks.
The OSD program is actually the reason I'm replacing the 2002 Volvo instead of waiting until the wheels drop off like I have with all my other cars.
I looked into the ED program for the Volvo C70 too. At the time though they weren't doing any discounting and then after I actually drove the car, I didn't like it all that much anyway. But we're thinking about maybe a S60 to replace our Maxima in a couple years.
Are you back from your OSD trip yet? I would like to hear about your experience.
I am a fellow Silver Spring, Marylander looking into a XC90 OSD.
Because I had four concussions in less than two years (hence the need for a XC90) it is easier for me to speak on the phone as opposed to chat in a forum, so if you are willing to speak directly please contact me offline (see my profile).
If that doesn't work for you, here is fine.
Regards
1) does the negotiated price include the cost of shipping and tariffs, etc? People love telling me that the cost of shipping kills any cost savings that you might have accrued.
2) are the options on the vehicle, such as the navigation system, for the USA, or do they have to be changed once the car is in the states?
3) is there a minimum amount of driving (distance or days) that must be done in europe to have it qualify as a used car?
4) any updates on good websites for finding ED pricing?
Thanks guys
2) USA options
3) No minimums
4) BMW European Delivery
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The only ED I had ever heard of were on TV commercials. :P
Did any one took ED of BMW 750li or Audi A8?
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2. Do rebates apply to ED cars (like the current $1500 on the C300)?