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Volvo S80

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  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    Stopped by the dealer over the weekend. They said that 2.9 aren't made anymore. The current 2.5T starts around $37-38k without factory incentive. I think that's pretty expensive for the base model =(
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    In the S-80? I don't think that's so bad...
  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    Hi,

    I am interested in getting a 2004 S80 (US model). I understand that this car has this feature, but it needs to be enabled by the dealer through programming. Is that true? Thanks. David
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Yes, its available.
    Dealer needs to download and install the software.

    The 2.9 has been dropped. The 2.5T has taken its place. There are no cash incentives on the 2.5T at htis time.
  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    Thanks Volvomax.

    I have another question. I test-drove the S80 today. When starting on a moderately steep hill, the moment I let go of the brake, the S80 started to roll back, even though I was in D gear. With my current car, the car doesn't do that. On a flat surface, with my foot off the gas and in D gear, the S80 creeps forward, almost not moving. My current car moves a little faster in the same situation. My guess is that the idle RPM on the S80 (I tested two and both are like that) is too low. Is there any adjustment one can make so the car doesn't roll back on hills? Thanks. The salesperson said nothing can be done since everything is controlled by the computer. Was he right?
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  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    Is it true that Volvo offers a $1000 discount to repeat buyers? thanks
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I'm surprised the Volvo doesn't have a "hill holder" in their transmission (which I think is built by GM), but I doubt you can adjust the idle speed. It's controlled by the engine computer for smog, fuel economy & overall efficiency, not holding a hill.
  • It is also a safety feature. When you apply the brakes hard enough, the transmission is disengaged, so car will not "creep" forward, but will remain stationary. You need to "rev up" a bit for the transmission to get engaged again.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    Dave, TMV shows there is a factory to buyer discount of $1000. Not sure if this is the same thing??
  • Considering a purchase of new 2004 s80 t6 very soon. Looking to get other owners experience or expert knowledge on reliability issues. Have seen 99-01 negative comments. Assume getting understanding of more recent (02-03-04)repair / failure risks on t-6 would be valuable. SO, are the current t-6's much improved on reliability ie electrical etc. ? Should one buy the extended factory warranty? I expect to keep the car 7 to 10 years and drive 150,000 miles. Southern U.S. location. Thanks!
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    My business partner has an 01 S-80 T-6 with 50,000 miles on it so far. His problems with it have been very minor. The A/C had issues the first year, but not since, and is very efficient. He has had the burning out lamp issue, but that was resolved with a TSB on a new wiring harness. Since then, nothing really. Just runs great, and it's one of the few cars he is keeping beyond the warranty period. We live in the Southwest - it's hot here. He loves the car, and he's not a person who is easy on a car. His maintenance schedule is spotty, and he hits a lot of curbs and stuff.
  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    A friend of mine paid $34000 for an S80 with MSRP of about $41700 a couple weeks ago. Was that a good price, or he could have done better?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    You must be a current Volvo Finance customer to recieve that incentive.

    lev is correct, the S80 trans will shift into neutral if the car is stopped. Once sufficent pressure is applied to the gas pedal and the car is convinced that you mean to move forwrd it will re-engage the tranny.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    We have a 1995 960 and paid off few years ago (bought it new). Are we still qualified for the Volvo loyalty discount? Thanks.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    No, because your Volvo Finance contract was closed more than one year ago.
    The money isn't owner loyalty, its Volvo Finance loyalty.
    Also, you must re-lease or refinance w/ Volvo Finance to recieve the money.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    I see I see. Thank you, Volvomax.
  • davantdavant Posts: 294
    Dave,

    Is this friend really you but afraid you paid too much, LOL? No matter, I think it was a good price. We bought our '04 S-80, MSRP of $43,660 for $35,250 so don't fret. It took blood & tears (the dealers, not mine) to make it happen. Lets see who else makes us both blush.

    I got the 7 year 100K mile zero deductible Volvo warranty. I did so not because I think it'll fall apart, but even small repairs can run up to grand so I expect to break even or come out ahead even though the warranty approaches 10 percent of purchase price.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    Hi Davant, would you share the price on the S80 warranty? Is it negotiable? The dealer sold us "Warranty Gold" when we bought our 960 back in '95. The cost was around 15k. During the last two years of warranty period, over 25k of fix was done on the car =P
  • davantdavant Posts: 294
    Kiiwii (I think your 'i' key needs lube),

    I don't have the paperwork handy as we just moved but I believe the price of our zero deduct, 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty was $3,400 (USD), like I said, about 10 percent of purchase price. In Florida and in fact most states, the prices are well regulated and non-negotiable. The price dealers charge here must be registered with the FL insurance commissioner.

    I originally bought an aftermarket warranty from JM&A, a very reputable southeast US company. The next day I was in to order rubber mats (which we love) and got introduced to the service manager. He pulled me aside after the fifty-cent tour and recommended the Volvo Plan hands down. He said Volvo will pay all labor charges for a covered repair where third party companies may only pay a portion or set hourly rate. The example he gave was for a brake accumulator resulting in a $200 expense for one customer, zero for the one with a Volvo plan. He'd seen this repeated and honestly I feel he had nothing to gain personally by telling me this. Later, when paying the $1,200 more for the Volvo plan, the finance manager said they don't make as high a profit margin on the Volvo plans as they do third party ones justifying why they push them... simply more profit. A neighboring dealer had several aftermarket plans including JM&A but touted the Volvo plan as tops. I have faith I bought a well built vehicle but still don't feel I gambled on the warranty. I've had similar good experiences with a GM warranty on a Cadillac that paid for itself three times over so I recommend the manufacturers warranty over all others if you take the E-Warr plunge. Hope this long-winded reply helps you and others.
  • big_oilbig_oil Posts: 2
    I am looking at putting in an XM Commander radio into my 1999 S80 sedan. Does anyone have any experience having this done? Where did you mount the display unit and how easy was it to hook into the back of the existing radio?
    Any comments are welcome.

    Neil
  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    Davant,

    You are right. :) And I guess you got a slightly better deal. :)
  • yydaveyydave Posts: 6
    Normally the four sensors would line up across the rear bumper like this:

    -O-----O-----O-----O-

    My 2004 S80 doesn't come with factory-installed parking aid but my dealer was willing to add it for $350. He must have messed up the installation because mine ended up with two rows looking like this:

    -----O------------O-----
    -----O------------O-----

    It not only looks ugly, but it is also not as sensitive near the rear corners because the sensors are further away from the corners as compared to factory installation.

    To make me whole, the dealer will have to replace the bumper and reinstall. If he wouldn't go along, what's my recourse? Thanks.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    Davant, I agree with you. If I'm getting another new car, I would go with the factory ext warranty. In the past few years, I have heard many stories about aftermarket warranty companies going out of business. Other than that, the claim process is always a pain in the a$$. Factory warranty is a bit pricy, but it saves you tons of trouble.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    It's hard to believe the dealer made such mistake. They probably hired some high school punk to install the parking sensors. If I were you, I would ask the service advisor first. If he/she insist the installation is correct, ask him/her to prove with the installation instruction.
  • mcozmcoz Posts: 5
    I've owned Volvos since 1990. First bought a 1987 740GLE with 118,000 miles on it , kept it for 8 years , put 230,000 miles on it and never had a problem. Traded it in for a 1992 940 Turbo with 87,000 miles on it. Had the same good experience. Put 147,000 miles on it and haven't had any problems. Now with the car being 12 years old, we wanted a newer Volvo. Banking on the good service and reliability of our past Volvos, we purchased a 2001 S80 T6. This is not the same kind of Volvo as our previous ones. Had the car for a month , and though it moves and looks great, we had a few minor problems. One being condensation in the head lamps. Another being a loose exterior window molding. Bad AM radio reception is another and lastly, we have a whining noise in the geartronic trans upon starting off in drive. Though we love Volvos and this car, at this point, I am wondering if I should of held onto our 1992 940 Turbo or search for a newer S90 instead of purchasing this S80 T6 and paying it off for the next 5 years. The question is, do you think these new Volvos will hold up as well as the older Volvos. Our S80 is a Certified Volvo, meaning we have the extended coverage for 6 years or 100,000 miles , but we usually keep the cars for well over 6 years and 100,000 miles. What do you think?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    can't be hooked directly to factory radio.
    You'll have to run it through an FM modulator.
    Any competent stereo installer should be able to handle it.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    My partner has driven an S80T6 since new in 01. Problems have been minimal. Personally, I think the new generation of Volvos are 10 times better than the old ones except for the FWD
  • I purchased a 2004 T6 about 4 months ago, and have noticed a downturn in it’s shift quality between 1st and 2nd (in full auto). Normal driving conditions are fine, but when at a light and trying to get out in front of another car to pass, this becomes noticeable. When the car shifts from 1st to 2nd at over 3000 RPM there is a significant hesitation, almost to the point of feeling like a stall.

    I have been to the dealership where they performed a software upgrade. This did nothing or perhaps even made it worse. Is this a normal driving characteristic of the T6? Has anyone else experienced this? I am still working to have this resolved.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 283
    I don't have a T6 (yet), but my other car that has semi-automatic shifting had the same problem when it was new. I took it to the dealer and they told me it's because the computer needs to "learn" the driver's driving style. I don't know if the dealer was correct, but the "stall" symptom went away after few months of ownership.

    From the previous posts, I learned T6 has GM transmission. It should be one of the most reliable transmission in the market today.
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