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I agreed with you. I prefer Honda, which looks and performs more sportily than Camry.
It's an ACCORD, a piece of so fine art and also a piece of highly sophisticated engineering.
Viet,
The sporty guy who have owned and strongly loved every single knob of his 8 sporty Accord & Civic excluding a number of Honda motorcycles. Amen & Amen !
My wife and I bought our cars about 2 weeks apart (the '07 camry was out, but the '07 Accord wasn't out yet). Mine is a 2007 Camry, and hers is a 2006 Accord. The honda was about $150 more expensive, but for the sake of comparison, they're the same price.
The bottom line is that the camry has lived at the dealer since purchase for:
Bad ECU (Replaced)
Bad ECU software (multiple drivability issues, some severe)
Interior trim falling apart (multiple areas)
Leaking engine oil (severe)
Blown struts at 30000 miles
Flaking/stained paint
Failed A/C fitting gasket (loss of refrigerant and oil)
Alignment issues
Dash scraping against windshield
Door seals that don't touch the body at all in some places (leaks and wind noise)
I could go on for pages, and it's only at 36000 miles now.
In the same year and 8 months of ownership, the Accord has had:
Failed battery (replaced myself)
Failed power window motor (replaced under warranty)
And she drives it in much harsher road conditions than I drive the Camry.
Toyota quality has really gone down hill as evidenced by some of the posts on Edmunds, my experience, the fact that Consumer Reports has dropped them from their "assumed reliable" list, and even on Yahoo Autos, my car gets 2.5 stars out of 5 and hers gets 4.5.
The only positive side of the Toyota experience is that the dealer has been EXCELLENT in their willingness to address the issues and fix them under warranty. The car itself has been TERRIBLE.
The Honda on the other hand has not only been reliable, but my wife LOVES it in terms of comfort, handling, etc.
I have a 2006 Accord which has had minimal issues (none mechanical). My interior rear-view mirror wasn't attached properly to the housing (the glass vibrated as if it would fall out), and my gas-flap had a rubber piece that was slightly misaligned so that it wouldn't allow the flap to open on the first try. Both were fixed under warranty, at 500 miles (when I tried to pump gas and couldn't open the flap on my first fillup!). No issues since.
2006 Honda Accord EX 4-cyl 5AT, 32,000 miles.
TheGraduate
I haven't kept up with it but I was wondering whether or not Toyota fixed the tranny issues with the V6 08 Camry?
2009 Camry XLE V4
Black
Bisque Interior Leather
Heated front seats
Moon roof
Wow, you trust Hyundai over Nissan?
Welllllllllllllllllllllll, I know that sounds wierd....even to me. I have had some Infinitis in the past though, and as they aged over 80,000 miles, I had problems, leaks, noises from the engine...... Now, a Hyundai may do worse, so perhaps I should take back my comment. I should say, I trust Honda more than Nissan OR Hyundai, but the Accord "Feels" smaller inside, even if it isn't...... To me, anyway. :confuse:
Just in terms of safety, this kind of turns me away from the Accord.
5-stars - ultimate safety
1 star - certain death
It's not quite like that.
The spread between a 4-star car and a 5-star car isn't going to be terribly drastic, is all I'm saying. If you are hit in a different spot or angle, one the Accord might would come out on top. When the discrepancy is so small as to say the difference is 5/5 and 5/4, I wouldn't let it sway me. I drive an old 4 star frontal car, and have been into a guardrail at decent speeds thanks to a truck which ran me off into it while on a bridge ( a nightmare scenario to me! ). I walked away unhurt, and had the car fixed.
Need help with pro and cons of 2008 Accords vs waiting a month for 09 Honda vs the camry 09. Also pricing, Many thanks
As far as mpg, get a 2007 Accord. They get 4 mpg better than the 2008 Accord.
As far as v6 or i4- both cars are great. Some have complained about the cylinder management on the the v6. Also many have complained about the lights dimming when the alternator starts on the i4.
The leather seats on the v6 and i4 are very uncomfortable in the Accord. The lumber support is too hard.
The deals will be on the 2008's on either the Camry or the Accord.
Sorry, I cannot help on the pricing.
Just make sure you test drive in the daytime and at night. Go on the highway for an extended drive so you can feel the cylinder management on the v6.
Brad :shades:
Brad
I'd suggest driving a 4-cylinder Accord and Camry. If the power is plenty for you, then you have narrowed your decision down to two basic cars. The 4-cylinder Accord EX will be quicker than a 4-cylinder Camry, but the Camry will likely drive more like your Lexus, while the Accord is much sportier and fun to drive.
I wouldn't write-off ANYTHING based on what me or anyone else says before driving the cars you are interested in and forming your own opinion. My definition of sporty may equal uncomfortable for one person, and too boring/not sporty enough to another person.
Best of luck in the hunt, and keep us posted.
Which bmw?
Is the accord better or the camry?
You simply have to go and drive them both. Look at both of the seats, see what options there are to give you the best comfort. Push the engine to see which suits you, both engines are really good. After all they are both, Camry and Accord, you going to get a decent car anyway.
The dealer should not have a problem letting you take the car out, and feel the seat out. It is a matter of preference, Honda is going to have a firmer seat, firmer ride. The Camry is going to be more quiet and less firm on the road., SE is firmer though than the other camry trims. You really can't go wrong with either, but just ask which puts a bigger smile on your face, which car can you see driving, and getting comfortable in.
Take both cars out, drive them, then I would just make a choice, they are both great cars. I don't think you'll miss any one thing if you pick either of them.
I rented an 07 or 08 Malibu back in October which was really quiet even when I tried to hit the small bumps and rougher part of the pavement. I rode in a friend's 07 F150 which rode very nice and did not have any rattles.
Maybe Honda has worked this out with the 08's+. I will have to research this. I used to be all about Honda, but may switch over (not to Chevy, sorry) if the Camry shows to have better build quality. :confuse:
If you're wanting a car that isn't quite as cushy but actually has some driving enjoyment with better build quality, you buy the Accord.