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Also, even if you are correct about only '1000th of one percent affected' that still shows how such a small number can still (even if only to a small degree) tarnish a reputation. Also the news came out after most cars were already sold and the new Camry was just out....with a new 4 cylinder engine...would have been more interesting if the 02 Camry was for sale with the old engine.
Personally, I am glad for the new one, its smooth, quite, fast and fuel efficient...hope it last long time...I won't be too disappointed though if it does not go 300K....125K will do!
We still got 80k miles out of the car, and the wife wanted a change anyways, so we dumped the car rather than deal with the sludge and the other problems they found. Had already replaced 1 motor mount and we needed a second 1, among other things.
Was definitely time to replace it, this just moved up our time table.
The Sandman :-)
~alpha
1) VSC
2) side air bag
3) curtain airbag
I am in California (both Bay Area and Los Angeles)
No say you own a pre-96 vehicle. I am told only a visual inspection is done. If the car is missing pieces or has stuff jury-rigged, the owner will need to repair the car so long as it costs less than $150.
Sounds like nobody benefits from the new PA emmission controls except those who make the testing equpiment.
---Sorry, had to get that off my chest....If I am missing something here, fellow Pennsylvanians please let me know!
PS: A brand new car is given an exemption from the $45 test the first year but the owner must still pay a $25 fee!
As far as side airbages and the such...anyone see any studies on the possible impact to childen who doze off in the car whose heads fall towards the sides of the car. I'd think there would be some concern if the bags went off...not sure....
There is an exemption for any car (regardless of year) that is driven less than 5K miles per year... thus, most brand new cars come with an "exempt" emissions sticker on them. Up until a few months ago, my parents had an 81 Buick that would have *never* passed emissions... they used their other car most of the time... kept the Buick under 5K miles per year... and got the exemption each time! I think there is a small charge for the sticker but don't think its $25... most stickers cost $2.
Good luck, and keep us posted on what you end up buying.
According to the 2004 Camry brochure, Catalina Blue can be had with the Taupe (Beige) fabric (LE, SE, XLE) or Taupe Leather (SE, XLE).
~alpha
I've been considering buying a Camry, Corolla or Prius. I've been reading the Prius Town Hall constantly and I am now considering buying a Camry instead of a Prius due to the wait time, technology and some problems. I would love to hear your opinions between the three car choices- good, bad and otherwise. I like the idea of getting a proven, reliable car like the Camry, and I would drive it home today vs wait 3-4 months. The Corolla is tempting because of the near 40 mpg, but I need room in the trunk for my golf clubs. I currently drive an "84 Corvette.
Thanks
Rich
Rich
After playing golf, (muddy fairways shot 81/26 putts) my clubs were too dirty to bring along. Test drove a Corolla, examined the trunk space and it seems very adequate. I can't decide if my money is better spent on a Camry for its comfort or the Corolla for its mpg. Between the two which one is a better bargain for the money? Any opinions apreciated.
Sadly, I see no XM radio option for the Camry, so I assume I'll have to go with an external unit. Which radio is most easily adapted? I'd like to avoid the cassette adaptor, which is really makeshift.
A few weeks ago I bought an external XM receiver unit called "Delphi XM Roady." It comes standard with the cassette adapter. However, there is a wireless FM adaptor available, which I bought. It's so easy. Just plug the adaptor into the Roady and the Camry's power outlet, and you're ready to go. I bought my unit at Best Buy, and paid around $200, with an extended warranty.
XM would be a nice built in option and I'm surprised Toyota is not offering it.
Rich
For the Camry 2.4L ULEV 4 auto, from the Jan 02 issue of CR, expect:
City: 16 MPG
Highway: 35 MPG
Overall: 24 MPG
For the Corolla 1.8L ULEV 4 auto, from the Jul 02 issue of CR, expect:
City: 20 MPG
Highway: 40 MPG
Overall: 29 MPG
However, although the Corolla 4s acceleration times are only slightly slower than the Camry's, I feel the Camry to be quicker. This may play a factor in your driving habits, which will, in turn, affect fuel economy (of the Corolla, if you tend to drive it harder).
~alpha
In my opinion, you will really like the 4 cyl Camry. The car is very roomy. I'm 5' 10" and the car is very comfortable, even with the sunroof. Plus, if you would want a basic Camry,(which has Power Windows, Locks, AC and CD Player) they are selling for 16,999 around here (Pittsburgh). It looks like Toyota is intent on keeping the top selling car title for the Camry.
Good Luck.
You'd think Toyota would sue or make an issue of it...I guess they do not want to lower themsleves to that level...then again they are already in bed with Pontiac so who knows...
I read on E-Opinions.com that some people have had problems with rain and water leaking in the doors of 2003 Camrys.
We're looking at the 2004 models and wondering if any 2004 owners have had this same problem
Thanks
~alpha
I know Toyota has hinted at such a vehicle, but with the hybrid Accord coming out within a year and the Nissan Altima not too far behind it, it seems difficult to imagine that a hybrid package won't be offered.
Again, just wondered if anyone has heard anything.
Thanks.
~alpha
I took this news with a grain of salt, because some of our salesmen have been known to not listen enough, but that is what was reported.
~alpha