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My honest opinion is that the G35 is a good car...if the intent is to have more speed or sport...it would not be a bad choice at all. Hard to really slam the G35...as it does many things well. And if you wish to compliment the TL with a sidekick....it would be wise choice.
However....if you are already roughly about $37k sticker price (I am not talking about price paid as that is another topic) for the premium and sports package .... I would consider a few others that I mentioned in the post.
Regarding the GS....I view it as similar to the TL in many respects. So if you like the TL...you might like the GS.
Any case...with that clearification in mind (I have been known to hustle through my emails)...hope all the readers here go back to my note and I do hope that I could be helpful.
(ps...the past few posts were wondering my gender. I am a 40 yr old male with family living in Del Mar, CA).
I was thinking the same, with a TL in the garage already, I thought a G35 coupe would be a nice change of pace.
Yes...it would be nice to have a change of pace and not have two of the same cars in the garage no matter how much you may appreciate your TL.
When test driving the G35 coupe...try it with various configurations (MT/AT, base, performance wheel pkg, performance suspension pkg). Each has its own personality.
Keep us informed on your purchase research and decision.
I am 6'1." I test drove both the TL and the G35 and chose the TL for two reasons. I got more "stuff" in the TL. Blue Tooth, Sun Roof, wood grain trim...etc. It all comes in the TL without additional charges. The other reason is because I felt cramped in the G35. Granted, the G35 was a sportier driving experience, but the TL is not shabby by any means. The TL also gave me more room. I feel quite comfortable in my TL. I made the purchase 2 months ago and haven't regretted a thing.
It would be a HUGE mistake to buy another TL, just ridiculous, even though I was thinking about it. Thanks for the advice, I have to buy an AT sadly to say, because my wife absolutely refuses to learn how to drive an MT. Additionally the Infiniti dealer near me is a good one. But I am going to wait until the end of the month and ponder all the other great cars out there.
sport or luxury?
fun to drive vs nice interior?
not as much fun to drive vs average interior?
price isnt much of a factor....size isnt much of a factor.
WHAT DO I WANT!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!!!!!?!?!?!!
Don't listen to the rhetoric of the other forum board comparing the two cars along with the Saab. The discussion is too polarized and debative of two fine cars. It is fine to point out details...but isn't too cool, narrow minded, and arrogant to think there is a single choice (even if one car out-shines the other...I can always find alternate cars which can outclass the point).
As I mentioned in many of my prior posts. Get off the net...test drive...and make an informed decision.
Everyone has different needs and requirements. The key is that you will not go wrong with either the TL or G35.
BEAUTIFUL!!! :shades: Duhhh!!!!
Honestly, though, it wouldn't fit the TL philosopy. The TL isn't trying (and can't) out-sport the G. It's trying to make it comparable (and I think it succeeded) and more responsible or value-minded (sorry, I'm having a brain-freeze here!). A coupe wouldn't fit into that philosopy.
If you want a sports car get the infiniti manual coupe. Thats pretty much all there is to it. It is a sports car pretending to be luxury car.
But you have to be SURE you want a sports car. With this car you will feel every feature on the road. And if the highway you are on is surfaced by those white concrete slabs that tend to curve the car will shake up and down like crazy. And if you decide to slam on the gas you'd better be prepared to be driving at 80 mph very soon. And if you slam on the breaks make sure there is noone behind you.
Oh yeah and before you drive it make sure you raise the head rest to the level of your head because this car will cause your head to slam back to the headrest many times. The first several days I drove it the car gave me a painfull headache because of the constant shaking of my neck. But I am used to it now.
Anyways it is all worth it to me because the car is soo much fun!
Acura in the past segregated out the luxury sports coupe into a distinct model. Most recently, the ' Acura CL ' filled the coupe segment.
Although when the Acura Legend had an option of four door or coupe around the mid-90s ...the exteriors were distinctly different.
Either way...excluding the RL...Acura has recently been doing a good job with styling.
I sat in one on a recent oil change at my dealer and the fit, finish and styling is very clean and conservative.
As a matter of fact, it feels much nicer in the RL than the TL and I am a big TL fan.
even though the class of these cars includes the 330i, the A4, IS350 and so on....i dont think they price to these 2 cars.
those others are just enough out of reach that the TL and G35 are the true competitors on the $35,000 sedan comparo. the others can be had, but not comprably equiped.
i struggle with my choices everyday with these 2 cars. The G35 calls me with its driving characteristics, its very subtle but sharp styling and it ceatain options(keyless locks and start up). conversely the TL, does nothing for me really on the outside. but inside where i would be spending most of the time, its virtually flawless. an awsome 5.1 surround sound, great touch screen NAV...
i want the G35 driving features(and wheels!) with the interior of the TL
each day i want the other
the only thing its missing imo is the sound system. even though the TL's interior design is better, imo, if it just had a killer sound system, i would be sold...well, closely sold. i also prefer the touch screen NAV in the TL.
of course i could also say if the TL had push button start or "intelligent key" and RWD, i would be sold.
i am really torn. the NAV in the G35 didnt really impress me.--i like the bird eye, but no touch and it just looks out of place to me.
congrats on your choice!
Do you mean to refer to the G35 here? The TL has a great soundsystem! If so, what about the G35 gives it a better interior design?
the G35 is what i was referring to.
i need the exterior and driving experience of a G35 and a TL's interior
Thats why so many people voted with their wallet for the RWD G35 (3700 cars/month) and 2000+/month for 330i . I guess they all must agree with ur statement.
Too bad TL only gets 7000+ votes/month. :sick:
There are many car owners in the world who don't vote in edmunds' polls. Thus, your assessment is disingenuous. Secondly, not every buyer understands and/or cares about the importance of RWD for a true driving experience. The TL sells well and that is good for Honda, but it places 4th or worst in all these articles of comparison because of the FWD reason alone. The TL is a decent enough car, but it isn't a true sport sedan as defined by all of these magazines.
I dont think I said anything about voting in edmunds' polls. Eventhough you brought the fact that edmunds' most favourites entry lux sedan is the TL. Thats too bad isnt it.
Second I agree with you that's why I said its too bad that TL only gets 7000+ votes ($$$ votes). People tend to be so careless when they vote with their wallet
We know how each of you feel and these petty squabbles do nothing but get otherwise useful discussions closed.
Thank you.
i am just honestly stuck in deciding what i want more. touchscreen NAV, with killer 5.1 surround (i am a huuuuuge music buff) or fun to drive fewer gadgets
it killing me really. :mad:
:shades:
In your car-buying equation, you have a TL that has the interior design and features you want, but you don't like the FWD. You like the drive of the G35, but don't prefer the interior. I'm guessing the pros of the TL don't clearly outweigh the pros of the G and vice versa.
How will you mainly be using the car? If your drive is exclusively stop-and-go traffic, get the TL 'cause you'll have much more time to appreciate the sound system and interior while stuck in traffic. You can't enjoy the beneifits of a RWD platform when stuck behind a truck going 30 mph.
On the other hand, if your comute is mainly fast-moving highway miles (or it's a very short commute), and you like to take your car on trips for the weekends, that might make the G35 a better choice.
Hope this helps!
yeah, this will be my everyday car. i am 24 and have earned enough $$$ to have more then my everyday car. my wifes SUV and my car will be it.
i drive roughly 75 miles round trip a day--all hwy except for about 4. this makes me want a car that can really get after it on the highway, but at the same time pamper me with the tunes and giving maybe a back way to get to work to living up the drive....
oh crap! that puts me back at square one. a freakin' TL35 is what i need!
So each way you drive about 31 highway miles and 4 local miles. You know, on straight or only slightly-curved highways, you can't notice the difference between RWD and FWD (unless its raining, in which case FWD is better), and the TL will get you onto the highway quickly. Also, the TLs sound system gives minimal distortion, even at high volume and the insulation from outside noise is great.
Unless your going to be testing your 0-30 mph times and kicking yourself about the torque steer (are you going with an automatic? They don't seem to suffer from it), I think the TL is the way to go.
In fact, as I think about it (and, yes, I am a biased TL driver), the only way a G35 might be better than a TL for someone who's commute will make up the majority of mileage is if they drive on a real curvy road - hwy or local.
The TL will get >30mpg on the highway easily...even on twisty highways. The G35....my friends have indicated that somewhere in the low 20 mpg.
This is true to a degree. My 2005 G35 gets about 27-28 on hwys and about 20 in the city. But then again, I really push my G. I will, however, concede to the fact that the TL gets better fuel mileage. The G, IMO, is more of a sports car than a daily commuter.
And you are correct...if we wanted a daily commuter...there are other alternatives. And if we wanted to maximize mpg there is the Insight. Neither for me.
#1366 wrote: Currently I am getting a whopping 13mpg
#1253 wrote: I am averaging between 17-18 mpg driving moderately aggresive.
adpcs wrote : my gas mileage to be around the 15-16 mpg mark. I think that is unacceptable. My SUV gets 19 mpg in the same type of driving.
#1732 wrote : sure is when these people portray that the cars can get 18-25 mpg...
total bs!
They must've pushed the G too hard! :surprise:
I think they are neck to neck in all the comparo that I have seen so far.
Acceleration :
TL's best 0-60 is 5.7 secs, while the best G's number is 5.8 secs, 330i was slower back then. I dont need 0-100 number, cuz I wont be using it often.
HP : usually a rwd loose a small percetage of hp due its rwd setup. I guess that explains the 5.8 secs
Handling
67.5 mph in slalom, one of the fastest that goes thru those cones.
Skidpad numbers: TL =0.89G --- G35 0.90G
I agree with what you said before "the 3 series only bested the G in handling on a road course. Those are hard pressing corners that aren't typical of "most roads in America".
RWD, I had a bad experience with snow in a friend's mustang GT. And yes snow tires help a bit, but that would be unpractical. (snow and rain)
Interior : I spend a lot of time inside the car, and the TL has one of the best. Definitely not a cheap looking one.
Exterior : to me only the old 530i, the old 330i (too small but still nice), Audi, C-series and Acura TL.
TL's sales figure proves that styling matters. Around 7,000 cars each month while G only 3,500, 330i less than 2000.
Comfort : Subjective. but among its competitor, TL is one of the most comfortable.
MPG : Highway mpg is very impressive. 34mpg @ 70mph.
Resale value : Nothing to worry about, being the best seller compared to G35/330i, I'm sure it wont be short of buyers.