1965 Pontiac Safari wagon. At first I was gonna say a Catalina Safari because it looks like it's on a shorter wheelbase, but back in those days, I think the Bonneville Safari was on the same 121" wb. The other Bonneville models were on a 124" wb, all of it added in a somewhat useless area behind the back seat, yet ahead of the axle. They'd use the same roofline, doors, glass, etc as a Catalina, but would stretch the rear quarters. I guess that would've been harder to do with a wagon, since you'd have to stretch the roof as well, plus the rear side windows.
Here's another tank. My mom doesn't remember the model year. That's one of my sister's high school friends, and they still talk on the phone all the time. Just like high school.
That's a 1960 Buick wagon, but I'm not sure of the model. That year Buick had a LeSabre/Invicta/Electra lineup, but I don't think they offered wagons in all of them. My guess is a LeSabre.
Could be a '60 - I would have been 8 when she got it.
Did you notice how the lower chrome trim on the side is missing from the passenger door back? The rear door almost looks like a replacement - my sister had at least ten wrecks in high school so I wouldn't be surprised if it had some body work.
My brother managed to kill the transmission in this one too, but it was always one of Mom's favorite cars. It was gone before I got my license.
I think this sort of Mitsuoka is a Galue, although it looks longer than a Galue III, so perhaps this one is the even better looking Galue IV ? The Galue III was based on the Nissan Fuga. Only MItsuokas I've seen in UK have been Viewts, although there is at leas one Orochi coupe registered in Britain, because I've seen pictures of it...
If it wasn't for the "Nissan" and the "coupe" words in your paragraph, I'd have no clue what you were talking about. :confuse: The whole paragraph sounds funny.
Steve - Don't be so fast to blame your brother for killing the transmission on your 1960 Buick wagon - IIRC, these boats had what was called a 'Turbine Transmission' - kind of like a modern CVT, but it somehow used oil pressure instead of gears! A friend of mine had a 1961, and I remember the Turbine Transmission 'winding out' as you floored it - a weird feeling with no gear changes, just loud whining!!
Well, he blamed himself for destroying a tranny in the beast when I emailed the photo to him to see if he remembered the year. But now I can blame him for failing to check the oil.
"Monument Valley is listed as one of the filming locations in "National Lampoon's Vacation", so that could very well have been the spot where lark went airborne with the Truckster! "
Yes, I Tivo'd it and watched it last night - definitely Monument Valley!
I prefer the '54s to the finnier '55s. The do look a bit stodgy in certain body styles but with the right body and trim they look quite nice, especially compared to other '54s.
Chrysler's were the best looking MoPars that year.
It's always hard for me to tell with the '65 Buicks. The full-size and mid-size cars look so much alike that the scale is difficult to judge without some external reference.
It's definitely an intermediate '65 Buick. I'm gonna go with Skylark, because of the standup hood ornament.
While GM's '64-67 intermediates all rode the same ~115" wheelbase, the B-O-P models were stretched out about 10-11 inches more than the Chevelle, giving them a much more substantial look. The Chevelle was around 194-195", whereas the BOP cars were more like 205-206". Olds and Buick really did a good job making the intermediates look like the full-sizers in 1965. At a quick glance it's often hard to tell them apart, unless you actually see them side by side, or see another car nearby to use as a reference for size. IMO, Pontiac's 1965Tempest/LeMans didn't ape the big cars nearly as closely in style, so, it always stood out as more distinctive to me. Somehow it also looks smaller to me, although it's the same size as an F85/Cutlass or Special/Skylark
I'm gonna guess it's an '86 Cutlass Ciera. IIRC, they went to composite headlights for 1987-88, and then got a new C-pillar for 1989, which was a bit more rounded and eliminated that rear quarter window.
I know those FWD A-bodies are nothing to get excited over, but I've always kinda liked the Cutlass Ciera. I didn't care for the Century too much because it tried too hard to be pretentious, while the 6000's attempt at being a sport sedan was pretty lame, and the Celebrity just seemed cheap. In contrast, I thought the Ciera balanced it all out pretty well. While it was rendered obsolete almost immediately by the 1986 Taurus, I imagine if you wanted a cheap-to-fix, durable car that would last awhile, the Ciera would've been a better bet.
The wheels were pushing me to guess older, as they are similar to the mid '70s Cutlass Supreme... but, the nicely integrated bumper was telling me it was newer... You are probably right..
My girlfriend (no, not the current one..lol) had an '87 Celebrity.. or, as we affectionately called it, the POS. But, her company car was a spiffy '90 Century, so it was hard to choose between them... :sick:
Dunno, the year but yes, that is your father's Olds Cutlass Ciera. It's still a common ride for the geriatic set, Yes Andre, they've proven to be much better in the long run than the glichy, rust-prone Taurus/Sable
Unfortunately their very popularity saddled Oldsmobile with the Old Fart image it could never shake.
Yeah, it's an 85 or an 86, I can't see if it has the high mount rear light, to be sure. That front clip was only used in 85-86 I am pretty sure.
My family had a Ciera when I was a kid, it seemed like a decent car...it really felt like a step up from a Celebrity, especially inside. It was replaced by, what else, a Taurus.
I'm gonna guess it's an '86 Cutlass Ciera. IIRC, they went to composite headlights for 1987-88, and then got a new C-pillar for 1989, which was a bit more rounded and eliminated that rear quarter window.
Nice analysis Andre, I was thinking of the exact same thing. It got me thinking.....good thing we can discuss these matters here (composite headlights, changed C pillars) without fear of ridicule from wives, family, and non-car-buff friends. :P I conditioned my wife to these things BEFORE we got married, so if I talk about stuff like that she's not surprised anymore. And on a side note, BEFORE the wedding I told her ALL of my car stuff (brochures, die-casts, magazines) comes with me as one package, no exceptions.
Myself, I had an 86 Celebrity in 96, which I truly enjoyed driving. It was so comfy, with a plush bench seat in the front, and overboosted steering that you could turn with your pinky.
I didn't care for it much so I left it unlocked with open windows wherever I parked it. Surprisingly nobody tried to steal it. :lemon:
As for these cars, I think Buick built their's for the longest time, up unitl 92 or 93 iirc. And yes, you'd mostly see retired folk in them.
As for these cars, I think Buick built their's for the longest time, up unitl 92 or 93 iirc. And yes, you'd mostly see retired folk in them.
Believe it or not, both the Century and the Ciera were offered up through the 1996 model year! IIRC, they were both still the top selling cars of their respective nameplates (although with Buick it might have actually been the LeSabre), and were only discontinued because of stricter side-impact standards that were supposed to be enacted for 1997.
I could be wrong, but I think the Celebrity and 6000 were dropped after 1990? It got me thinking.....good thing we can discuss these matters here (composite headlights, changed C pillars) without fear of ridicule from wives, family, and non-car-buff friends.
Heck, sometimes I disturb myself when I think of all the useless trivia that gets stuck endlessly in my mind.
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No doubt a Falcon expert could tell the MY by the grillework>
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and here's a '61:
Did you notice how the lower chrome trim on the side is missing from the passenger door back? The rear door almost looks like a replacement - my sister had at least ten wrecks in high school so I wouldn't be surprised if it had some body work.
My brother managed to kill the transmission in this one too, but it was always one of Mom's favorite cars. It was gone before I got my license.
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Only MItsuokas I've seen in UK have been Viewts, although there is at leas one Orochi coupe registered in Britain, because I've seen pictures of it...
If it wasn't for the "Nissan" and the "coupe" words in your paragraph, I'd have no clue what you were talking about. :confuse: The whole paragraph sounds funny.
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You sure you don't mean the '55-56 Chryslers, AndyS? I always thought Mopar's '54 models were kinda stodgy looking.
Yes, I Tivo'd it and watched it last night - definitely Monument Valley!
Chrysler's were the best looking MoPars that year.
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Agreed.
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While GM's '64-67 intermediates all rode the same ~115" wheelbase, the B-O-P models were stretched out about 10-11 inches more than the Chevelle, giving them a much more substantial look. The Chevelle was around 194-195", whereas the BOP cars were more like 205-206". Olds and Buick really did a good job making the intermediates look like the full-sizers in 1965. At a quick glance it's often hard to tell them apart, unless you actually see them side by side, or see another car nearby to use as a reference for size. IMO, Pontiac's 1965Tempest/LeMans didn't ape the big cars nearly as closely in style, so, it always stood out as more distinctive to me. Somehow it also looks smaller to me, although it's the same size as an F85/Cutlass or Special/Skylark
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I know those FWD A-bodies are nothing to get excited over, but I've always kinda liked the Cutlass Ciera. I didn't care for the Century too much because it tried too hard to be pretentious, while the 6000's attempt at being a sport sedan was pretty lame, and the Celebrity just seemed cheap. In contrast, I thought the Ciera balanced it all out pretty well. While it was rendered obsolete almost immediately by the 1986 Taurus, I imagine if you wanted a cheap-to-fix, durable car that would last awhile, the Ciera would've been a better bet.
My girlfriend (no, not the current one..lol) had an '87 Celebrity.. or, as we affectionately called it, the POS. But, her company car was a spiffy '90 Century, so it was hard to choose between them... :sick:
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Unfortunately their very popularity saddled Oldsmobile with the Old Fart image it could never shake.
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My family had a Ciera when I was a kid, it seemed like a decent car...it really felt like a step up from a Celebrity, especially inside. It was replaced by, what else, a Taurus.
Nice analysis Andre, I was thinking of the exact same thing. It got me thinking.....good thing we can discuss these matters here (composite headlights, changed C pillars) without fear of ridicule from wives, family, and non-car-buff friends. :P I conditioned my wife to these things BEFORE we got married, so if I talk about stuff like that she's not surprised anymore. And on a side note, BEFORE the wedding I told her ALL of my car stuff (brochures, die-casts, magazines) comes with me as one package, no exceptions.
Myself, I had an 86 Celebrity in 96, which I truly enjoyed driving. It was so comfy, with a plush bench seat in the front, and overboosted steering that you could turn with your pinky.
I didn't care for it much so I left it unlocked with open windows wherever I parked it. Surprisingly nobody tried to steal it. :lemon:
As for these cars, I think Buick built their's for the longest time, up unitl 92 or 93 iirc. And yes, you'd mostly see retired folk in them.
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Believe it or not, both the Century and the Ciera were offered up through the 1996 model year! IIRC, they were both still the top selling cars of their respective nameplates (although with Buick it might have actually been the LeSabre), and were only discontinued because of stricter side-impact standards that were supposed to be enacted for 1997.
I could be wrong, but I think the Celebrity and 6000 were dropped after 1990?
It got me thinking.....good thing we can discuss these matters here (composite headlights, changed C pillars) without fear of ridicule from wives, family, and non-car-buff friends.
Heck, sometimes I disturb myself when I think of all the useless trivia that gets stuck endlessly in my mind.