Mystery car pix

magnette

That is a Hotchkiss Gregoire - circa 1950/51 - 2litre ....

texases

You got it! Wonder if it came with the optional cowl guns...French company founded by an American...

andys120

fintail

Left row - 64 Ford (Country Sedan I guess), 59 Ford (same thing), 64 Ford.

Middle row - hard to tell, 63-64 Rambler? Then a pair of 61 Chevys.

Right row - can't tell, 64 Pontiac, 58 Dodge?, can't tell

And a Falcon/Econoline van coming up from behind

stephen987

Based on the hood scoops, I'd venture that the '64 Pontiac in question is a GTO.

davethecarnut

Yeah..it does look like a GTO....kinda stands out from the rest of those pedestrian sedans and wagons. Is that an airport?

fintail

The glory days for Detroit.

texases

" Is that an airport? "
I'm guessing more like some kind of toll booth or border crossing?

andys120

Yeah..it does look like a GTO....kinda stands out from the rest of those pedestrian sedans and wagons. Is that an airport?

It's not an airport but the Northern terminus of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel at Cape Charles VA @ the foot of the Delmarva Peninsula. My wife calls it the "Bridge-Tunnel-Bridge-Tunnel" since it goes underwater at several points to allow big ships to use Hampton Roads.

Stephen is right, those (non-functional) scoops are an easy way to distinguish the Goat from the LeMans from a distance.

Fintail is right too, the photo was likely shot in '64 or early '65. A few years later any group of cars this size would certainly have included a VW, Volvo or something else from across the ocean, you are looking at the end of Detroit's Golden Age.

I'm not sure of the Dodge behind the Poncho, it could be a '58 or '58.

Note the open position of the rear tail window in the '59 Ford Wagon. A/C was far from universal in that era.

berri

I'm thinking the middle headlights on the Dodge may be a bit smaller which would mean it is a '57. The car behing it might be a '61 Pontiac? Really enjoy the American car pictures from the 50's and 60's!

stephen987

Note the open position of the rear tail window in the '59 Ford Wagon. A/C was far from universal in that era

Not only that--it wasn't all that reliable in cars that did have it.

andre1969

behind the '64 GTO is definitely a '58. The '59 had much more overdone "eyebrows" over the headlights. It's hard to tell what's behind that Dodge, as there isn't much to go by, but what little there is makes me think of a full-sized '61 Pontiac. Just something about the placement of the turn signal and the way the bumper curves up slightly at the edge.

andys120

boomchek

That looks like an Ascari GT. I think Automobile mag or Motor Trend had an article about it this month. I read it but can't remember much... my memory id getting bad.

I recall it has a twin turbo V6, but otherwise it doesn't borrow any parts from other mass produced cars.

imidazol97

Is the green car front center a 1961 Oldsmobile?

andys120

Kinda hard to say, the windshield does look like a GM compact from the early-mid '60s.

allenjackson

I think you need to learn when to say when. The face of the Pontiac Astra is pretty good, but you went overboard the side inlet (Corvette that actually need the brake cooling don't have inlets that big), the Pontiac logo painted on the side (stuff like that doesn't come on concepts let alone production cars) and the rims.

magnette

Artega GT - I think I posted this one earlier in the year, as I had a photo taken at the Frankfurt Motor Show last year...

stephen987

I think you need to learn when to say when. The face of the Pontiac Astra is pretty good, but you went overboard the side inlet (Corvette that actually need the brake cooling don't have inlets that big), the Pontiac logo painted on the side (stuff like that doesn't come on concepts let alone production cars) and the rims.

Are we even looking at the same picture? I don't see the side inlets or the Pontiac logo on the original picture at all. And the "rims" are just 13-inch plastic wheel covers.

stephen987

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For advice about buying and selling on eBay, check out the eBay forum here at Edmunds.

andys120

Mix of domestics and imports in this still from Ruiss Myer's Beyond The Valley of the Dolls (1970):

stephen987

Foreground left: Plymouth midsize wagon, 1968-69 (Belvedere or Satellite), '68 Ford LTD 2door HT, VW Beetle (age indeterminate).

Foreground right: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, ca. 1968.

berri

Maybe a red 60 Chevy in the background.

fintail

Yep I see the 60 Chevy too.

I think the big Ford is a 69 or 70.

karsick

The Beetle has the 4-bolt rims, so it's a '67 or newer.

Man, are we a sorry bunch of trivia nuts :P

andys120

The Beetle has the 4-bolt rims, so it's a '67 or newer.

It's wearing hub caps, how can you tell how many bolts are holding the rims on? :confuse: IIRC my Type 1 '65 Beetle had four bolts (and identical hub caps/trim rings) .

IMCDB thinks the MoPar wagon could be a Dodge Coronet.

It's interesting that we can spot that '60 Chevy from so far away. Doesn't the white trim on the side denote an Impala?

boomchek

"That's what I meant to say Artega!

andys120

BTW Artega GT is correct

magnette

stephen987

Obviously one of the BMC Farina sedans. But which one?

I'll guess it's an Austin Cambridge.

magnette

Yes - easy one really - its an A60 Cambridge from 1961/69 - this one is registered in mid-1963 (in Kent)

stephen987

I wasn't sure whether it was the Austin or Morris variant, so I took a guess. Some folks here in the States seem to think Detroit's "Big Three" invented badge engineering--but IMHO Detroit had nothing on BMC/BL.

To wit:

andys120

The one at the top left is the Austin Maxi, the white one in the middle right is the Riley 1100. The car on the lower left is one we got in the USA, as the MG1100. The other three are Woolsleys, Lanchesters or something.

All are variants of BMC's big FWD Maxi platform (mid 60s-mid 70s IIRC)

magnette

These were all variants of the BMC 1100/1300 range, (ADO 16), which pre-dated the Maxi, and was smaller.
From the top....
Austin 1100 Mk III 1971/4
Morris 1300 Mk II 1967/71
Vanden Plas 1300 Mk II 1968/74
Riley - this one was a Riley Kestrel 1965/7 (but later it became Riley 1100 when they made the MkII, and there was also a Riley 1300 Kestrel 1967/8)
MG 1300 MkII 1967/8
Wolseley 1300 Mk II 1968/73

lostwrench1

Yes, Impala.
The Nomad wagon also had the white trim.

wgrafer

The big Ford is definitely a 1969 LTD.

andys120

texases

Jensen Interceptor, about '74? But the hood doesn't look right... :confuse:

karsick

... how about the bonnet? J/K

texases

Right you are! I should have also mentioned that the vents in the wings don't look right either :P

andys120

I should have also mentioned that the vents in the wings don't look right either

Possibly because it is not a Jensen Interceptor.

stephen987

Possibly because it is not a Jensen Interceptor.

RIGHT!

It's a Jensen FF, with full-time four wheel drive courtesy of the Ferguson tractor people. The twin louvers and longer bonnet are the giveaway. The grille is also narrower than that of an Interceptor.

andys120

Yup, Jensen FF is correct.

andys120

kyfdx

'79 Mazda RX-7 GSL..

Ford Focus

Mercedes C-Class

fintail

I think the MB in front of the Focus is a W201.

I guess B on that RX would make it a 1984 registration.

andys120

Dunno the year but it is a 1st Gen RX-7 ('79-'85), obviously top of the line UK spec.
Wheels are non-stock (too wide for fenders).

Ford Focus is correct, I can't even make out the car in front of it.

andys120

kyfdx

'67 Galaxie?

stephen987

That would be my read on it. It's definitely a '67--my folks had an LTD with the same grille. And I don't think the fastback hardtop body came in either lower (Custom/Custom 500) or higher (LTD) trim level, so I'd say it's a '67 Galaxie 500 XL.