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2013 and earlier Volkswagen Tiguan Lease Questions

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  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    I am still working on a deal. I actually would like to get into the Tiguan Wolsburg edition, because I don't like the cloth seats, and I HATED the sound of the stereo in the s base model. If the $1500 incentive is for real, I am think I should be able to get that car with $1k down for under $350/month ; ) and I'd be happy with that..also looking at the se wagon and almost liked the ride of that one better..
  • dmr02ddmr02d Member Posts: 5
    Hugo -- do you have the price you were being offered on that car?

    Let me share with you my current deal:

    It's MSRP is $25,325 and it's invoice is $23,963. Your price is $22,495 plus tax, tags, freight & processing fee. I would have a total of $3,742.86 due at signing, with $1500 down, taxes, tags, title, and first payment.

    Dude, if I were you, and I could afford it, I would go for the 'burg edition. It's so sweet... but with a kid, I'm a little cash strapped!
  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    can anybody look at this and tell me if I am doing this right?
    this is what I am coming up with on the FWD Tiguan Wolfsburg, no extras, using the Edmunds TMV with $1000 down:
    MSRP $ 28850
    TMV $26927
    - $1500 cash incentive this month
    - $1000 down
    +$ 625 bank fee
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    $25 052 cap cost
    residual value @ 52% =$14846 , MF is .00099 for a 36month/10000 miles lease

    Depreciation fee = $283.50 (cap - resid devided by 36)
    Finance fee = $39.49 (cap + resid x .00099/MF)
    =$322.99
    + 28.67 tax 8.875 (Brooklyn, NY)
    =$351.65/month

    My dealer is claiming to be giving me the car at invoice, quotes the invoice price at pretty much the same as the Edmunds TMV, so $400 more than listed on Edmunds, but comes up with $370/month
    Again, this is with everything rolled in, ONLY DMV and first month upfront and $1000 down.
    So he is coming up with something that is around $650 more than what I calculated, and reallly what I am shooting for is getting a deal that's below the TMV.
    Two things: am I missing something in my calculations, or are his wrong?
    Secondly, am I still realistic when I think I can get the deal down to below TMV? Possibly to around $325 - 330/month?
  • luvautoluvauto Member Posts: 25
    You may wait till the end of month - Memorial Day weekend. There may be more incentives...
    (a) factory-to-dealer cash is $250.
    (b) lease rate(MF) may go down to 0 by the end of this month.
    (c) Announced Residual Value or Dep. is technically % of MSRP not the net Cap Cost. So, in your case 52% of MSRP 28850.
    (d) For SE model, my friend was told it is 54% for 10K/yr 36mo. (52% for 12K, 50% for 15K).
  • leadfoot1202leadfoot1202 Member Posts: 8
    Hugo, the VW dealer in Brooklyn confirmed that $1,500 incentive?? I just got off the phone with a dealer from VW in Staten Island and they said that was up in April.. however cars.com says its good through 6/1/10
  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    $1500 dealer incentive is still going, also just read in another reply that there is a $250 incentive from Manufacturer to Dealer. That won't show up on the invoice from what I understand..
    Call around, see who has the car you want in stock first and then negotiate. Whoever has the car is much more likely to work with you.
  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    Thanks for that awesome info!!
    I had calculated the residual with the MSRP.

    I called around and actually found the deal I want. The dealer has the car in stock, and although I don't need the car until later in June, when my other lease runs out, wants me to give him $500 to hold the car..fair enough, but if it's true what you are saying and there is a chance of better deals being offered on memorial day weekend, can I hold the car and re negotiate at that time?
  • dmr02ddmr02d Member Posts: 5
    Hugo... Congrats!

    This goes out to anyone willing to help... A dealer is offering $339 a
    month for Tiguan S with nothing down.

    I know this is no comparison but I am looking at the RAV4 Sport for 307 a month. Tough decision with a kid along the way and living off one income.

    Thoughts?
  • dmr02ddmr02d Member Posts: 5
    Does anyone know if there will be VW specials for Memorial Day? I'm looking at the VW Tiguan S.
  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    I was told there wouldn't be, but until the end of the month at least there will still be the $1.5 dealer to you and $250 manufacturer to dealer incentive. Last two weeks in June will be last weeks of the quarter, so dealers need to make their sales. If you can wait that long, pick a rainy day, walk in prepared and get your deal.
    This is my tip: don't just deal with one dealer. It is absolutely amazing how the offer changes from dealer to dealer. I fought with one dealer for two weeks over what i wanted and why I got there, and why he couldn't give it to me. Then I gave him my absolute max, he gave me his absolute bottom and it still didn't fit. He made me feel bad about how much time he had spent on my deal...if you are a working person, this is when you start to laugh...but, saying "I wanna earn your business" comes right after. Nice one!
    This is what you need to know, and it's not rocket science. Do your calculations beforehand: http://www.leaseguide.com/lease08.htm
    They will tell you that there are mandetory protection kits, mats, whatever...call around..chances are, that's a lot of bull. If you look at the edwards TMV price, the msrp, and you can find out what the mf and residual value of the car are...you can ask the dealer, it really isn't a secret, and it's not negotiable, you can figure out what you wanna pay for that car. Next step: find all the dealers within 25/50 miles of you zip code, find the dealer that has your car in stock....this is important!! They need to get rid of those cars, and they will be willing to make deals to get cars off their floors!! Getting a car from another dealer still counts as a sale, but they are not going to go out of their way to get you to buy the car. If you find a couple of dealers that have that car, ie, Jetta, Wolsburg, Autom, panoramic sunroof & navigaion...tell them what you want. Don't ask for what they offer. Say this:I want this car, on this lease for this amount.....some people will give you the finger, some will give you the deal, but just about 10 - 20 bucks more a month..times 36...and some people will say just outright : i got it, come get it...the amazing thing for me was to realize that all deals are different,,,so many things play into it..don't waste your time with one dealer. Don't get personal, it's not. Every dealer has a different incentive:
    I was looking for one car with three dealers: one said that what I was offering was insane, one was going back and forth with me about 10 bucks here or there and how he was working for me, another gave me the price I wanted right away, no questions asked!!

    Hope this helps..
  • ywpywp Member Posts: 3
    vw tiguan wolfsburg
    36 mo, 15K per year, 3000 down, 350/mo inc tax. 14000 residual value.
    Any input will be helpful, thanks!
  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    edited May 2010
    whats the msrp on it?
    are you getting AWD or FWD and you are paying bank fee, first month and dmv upfront PLUS $3000 down, correct? Only taxes are rolled in?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    edited May 2010
    Hey Hugo. Through June 1st, Volswagen Credit's buy rate lease money factor an residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Tiguan Wolfsburg 4WD with 10,000 miles per year are .00118 and 53%, respectively.

    I personally prefer 36 month lease to 48 month leases, but if you were to lease this truck for 48 months its numbers would be .00199 and 46%.

    When negotiating your deal on this truck, make sure to take advantage of the $1,500 cash incentive that is currently available on leases of it through VW Credit.

    I believe that VW Credit is waiving its security deposit requirement on all new vehicle leases at no charge in May, so you won't have to pay that.

    However, you cannot avoid paying its acquisition fee, which unfortunately was recently raised to $625. You can either pay that charge at lease signing or add it to your truck's capitalized cost to bake it into your monthly payment.

    You are always free to lease any vehicle without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction.

    Dealer-specific fees like doc fees are between you and the dealer. Most dealers charge some sort of doc fee. Try to look at the big picture and consider the charge part of your vehicle's total price. If the total selling price that you are being charged for the Tiguan that you want, inclusive of the doc fee, is less than the total price that you would have to pay at the other dealers in your area, it doesn't really matter how that price breaks down.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Please see my previous post for the numbers that you're looking for, hugo5. You're right, Volkswagen's current lease program on the Jetta is more attractive than its program on the Tiguan.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi dmr02d. So far it doesn't appear as through Volkswagen is making any enhancements to its May programs for Memorial Day. There's still some time left in the week, but if history is any guide Volkswagen probably will not introduce a special program for the holiday weekend.

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  • hugo5hugo5 Member Posts: 68
    I was looking at the 2wd, not 4wd and they said it was .00099 mf and only 52% residual...true?
    also, when you are saying that they are waiving the security, is that the same as what they are referring to as 1st month due at signing?
    That would mean that when they are saying they will pay my last month on my other car, really they are just waiving what they are supposed to be waiving in the first place, or is this separate?
    Cheers,
    Matthias
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey Matthias. The numbers for a 36 month, 10k lease of a '10 Tiguan Wolfsberg 2WD are .00099 and 52%, just as you were told.

    Volkswagen is not waiving the first month's payment on leases right now. That means that you will have to pay your first scheduled monthly payment for your lease at signing.

    If the dealer is paying your final payment on your current lease, they are using money from the profit that they are making on your current deal to do so. Unless a manufacturer is running an official early lease termination program, having the dealer absorb any of the remaining payments on your current lease usually hampers one's ability to get the best possible deal on their new vehicle.

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  • ywpywp Member Posts: 3
    i dont know, is the msrp 14000+350 x 36 + 3000 = 29600? i guess yes only tax are rolled in. is this a fair deal?
  • ks206ks206 Member Posts: 2
    MSRP - 31800

    Base cap cost - 28153

    Cap cost reduction - 1500

    Adjusted Cap cost - 27533

    Residual - 53%

    Money Factor - .00118

    Term - 36 months/ 10 K per year

    Sales tax - 6%

    Acquistion fees - 700

    Monthly payment - 364.63

    How is this deal? Should I agree for this? Am I missing any hidden cost?

    Also about VW Credit 1500 - Is it available on all states?

    Thanks in advance.
  • ywpywp Member Posts: 3
    msrp 28775, i paid 25944. the 3k does includes bank fee, first month, dmv upfront and tax. but this is a FWD only without a sunroof. Is this a good deal?
  • peterson6peterson6 Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2010
    vw tiguan wolfsburg with navi (2wd).
    36 mo, 15K per year, 1200 down, 510/mo inc tax (orange county, CA).
    Any input will be helpful, thanks a lot!
  • ozionozion Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2010
    I'm in Orlando, Florida
    Tiguan S, automatic, the only option added is mat kit, so here's the quote given to me by the dealer through email
    Msrp $25725
    Sale price $22850
    DLR Fee $595
    Lease ACQ Fee $625
    Tag & Title $218.50
    Residual .52% of MSRP
    Payment is $329.87 X 36 12K Per Year (Includes all taxes, 1ST Payment Fees &Payoff) plus no down

    Thanks!
  • buckeye1111buckeye1111 Member Posts: 2
    On Long Island NY... 2010 Tiguan S - Front wheel drive

    36 mos / 10 K per year lease
    Extras - after market nav system
    $351/mos with 1400 out of pocket (1st month, destination, tags)

    anyone know if this is an ok deal ? I see posts about people getting the Wolfsburg edition with sunroof for this price
  • roadmaster45roadmaster45 Member Posts: 13
    Hello buckeye1111, At what dealer did you go to
  • buckeye1111buckeye1111 Member Posts: 2
    a couple on LI and in queens.... why ?
  • roadmaster45roadmaster45 Member Posts: 13
    just wondering thats all I had recently bought a jetta TDI last year was wondering at what dealearships you went to thats all
  • roadmaster45roadmaster45 Member Posts: 13
    Also just wondering if you went to specific dealer that I went to had good results
  • vwgirl78vwgirl78 Member Posts: 1
    Hi all need some help to see if this is a good deal...

    I am being offered:

    2010 tiguan worlfsburg edition, 18 inch alloy wheels and panoramic sunroof
    for 48 months 12,000 with $1,616.38 due at signing monthly payments including tax $434.91.Dealer price on car is $28,235.

    Should I get it? I don't want too high of a monthly payment but should I negotiate no down? Does anyone have an idea of drive off cost for this car? What should be the least payment to put down to get this car ideally?

    THANKS
  • emgilliatt12emgilliatt12 Member Posts: 7
    Hi car_man, looking for the july lease numbers on a tiguan wolfsburg 4 motion...36 month 12k per year, thanks! ...ive been quoted .00121 and 51%, just wanted to see if the dealer is being honest...thanks again!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Here you go, emgilliatt12.

    VW Credit's July buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a Tiguan Wolfsburg 4Motion with 12,000 miles per year are .00139 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tiers.

    When negotiating your deal on this truck, make sure to take advantage of the $1,500 cash incentive that Volkswagen is currently providing on it.

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  • wrinniwrinni Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2010
    Hi Car Man,
    I am looking to lease a Tiguan this month. Can you give me the numbers for August and also if VW is giving any incentives. Thanks
  • jooon3jooon3 Member Posts: 9
    Last Friday, I signed a lease last Friday (Aug 13, 2010)
    I actually planned on purchasing a cheaper car but ended up with this.
    I want to share the numbers with you.
    Was this a good deal?

    Sticker Price: $35800
    Sale Price: $33621.74
    Acquisition Fee: $625
    Doc fee: $250
    Gross Cap Cost: $35690.56
    Residual Value: 18273.30 (51% with 12K/yr)
    Cap Cost Reduction: $0
    Tax: $1193.82 (6.75%)
    Rent Charge: $1495.70 (Money Factor 0.00077)

    Monthly Payment: $525.36 (w/ $629.86 out of pocket including license/title fees)
  • delta737hdelta737h Member Posts: 626
    jooon3,

    Outstanding deal! Great job! Congrats! The money factor is excellent and the selling price is fabulous.

    Enjoy your new Tiguan!

    John

    PS: Looks like you're in Ohio or NJ. I'll guess Ohio!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I'd be happy to help you out, wrinni. You never mentioned what trim level, term, or mileage allowance you're interested in, so I had to make some assumptions. Let me know if you want something different.

    Volkswagen Credit's August buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Tiguan S 4Motion with 15,000 miles per year are .00046 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    Volkswagen is only providing cash incentives on leases of this truck in certain regions. If you let me know what state you are in I can tell you if there's any cash in your neck of the woods.

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  • wrinniwrinni Member Posts: 6
    Hi Car Man,
    I'm sorry I didn't give you all the info. I'm looking at the wolfburg edition for 36mos at 12,000/yr. I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada, I hope there's some kind of incentive for my area. Thanks for your help.
  • swifty3swifty3 Member Posts: 12
    Hello Car Man & kyfdx,

    I am a GA resident and just test drove a 2010 Tiguan Wolfsburg Edition FWD. I think I am ready to make a lease deal on this vehicle but want to make sure I am getting the sharpest numbers offered by VW. I have a credit score just above 700. What is the current Factory Invoice for this Wolfsburg Edition (no added options)? And what is the current MF and RV for a 36 month lease at 12,000 and 15,000 miles per year?

    Thanks for your help!!
  • swifty3swifty3 Member Posts: 12
    Also, for comparison purposes, could you please provide the exact same info, but for the Wolfsburg 4motion as well! Thanks Again! Can't wait to hear back!
  • emgilliatt12emgilliatt12 Member Posts: 7
    Hi Car Man, I am also looking for the numbers for a 36 month 12k per yr lease for a 2010 wolfsburg 4motion, and a 2011 SE 4motion, no options...thanks again!
  • enthusiastdreenthusiastdre Member Posts: 55
    Car_Man and Mods,

    Could you please provide rates for the 2010 and 2011 Tiguan S? 12k / 36 months.

    Thank you!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Not a problem, wrinni.

    Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Tiguan Wolfsburg 4Motion with 12,000 miles per year are .00119 and 50%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    When negotiating your deal on this truck, make sure to take advantage of the $1,750 cash incentive that Volkswagen is currently providing on leases of it through VW Credit.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hello swifty3. Here's the new numbers for you.

    Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Tiguan Wolfsburg FWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00103 and 47%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, its residual values would be 2% higher.

    As I just mentioned in my previous post, when negotiating your lease on this truck, make sure to take advantage of the $1,750 cash incentive that is available on leases of it through VW Credit.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi emgilliatt12. I believe that I just posted the numbers for the 2010 model.

    Volkswagen Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Tiguan SE 4Motion with 12,000 miles per year are .00086 and 55%.

    There is no lease cash yet on the 2011 model.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Here you go, enthusiastdre. VW Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Tiguan S with 12,000 miles per year are .00105 and 58%.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2010 model .00051 and interestingly 51%, respectively.

    There's no lease cash on the '11 model and $500 on the '10 model.

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  • nickr1nickr1 Member Posts: 51
    Hi, I heard there were a lot of changes coming for the 2011 Tiguan, can anyone tell me what they are? The VW site appears to have photos and specs on just the 2010 even though they have a lease offer on the 2011 that is identical to the 2010, but in their build feature they don't even say what model year the Tiguan is, how weird is that? Kind of an important detail, isn't? Why is their website so behind the facts?
  • darsh_vaderdarsh_vader Member Posts: 1
    i test drove a tiguan and instantly came to love it.. thinking of buying it outright. what is the fair price for a standard SE model with no sun/moon roof ? is 28K a fair askprice before TTL ?
  • nickr1nickr1 Member Posts: 51
    Did you see any difference between the 2011 and the 2010? Thanks.
  • dsvogel18dsvogel18 Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone have current VW money factor and residual for 2011 TIGUAN SE, 12k miles/year?
  • stuartshustuartshu Member Posts: 18
    Can anyone provide current MF's and residuals for 2011 SE 4motion and SEL 4motion for a 10,000 mile/yr lease?

    Also, is VW offering any other leasing suport?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi dsvogel18. Volkswagen Credit's October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Tiguan SE with 12,000 miles per year are .00086 and 54%, respectively.

    The money factor for the SE 4Motion is the same, but its residual value would be 1% higher.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I'd be happy to help you out, stuartshu. Volkswagen Credit's October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Tiguan SE 4Motion with 10,000 miles per year are .00086 and 56%, respectively.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2011 Tiguan SEL 4Motion are .00057 and 53%.

    VW is not currently providing any cash incentives on leases of this truck.

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