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I'm new to leasing and think it is a great fit for me. I am looking at an Audi TT...2002, 2003, and 2004. Is there a difference in the money rates and residuals for these if financed through Audi. Also Carman, if you have time I'd appreciate a money rate / residule on a Porsche Boxster for 2001-2003. I'm trying to decide between both but have a feeling Porsche is out of my league.
All leases would be 15k 36/mo.
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First, you need to compare your current (not the lease-end) buyout amount with your car's current market value. For example, lets say you find out (from the leasing company) that it will cost $10,000 to buy out your lease now. Let's say that the car is worth $8,000 as a trade-in. In this case you are $2,000 "upside-down."
Second, find out what it will cost to fullfil your remaining lease obligations now. Typically, this would be the number of payments remaining plus any early termination fees plus any wear & tear and mileage charges. Let's say that you add all that up and it comes to $2900.
Comparing the two scenarios, you are better off trading your car in and adding $2000 to the price of the new one than terminating the lease and adding $2900 to the price of the new one.
The details for the proposed lease are:
- 15,000 miles per year for 36 months using
- US Bank with 57% residual and .00168 money factor
- The MSRP for the vehicle built on the website AWD, premium plus package with additional options and $625.00 destination charge is $41,688.00
- I requested gold emblem package, which will cost me approx. $130.00. He'll throw in the pinstripes free.
- The selling price he gave me is $40,700.
- I told him to figure the lease with $2500.00 down payment.
- Gap insurance is included.
- After running all of this through his computer software which calculates the lowest monthly payment, he quoted me a monthly payment of $598.34 which includes everything (taxes, tags, etc). The lease Kit evaluator in the leaserate.com rated this lease as 'fair', which I consider not really that good.
This Lexus dealer is the only one in this area. The next closest one would be 1 1/2 - 2 hours away.
With the information that I have provided,how do you rate this lease? What would be a good monthly payment? Thanks in advance
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I'm new to leasing and think it is a great fit for me. I am looking at an Audi TT (2002/3/4) (there's no difference between model years really) and an Infiniti G35 2003/4. Is there a difference in the money rates and residuals for these if financed through Audi.
Also Carman, if you have time I'd appreciate a money rate / residule on a Porsche Boxster for 2001-2003. I'm trying to decide between both but have a feeling Porsche is out of my league.
All leases would be 15k 36/mo.
Thanks!
This will be my first lease so I'm unsure of what is good and what is not. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. I live in Central Pennsylvania.
The details for the proposed lease are:
- 15,000 miles per year for 36 months using
- US Bank with 57% residual and .00168 money factor
- The MSRP for the vehicle built on the Lexus website AWD, premium plus package with additional options and $625.00 destination charge is $41,688.00
- I requested gold emblem package, which will cost me approx. $130.00. He'll throw in the pinstripes free.
- The selling price he gave me is $40,700.00.
- I told him to figure the lease with $2500.00 down payment.
- Gap insurance is included.
- After running all of this through his computer software which calculates the lowest monthly payment, he quoted me a monthly payment of $598.34 which includes everything (taxes, tags, etc). The lease Kit evaluator in the leaserate.com rated this lease as 'fair', which I consider not really that good (unless they didn't have taxes, tags, insurance, etc. included in their amount).
This Lexus dealer is the only one in this area. The next closest one would be 1 1/2 - 2 hours away.
With the information that I have provided,how do you rate this lease? What would be a good monthly payment? Thanks in advance
I'm thinking of participating in VW's "pull-ahead" program and turning in my Passat early. I've seen several postings about lease numbers for the Passat, but haven't had any luck finding my answers. For example, I saw numbers for leasing a Passat for 15k miles, but I'm looking to lease one for 12k miles. Anyway, just wanted to know what you thought of the numbers I've received from one VW dealer for a 36 month term (with about $650-700 down):
For the Passat GLS 1.8T (fully loaded), the dealer gave me a purchase price of $22,809 with a buy out of $13,036.45 (49% residual) and a money factor of .00215.
For the Passat GLX, he quoted me a price of $26,526 with a buy out of $14,726.40 (48% residual) and the same money factor.
Does this seem to be a reasonable deal? If not, what kind of numbers should I be looking for?
Also, this same dealer had a 2003 Passat GLX that was used as a demo. It's got 6,091 miles on it and the initial sales price was a ridiculous $27,988. What are your thoughts on leasing a demo with that many miles on it.
I could use some help quickly because I scoped out a couple of VW dealers this weekend and not surprisingly, there are some pretty slim pickings when it comes to their 2003 inventories. Thanks so much.
TR
One more thing . . . Just curious, but what kind of residual and money factor should I be looking for in a 2003 Passat W8? I doubt my wife would go for it, but I was going to work out the numbers anyway. Believe it or not, there seemed to be more 2003 W8's on the dealer lots than the GLS and GLX model. Too over-priced and/or poor marketing? Thanks again.
TR
What is the current residual/ money factor for a 2004 Honda CRV EX AWD through American Honda Finance.
36 months
12,000 miles per year Columbus Ohio.
Thanks !
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In order for me to give you an idea of what the TT's current lease program should be like, I need you to tell me exactly which model you are interested in, i.e. a 2003 Audi TT 1.8T Coupe, a 2004 TT 250 Roadster, etc... Also, if you want me to give you an idea of what the lease program should be like on the Infiniti G35 I need you to let me know if you are interested in the Sedan or the Coupe.
I really do not keep tabs on the lease programs for used vehicles, but if you would like me to give you an idea of what Porsche's current program is like on the 2003 Boxster, let me know.
Talk to you soon.
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I don't know exactly what the market is like for this vehicle right now so it is difficult for me to give you an assessment of the selling price that you were quoted. The Edmunds.com True Market Value for a typical 2004 Lexus RX 330 is around $600 below MSRP, so from that standpoint the price that you were quoted looks reasonable. You may want to stop by the What Did You Pay section of the Smart Shoppers Message Board to see if you can get any feedback from other community members about the prices that they have paid for similar models lately. I can however, give you an idea of what this truck's lease payment should be like, utilizing the numbers that you provided me with. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2004 Lexus RX 330 using the money factor, residual value, and pricing that you provided in your post, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be right around $579.
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As far as demos go, they are fine provided that you get a large enough discount on them. My main problem with demo vehicles is that most dealers never seem to be willing to provide enough of a discount me to personally justify purchasing what essentially is a low mileage used vehicle over an equivalent brand new one.
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Thank you for the quick response. I think I have been officially talked out of the Audi TT by some work friends...and they point me towards Saab and BMW.
Any idea what the 2004 BMW 325i, 325xi or 325Ci will be at 15k 36/mo.
Also, in your opinion which luxury cars tend to lease cheaper and hold their value more? Benz, BMW, Lexus, Inifiniti, Audi..? Thanks!
Thanks for your responses. Sorry I forgot include the model year. I'm looking at leasing a 2003 Passat (the GLS 1.8T, fully loaded or the GLX) for a 36 month term with 12k miles. The information I got from one dealer was as follows:
For the 2003 Passat GLS 1.8T (fully loaded), the dealer gave me a purchase price of $22,809 with a buy out of $13,036.45 (49% residual) and a money factor of .00215.
For the 2003 Passat GLX, he quoted me a price of $26,526 with a buy out of $14,726.40 (48% residual) and the same money factor.
And I know what you mean about dealers not wanting to lower the price on demos. I got a purchase price quote from another dealer for a brand new GLX for $26,526 - that's almost $1500 less than the demo with 6k miles.
Thanks so much for all the great info. you provide!!!! I'm pretty sure many of us would walk into dealerships completely clueless.
TR
So, the deal finally went down last week -- I would up with the even BETTER model -- the car stickered for $46,355 ... I was able to get ALL the certificates AND the additional incentive $$$ that you told me about. They used the right money factors and residual values and I even got 12,000 miles per year, instead of the 10,000 that was advertised !!! I only put down the first month and the bank fee, and some small miscellaneous fees (total DUE was $1000 even), and my payment is in the very low $400/mo range (WITH TAX!!) .. they actually appreciated that I had EVERYTHING worked out on paper in black and white -- but I NEVER expected the deal -- I actually wound up like $10 a month LESS than I should have been !!! I still don't know how they did it, but I REALLY gotta thank my sales guy and the sales manager, and finally the finance guy/business manager -- TOP NOTCH and EXCELLENT GUYS !! It started out a little rough, but the fact that we were all straight with each other definitely helped out ! If anyone is in the market for this car, I HIGHLY recommend these guys -- I can give ya the info.
I don't know HOW they did it, but they did it !!
So, sorry for the long rant -- but Car_man, I owe ya -- BIG TIME !!!
Oh, and by the way -- the car is PHENOMENAL !!! Anyone looking for a great lease deal, CHECK THIS CAR OUT !!!
THANK YOU !!!!!!
Welcome back. I am trying to get a car before CA triples the DMV fees.
I am interested in getting a 2003 Mazda Tribute. I am trying to decide whether to lease or buy. What is the money factor and the residual value on the 2003? (for a 3 year 12,000 mile lease) The MSRP is $24,295 and invoice is $22,800.
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could you please look up the current residual/MF numbers for 2004 Mercedes C230 sedan for 36mo/12000mi, and 48mo/12000mi.
thanks
All of the brands that you mentioned in your post tend to have very solid residual values. None of them really jumps out as having a more attractive lease program than the others at this point because they all recently introduced their 2004 model year lease programs and are not providing much in the way of lease support yet. As the supply of '04 models increases and their residual values fall slightly we will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak and see which manufacturers provide the most lease support.
Check back with me towards the end of the week if you would like me to give you an idea of what BMW's new October lease program is like.
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List price 51,295, I'll pay fees and taxes seperate (outside) the car monthly lease pmt.
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As far as how much money you should pay for a Honda Civic right now goes, you should be able to find information on this subject in two places. The first is the Honda Civic: Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion that appears in the What Did You Pay section of the Smart Shoppers Message Board. The other place is the Edmunds.com New Car Price Guide section of this site. There you can look up the True Market Value for the exact Civic that you are interested in to see approximately what others are paying for it at this time.
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I was quoted:
42 mo BMW Financial Lease
15,000 miles annually
58% Residual
.00255 money factor
Is this in the ballpark ???
The dealers that mark up the money factor call the lower amount the "buy rate" and their marked up factor the "sell rate". You might try telling your dealer you want your lease deal done at the "buy rate" money factor, as this is just extra profit for the dealership.
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Thanks as always for providing this board with invaluable information. I live in the NY metropolitan area. I'm looking to lease a large SUV for 36 months with 15k miles per year. Can you please provide the money factor and residual for 2004:
- Armada SE and LE with 4WD
- Suburban LT 1500 with 4WD
- Expedition Limited with 4WD
Can you also let me know the #'s for 2003 Suburban and Expedition.
Thank you
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The VW dealer I'm dealing with says the residual values have changed on the Passat GLS 1.8T(auto) and Passat GLX(auto). He's saying now the residual on the GLS is 48%. He didn't mention the residual on the GLX. He did, however, say that my Base MSRP was incorrect. I know you just gave me the money factor and residual values, but do you know if they've changed for October? Thanks so much!!
trhee
I am interested in leasing a 2004 BMW 330i. I want to know what would be a good lease for a fully loaded model(i. e. premium package, sports package and cold weather package). I have a similar questions based on a previous posting regarding the 5 series except that I am interested in the 3 series. Is the money factor and the residual value for the 3 series similar to the figures that you have posted earlier for the 5 series? If not, what do you think a good negotiated lease payment should be? Thanks, jjnez.
thanks