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Thanks for your reply. The monthly lease payment is $283, $0 down, 48mo, .00209mf, $8821 buyout. I plan to purchase at the end of the lease(the only reason I am leasing is b/c my company allows me to deduct $200/mo. of lease but not purchase payments.) What do you think? Thanks.
P.S. Your site is awesome.
I am not personally familiar with how sales tax is calculated on leased vehicles in your state, but you may be able to find out more informaiton on this subject by visiting one of the following sites: CyberDrive Illinois or Illinois Department of Revenue.
All of the cars that you mentioned are very good vehicles. The two that probably have the most attractive lease programs available on them right now are the Lexus ES 330 and the Infiniti G35 Sedan, but a lot depends upon the MSRPs and selling prices so we would have to calculate some lease payments to figure out exactly which car will be the cheapest.
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I can lease the Acura MDX Base for $399/Mo for $999 down, 36 Months Lease. DO you think that is a better deal than either of the two Toyota's ?
Thanks so much. You have been very helpful.
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Can't thank you enough for this information!! It will help tremendously....
If you don't mind, I may need to check back with you in a couple weeks to see what changes April brings to A6 3.2 MF/lease program --
Will you have insight to this on the first of the month?
thanks again !!
trying through the dealer and also BMW financing to explain the rent charge to me. They both refer me back to one another. Stonewall. You saved the day. I had been putting too much emphasis on the negotiated selling price of a 525i and overlooked the MF completely. Never again.
I went to my local dealer found out that the 2006 E350 Sedan was available rather than the 2005 E320 I had you comment on in an earlier posting.
Could you please provide me with the 39 mth, 15K miles/yr money factor, residual, and any "dealer cash" for a 2006 Mercedes E350 sedan located in NJ.
Thanks in advance
Option 1.
Volvo v50 2.4i
MSRP $26,685 (includes $695 destination charge)
Selling price $24,314 (includes option of stability/traction control; also includes $1250 loyalty incentive and X plan discount)
Option 2.
Honda CR-V EX automatic
MSRP $24,065 (includes $515 destination charge)
Assume sale price of $22,730 (Edmund's TMV in our area)
Thanks for your help.
On the CR-V prices paid board.. They are reporting CRVs selling for invoice..
kurtnew, "Honda CR-V: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #1512, 10 Mar 2005 7:24 pm
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Thinking of leasing a 2004 or 2005 suburban LT1500. Would you please tell me the money factor and residual assuming a 36mth lease and 15k per year. Thanks for your help.
Go8
Could you please provide current money factor rates/residuals for MB CLK320 Coupe/E320 for 36/48 months lease. Are there any specials going on right now?
(cars.com shows 0.002876/57% and 0.002872/48%
for 36 and 48 months)
Many thanks in advance,
Greg
By the way, thanks a lot for your help- you really provide a great service for us lease newbies.
md_outback
I am presented with an option from the dealer to purchase a 2002 BMW330xi this week at $27.5k. The dealer will do a certification (CPO), new tires, brake pads and inspections and extend the warranty to 100k.
The residual value is $25,280. With three payments left ($550) I am currently over the mileage by 7,300 miles at 20cent per/mile. (Current mileage 52,300 miles.)
I am looking at another lease option this time for 20,000 miles/yr.
The vehicles quoted thus far are:
1) Infiniti M35 msrp 51240, dealer quote 49,000 and pmts of 699/month two years $1700 in deposit, fees.
2) Audi A6 msrp 51820 and quotes 49,262
Lease mileage is .15 cents per mile in excess of 15k....25 cents per mile if you exceed it.
Lease Example with $2,000 down...
36 month lease, 20,000 miles/yr.
Base Payment $692 plus tax
15,000 miles per year would lower the payment by $60 from the 20k mark.
Question:
1) Is the BMW deal a good one to pass on?
2) Are the quoted leases fair?
Thanks for your time.
You've been a great help. I have something to go to the dealership with now. (Now, if I can figure out if I like the TL, G, or ES330 more, I'd be perfect!)
Here's a naive question. Infiniti tells me I'm 'either approved for the lease program or not,', and Audi tells me 'Honda slides the scale based on credit score'. (My credit is fine, but I don't want to fill out a credit app at either dealer until I'm ready to pull the trigger) Does Infiniti really only have 1 tier for leasing?
Thank you sir...
I posted the other day asking for info on the 9-3 Arc. I'm also interested in info on the Linear. Can you give me MF and residual info for 24 and 36 month leases at 12k miles per year. Also, is the lease cash and bonus cash the same on Linear as on the Arc? Thanks again for your help.
I am considering a jeep liberty limited, loaded for 25,765. they are asking for 325 mo. for 39 mo.at 1200mi. ballon. no mony down just tax title. what do you think
Thanks you are great.
>>49,000 and pmts of 699/month two years $1700
>>in deposit, fees.
You really should get ALL the numbers if you are getting a lease quote: what is the money factor and the residual. I assume 20k miles per year?
I am surprised you could get so much off the new M - most dealers are not discounting them at all (unless you are on the VPP and work for Nissan).
$699 does not sound that bad if that is 24 months, 40k. I didn't see M35 numbers for that, but the M45 numbers for 24/30k are 71% and 0.00168. So I figure it drops 2% or so for 20k per year on the residual and 1-2% because it is the M35. So 68% of $51,240 = $34,843.20. Using the M45 MF gets $730.72 per month base payment.
I assume the $1700 out of pocket would be $700 or so first month and the rest is the acquisition fee and tax/tags?
Does not sound that bad at all - but I have not seen the exact figures for an M35 2yr, 40k lease.
Dennis
Audi is running a special 24 month lease.
Thank you
The best quote I have been given is $40,259.00 including $570.00 destination. I was told that the only additional charges are Virginia sales tax (5%), tags and $100.00 processing fee.
So...I feel this is a pretty fair deal. I am now moving to the "let's talk about financing" stage.
36 month/15,000 mile lease.
I am going to trade in my 1993 Acura Vigor with 109,000 miles because I don't want to deal with the hassle of selling it. (It's been a wonderfuly reliable car!) So they will tell me tomorrow how much they will give me for it, but for the sake of argument let's say it's $2500.
QUESTIONS:
1. Must I put that money into the lease deal or can I put half toward the lease and put the rest in the bank?
2. I see many of you asking about what type of money factor you should expect. Isn't that dependent upon an individual's credit rating? My credit is good. What kind of money factor should I expect?
3. What kind of first payment can I expect?
4. Do you find that shopping around for a lease deal is beneficial? Any places you'd recommend?
Thank you in advance for all your words of wisdom. I am sure I will have many more questions so I hope you will all put up with me.
RG
The dealer says that the Residual would be 69% and a money factor of .0006. Selling price is $18,950.
When I plug in these numbers I get $218 a month.
I'm a little concerned that Car Man says that the residual should be 59%. I'm also still confused with how you can get $218 a month with 59%.
MSRP around $35,000-$36,000. Looking at 42 months, 18,000 miles needed.
They will give me about $2,500 for my car on trade.
Lease rates are coming in at $390 or so per month.
What's a good lease deal on this one?
Thanks.
2005 Altima 2.5 S Auto w/Splash Guard, Protection Pkg & Mats (model #05715/05215) subject to availability to qualified lessees through Infiniti-Nissan LT. $1,699 initial payment required at consummation. Includes $1,500 consumer down payment, $199 first month payment, $0 security deposit. MSRP $20,620 includes destination charge. Net capitalized cost of $19,042 includes a $550 non-refundable acquisition fee ($795 non-refundable acquisition fee for residents of New York and Rhode Island). Dealer discount required, which may affect actual price set by dealer. Monthly payments total $4,776.72. At lease end, purchase for $14,434.00, plus $150 purchase option fee (except KS & WI), plus tax, or pay excess wear and tear plus $0.15 per mile for mileage over 12,000 miles per year. Lessee is responsible for maintenance and repairs. See participating dealer for details. Offer ends 03/31/2005
14,434 / 20,620 = 70% residual. If you plug these numbers into a lease calculator you get a MF of 0.0002 to get the $199 per month payment. They are rolling the acq fee into the lease. If you don't want to put anything "down", then we add $1,500 to the cap cost: $19,042 + $1,500 = $20,542 net cap cost. Plugging this into the calculator shows a payment of $261.50. Your dealer is discounting the car more - but must also be charging you a doc fee or something. To get $245 a month your net cap would be $20,150. If we take your selling price (they say) plus the $550 acq fee this leaves $650 missing.
But as you can see, if you take Nissan's advertised special and pay nothing down you would be paying MORE than what your dealer is asking. So your dealer is not TERRIBLE - just needs to be a little better. I saw an ad for a Boston area dealer showing the 2.5s for $149 a month with $0 down - but even if they made $0 on the sale I don't see how they could do this.
Dennis
Here are my numbers for your case:
Scenario 1, you pay first month, acquisition fee, title and license at inception:
MSRP: 20,550
Price: 18,950
Cap Cost: 18,950
MF: 0.0006
Residual: 69%
Paid at inception: 1st month + Acq. Fee (550) + Title + License
Calculations:
Residual Value: 20,550 * 69% = 14,179.50
Depreciation: 18,950 - 14,179.50 = 4,770.50
Depreciation Per Month: 4,770.50 / 24 = 198.77
Rent (financial) Charge Per Month: (18,950 + 14,179.50) * 0.0006 = 19.88
Payment (before sales tax) = 198.77 + 19.88 = 218.65
Scenario 2, you pay first month, title and license at inception, and the acquisition fee gets rolled into the lease payments:
MSRP: 20,550
Price: 18,950
Cap Cost: 18,950 + 550 = 19,500
MF: 0.0006
Residual: 69%
Paid at inception: 1st month + Title + License
Calculations:
Residual Value: 20,550 * 69% = 14,179.50
Depreciation: 19,500 - 14,179.50 = 5,320.50
Depreciation Per Month: 5,320.50 / 24 = 221.69
Rent (financial) Charge Per Month: (19,500 + 14,179.50) * 0.0006 = 20.21
Payment (before sales tax) = 221.69 + 20.21 = 241.90
As you can see, it all depends on what "zero down" means to your dealer. Pay attention to what the contract says and make sure the money is going to where it is supposed to. I believe though that the MF and residual your dealer is giving you are right and current. At the end of last month the terms were 70% and .00021, as Dennis mentioned.
One last thing to consider, the residual differential between the 12k and 15k is 1%, so getting extra 6,000 miles of allowance will cost you about $205, as opposed to $900 if you had to pay for them at the end of the lease.
Hope this helps.
>> your dealer is giving you are right and
>> current. At the end of last month the terms
>> were 70% and .00021, as Dennis mentioned
If you go to the Nissan web page and look at the specials you should see the exact deal I posted: $199 a month with a 70% residual. The offer expires at the end of this month - so it must still be good.
Dennis
I am still in the market for a Sequoia. Can you tell me the current lease rates and residuals for March? I am looking at a 36mo/12K lease on a SR5. Thanks.
tcmotorcity
Thank you!
What is the MF and residual for a 2005 Saab 9-3 Aero? 36 months, 15k miles per year. Also, can you tell me all the lease cash and dealer cash I'm eligible for? I've noticed you stated that the incentives vary depending on geographic region. I am in the state of Florida. Thanks a million!
Saab 93 Linear
Selling price $27,570
24 month/12K
Residual 59%
MF .00001
Acq Fee $3350 (this is the "due at lease inception" #, includes "down pmt., sec. dep., acq. fee & first mo. pmt." I also added the $350 disposition fee into this figure - not sure what that is)
When I plug all these numbers in, the calculator gives me $659.72 monthly pymt. Saab is offering $248.21. What am I doing wrong?
>> leases lately. If I had to guess at what its
>> lease money factors were like on this car
>> right now, I would say that they probably are
>> around .00300 to .00320 for consumers who
>> qualify for its top credit tier. I can tell
>> you that Mazda is providing $1,000 customer
>> and $1,000 dealer cash on leases of the '05
>> RX-8 through its captive finance company.
I dealer with very aggressive pricing told me 0.00320 MF and 50% residual on a 36mo/36k lease - so that sounds about right to you?
I looks like I can do these deals for an 05 6mt RX-8 w/GT pack an NAV - $33,685 MSRP:
Captive MAC: purchase price will be $31,080 - $2,000 in rebates = $29,080. Assuming I pay acq fee and tags at signingw/first payment, then with 0.00320 and 50% then residual is $16,842.50 and the base payment will be $486.88.
3rd party bank: 0.00215 (I should get a discount on this rate) and 49% . I am not clear if I get the $1,000 rebate or not if I do 3rd party (I know the dealer does not get the other $1,000). Cap cost in this case will be $30,681 (w/o rebate) and residual is $16,506 so I get $495.20 base payment. If I DO get the $1,000 with my own financing, then I would get $465.27 per month. Both of these would be a little less if I get a discounted rate.
A similar left over 04 would be $28,739 if I don't go through MAC. With a MF of 0.00251 and a residual of $15,030 would be $490.67.
I don't know what the MAC 04 lease numbers would be, but there is a $2,500 MAC rebate that would apply. IF the residual was the same as the 3rd party and maybe a 0.00350 MF it would be $455.80.
Finally, if I purchased the 04 car via MAC for $26,239 (not counting tax) and getting about 6% from MAC it would be $507.27 for 60 months, w/o tax and $542.78 w/sales tax.
So I guess I need to get the 04 MAC lease numbers and find out if I get the $1,000 for a NON-MAC lease so I can tune the choices a little more.
Dennis
The dealer told me I could get the car for $200 over invoice because I have a GM supllier's discount code. So by looking at Edmunds data, I get the following for a SAAB Arc 9-5 Wagon:
MSRP = 37050
Invoice = 34653
thus my price would be aprox. 34853
Can you provide lease numbers based on that?
Thanks again
DOWN - $2500 cap reduction plus tax plus first month's lease and waiver of security deposit.
TERMS - $350/month with 12,000 miles per year for 48 months.
Residual of $17,000.
Is this a 'slick deal'? Need to know if I should go for $340?
Can you provide me the residuals and money factors for 36/39 and 42/48 whichever months you have access to and are the best combination (with or without Nav, if it matters)? The car would be registered in AZ. Thank you so much.
mister22
Go8
smith83.
I have never leased cars before, and I'm not a very good negotiator as well. Are there any promotions by Mazda going on in Southern CA?
Will someone share his/her experience leasing Mazda RX-8?
Thanks much!
$550 acquisition
$299 doc fee
$500 college grad
$178.99 first month (including sales tax)
$135 in registration fees
FOR $1663 out the door
This Altima S has fog lights, mats and coat protection.
Good luck to all!
In addition, the Mazda money factor is pretty high. They DO have $2,000 in lease cash to sweeten the deal but it does not lease well.
The best deal going now is to pick up a left over 2004 for cheap. Mazda has $4,000 in rebates if you finance the car with them. In addtion, dealers are selling them for invoice or up to $1,000 BELOW invoice. This means you can get a new 04 for as much as $5,000 below dealer cost - which is a pretty hot deal.
Where are you located in So CA? You want an automatic, right? What color or colors would you consider and which options? You want AT LEAST a sports pack car - since this ads the stability and traction control and HID lights. The touring pack (is overpriced) and adds the Bose stereo and moonroof, the gran touring pack is thr touring plus leather, bun warmers, mirror heaters.
Let me look and see what is availble near where you live and what the dealers that have them are saying.
You can e-mail me at: y2k_c5 (insert at sign here) yahoo.com if you prefer.
Dennis
I'm considering leasing a 2004 C70 HPT Manual. 3 yr 12k per year.
Thanks!
One of my local dealers has 14 on the lot and is advertising an LPT with an MSRP of $41,410 for $34,410.
I am pretty sure Volvo financial does not want to lease you this car - since you will be bringing it back at lease end. They can't get rid of them now, so they don't want it back :-)
I would GUESS that like on the Volvo "R" cars the cash is only good for a NON-Volvo lease. You can get your own quote (and get the lease) over at www.leasecompare.com . I put in an HPT for $36,000 with 1 mile on it and got a residual of $20,632 with a MF of 0.00251 and a monthly of $613 + tax. You Volvo dealer may have a non-Volvo lease bank that could give a similar or better number - if not you can do the deal with LC. Keep in mind this is leasing a USED car - we are WAY past the cut off for getting a left over with new money - so the rates will be higher.
Dennis
Well I did a little more hunting and I found my car (2005 RX 330 FWD) via Car Direct. They have quoted me a money factor of .00115 thru Lexus. Is there new support from Lexus for the RX330. I thought the rate was .00145 at the best? This was for a 36 mos Lease and %53 for Residual
BTW, I understand from the dealer that if the cap cost is under $40,000 then the pre-purchase mileage is .10 at time of lease and .15 for excess mileage at the end of the lease. If the Cap is over $40K then the mileage is .15 prepaid and .20 after the lease. Since my Cap Cost is at $41K, I am planning on putting an additional $1000 bring my cap down to $40K. I calculate a saving of $450 by me doing this. Have you heard of this before?
Thanks,
Jim
Sales guy we talked to said he could do 4K below MSRP on any 2.5 even if we ordered one new. This after i told him about my research that most ppl are paying invoice+ (500 to 1000)-incentive(2500). So, the cheapest one on the lot was 38kmsrp/34K selling.
About lease, i mentioned website deal, he said they would do a 0.0245 mf with 59% residual for 10K miles/36 mos. He says additional 0.00045 is because they need to make 'some' profit. Can i get a better deal that this on both cost price & lease terms?
TIA
nivas
Dennis
2005 Lexus RX330 AWD w/RSE & NAV
24 mo/15k mi – 57% Residual Value – Money Factor .00205 Base Rate
36 mo/15k mi – 52% Residual Value – Money Factor .00125 Base Rate
48 mo/15k mi – 43% Residual Value – Money Factor .00125 Base Rate
60 mo/15k mi – 35% Residual Value – Money Factor .00205 Base Rate
Add 2% to residual for 12k mi/yr