VW Passat Wagons (GL, GLS, GLX & W8)

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  • sniper5sniper5 Member Posts: 9
    The slippage you are experiencing sounds like a slipping clutch. I've replaced a few in my day. A clutch that is glazed over from slipping, or contaminated with oil from a bad oil seal could be the culprit. How many miles and how the clutch is engaged over a period of time will be cause for wear. Not familiar with the particular set up you have either mechanical or hydraulic, but it may be as simple as being out of adjustment.
  • texahootexahoo Member Posts: 6
    VWGuild, if the running change occurs in week 32 or 33, when should we expect them to be available here? Mid September?
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    Thanks for your last email...sorry, but the last couple of days have been
    very busy, and I have not had an opportunity to reply...

    I am projecting a Sept. 29th delivery for a customer of mine who is a
    vortexer, but that is with me getting it through the Port Process in
    less than half the normal time, and that is a Week #33 build...

    Will get back to you tomorrow...
  • familyofthreefamilyofthree Member Posts: 3
    first-time post from this vw shopper--thanks to all for the invaluable info on this and other threads.

    my wife and i need to have a new car in our drive by 9/15, and need to keep it as "stripped" as possible to keep the price tag down. we have narrowed our choices to a gls 1.8 passat wagon (01.5 or 02) or an '02 1.8t jetta wagon. we could live happily with a passat sedan if time runs out, but is it realistic to hope that this east coast shopper might take delivery on either of the '02s by september? there's very little to be had in these parts in terms of stripped passat wagons...

    facts/opinions welcome...
  • sistblsistbl Member Posts: 6
    Was told by my dealer the 2002 Passat wagons are in port but VW will not release them until October. He believes they will be released sooner saying VW has exaggerated time tables in the past. This is very frustrating since my dealer originally said they would be available in June,(see post #251). Why the delay? Another dealer told me it was because VW wants to reduce "old" 2001.5 inventory. WHAT INVENTORY!! vwguild, does any of this make sense?
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    02 Wagons should be released this week...I think it is YOUR DEALER that
    is trying to reduce his "old" inventory...July 1, 2001 has been the target date for
    release at the Port of San Diego for several weeks now...
  • mauislickmauislick Member Posts: 107
    Peter,
    let me know as soon as they swipe the bar code on
    WVWVD63B62E00**** and it becomes trackable.......
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    1st thing tomorrow...
  • tj_610tj_610 Member Posts: 132
    Any help appreciated. I'm new to this thread. Basically, wife and I are thinking about new car. Have been leaning toward minivan/SUV (Odyssey or Highlander esp.), but now are opening minds to the wagon idea. Here's the catch - I am 6' 10". We have a 7 month old, we would like to find a car that I can drive comfortably, but still have room in the back for rear-facing car seat in center position rather than behind passenger seat. I have been told that VW's, Beetle and Passat in particular, have surprising head and leg room. Any comment on this from Passat wagon tall owners?
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    6'10" is tough, as you well know, I'm sure in any vehicle...The GLX Passat
    will certainly give you more flex with the Power Seating...I have a customer who
    is 6'8" in a Beetle, but he is solitary; no family requirements...

    Best I can say is try the Passat and see how you fit...I know your feet won't, but
    trunk and leg variations are so individual that only you can be the judge...
  • spellboundspellbound Member Posts: 77
    Personally I found the power seating on the GLX did not seem to lower the seat as far as the manually operated adjustment. 6'10" is tough but the Passat seems to offer more seat room adjustments than other cars I tested. German cars in particular seem to have a lot of seat adjustment. Does the Odysset or Highlander offer enough head & legroom for you?

    In the end, you'll just have to try the fit of each vehicle.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Just don't get the sunroof. ;^)
  • djdaveringdjdavering Member Posts: 1
    VW Guild.. We want a 2002 GLX wagon asap at a reasonable amount over invoice. A dealer recently said that he will order one at $800 over invoice. 1) is this an ok deal and 2) how long should it take for delivery? How about for one manufactured after week 32 (when the new cd players are standard)? What will be the new MSRP?
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    If you can get that in writing; that would be a good thing...And if they can order
    you a car with a Scheduled Date of Production for Week #32 or later you
    will probably see the car in October...

    Make sure that they get a Request # and that your deposit receipt carries
    that same number...If the Dealer is not given this number you have not
    ordered a car..."something you heard somewhere"....

    Lastly, there should be no increase in price for 02s...Email me for further
    specific info if you need it...
  • wie_gehtswie_gehts Member Posts: 30
    I know it's not a wagon but the forum in the sedan section seems pretty much dead. Maybe some of you could answer my question regarding the 1.8Turbo engine? Thanks!

    My girlfriend just bought a new 2001.5 VW Passat GLS with the 1.8
    Turbo. I was on a trip for some time and her car got stolen, she
    needed a new one soon, anyway, she bought it by herself. I couldn't
    be there to go to the test drive etc. so I just saw the car first after she
    already bought it. In general, I am very impressed with the quality of
    materials, esp. the leather is absolutely incredible. Well, everything is
    perfect except the engine in my opinion. It's the 5 spd. Automatic, and
    the turbocharged engine now has 170 hp in this model. Anyway, I
    personally found the engine rather unrefined. It's not that I could say
    something is wrong with it, but I just can not imagine this is normal,
    so I would like to ask your opinion. Road and wind noise is perfectly
    fine, even at 80mph it's pretty quiet, also when cruising on the
    highway at constant speed (3000 rpm at approx. 80 mph) I found
    engine noise rather low. However, during acceleration, already above
    2000 rpm, when you step on the gas, the engine growls pretty
    unrefined.I am well aware that a 4 cylinder will never be as refined as a
    6 cylinder, but I've driven 4 cyl Corollas, the 2.0l 4 cyl. Jetta (the
    previous model) and a 1.6 l Golf 4 cyl. (not in the US), none of them
    has such an unrefined engine noise as this Passat. Frankly, it's just
    not what I expect from a car that cost $25k before tax. In addition, I
    only heard praise about this engine before. My 7 yo. Mazda does have
    a V6, and it doesn't come even close to the Passat in anything else,
    but the engine, when it's reved, it sounds like sewing machine, nice
    and smooth, nothing like the growl from the Passat, and it doesn't
    even have half the noise insulation the Passat has. There is no
    vibration problem or anything, it also doesn't sound as if anything is
    broken, it simply sounds pretty unrefined to me like an 1980s Volvo
    engine. I also hear the turbo kick in at approx. 2000 rpm, but it's just a
    very slight whistling sound, no problem at all, esp. with the radio on.
    Now, I would like to ask if any of you Passat owners can verify this
    info or does anyone think there is something wrong with that car? It
    only had 5 miles on the odo when she bought it, is otherwise
    absolutely flawless.
    Please give some advice from your personal experience. Thank you so
    much.
  • scirocco22scirocco22 Member Posts: 721
    Thomas-- I posted a response to your question over on the "Subaru Forester or VW Passat" Forum. Post #176.

    --'rocco
  • tj_610tj_610 Member Posts: 132
    ...for the advice. Think I will go try out the Passat and see for myself. dudleyr, you are right about the sunroof! :-) That's the #1 problem for me with my wife's Maxima.
    Surprisingly, spellbound, the Highlander was pretty comfy. Really not much driver comfort difference from the $$Sequoia$$ I sat in. Didn't drive it though, just sat in it. And, of course, as you know if you have kids, it's no light matter to just undo your inspected, rock-solid car seat and just plop it in to try. So I've yet to see if the car seat will fit. We may just end up getting out a tape measure for starters. Odyssey is not too bad. We were very disappointed in the Sienna, by comparison. (as you may tell, we are two of the millions that are biased towards Japanese makes). Must say though, the Chrysler T&C was VERY roomy for me.
    Regarding seat adjustments in German cars, I have ridden in some MB's over the years, and their seats are amazingly adjustable. I always figured that was a luxury car thing, though, not a German thing. Can't really afford a big Merc right now, though.
  • kakati1kakati1 Member Posts: 1
    Edmunds or the VW site does not seem to have
    the front and rear hip rooms in the Passat sedan
    and Wagon. I wonder why ?

    I need a vehicle wherein I can put a child seat
    (for a infant) in the center
    and yet fit two adults at the sides.

    choices are accordv6, new camry, new altima and
    passat wagon.

    If someone has any idea, kindly post it here...
    ...else I will just have to take a tape measure
    when I test drive this thing.

    --thanks.
    kakati@hotmail.com
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    Plenty of room for two on either side of the child safety seat...
    Take a CSS with you and two friends and try it out...
  • car4us3car4us3 Member Posts: 4
    VWguild,
    can you find out for me if there are any 2002, 5 speed GLX variants in port on the east
    coast, and will they be released soon? our dealer hasn't given us an order number and is giving us nothing more than promises right now. (like "I might have a car for you by next week")
  • uvdavaruvdavar Member Posts: 11
    Could someone please tell me any major changes to the 2002 compared to the 2001.
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    East Coast covers a fair number of miles...You need to email me
    and be more specific...City & State
  • jbuntzjbuntz Member Posts: 2
    I am looking for a vehicle to carry 2 people and 2 bicycles. I have measured the bikes and I need about 40 inches between the floor and ceiling and 5 feet in length. Do you know if this will fit in the Passat or Jetta wagon with the seats up or down? Thanks.
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    go to www.vw.com for all matter of interior and exterior specifications
  • prostfanprostfan Member Posts: 6
    Hi all,

    I ordered a 2002 variant on July 2nd and the dealer just informed me that it will be here by the 26th. Needless to say I am pretty excited about it. One question:

    When we go to pick it up what should we look for? This will be our first brand new car so I am just looking for advice on things to pay close attention to.

    Thanks,

    Chris
  • sniper5sniper5 Member Posts: 9
    Just picked up my new 01.5 black glx varient with 6 cd changer and 5yr 72000 btb today at 5pm. I had to decide betweed 4 varients located within 40 mile radius of me.three glx, one with manual and a gls. The sales and delivery were the absolute best auto buying ex[erience I have ever had, apart form the maiden voyage where 30 minutes out from the dealor, as the air was blowing ice cold, it went dead. So did the horn and cruise control/ being fixed hopefully tomorrow. Love the car. Love to wash cars, good thing. Lots of sleep lost. Lots of help from(vwguild) nothing but straight talk from him/.Thanks Peter.

    ps. $675.00 over invoice.

    Best regards to all those in waiting. I could'nt.
    Dave
  • razorclamrazorclam Member Posts: 6
    Hi there! Finally took the plunge and bought a 2001.5 Indiego Blue 1.8 Passat Wgn w/auto. After reading these great boards here and some solid research, the choice was pretty easy. The problem I had here in Washington was avialability in what we wanted. 1.8 Indg. blue auto sunroof. Hard to find but when I tried to order a 2002, they said I'd have to wait till winter since they're order quota was full. I checked around and this is true for Washington. Anyhow a deal went south on this wagon and I jumped on it. The lady who ordered it wantd every option (cold,monsoon,lux,lthr,auto,mudgrds) so wanting the right color and auto/sunrf, I paid the piper. 26750k. Pignatero in North Seattle was excellent to deal with and getting the 100,000 mi warrenty is what I wanted. What a rig!!! Even a coupla hundred over TMV is'nt bad for a hard to find wagon. Thanks everyone and especially VW Guild who I have alot of respect.........
    Cheers!
  • ajackson57ajackson57 Member Posts: 1
    I ordered a 02 variant and its supposed to be delivered sometime next week. Having watched the thread about the CD being standard equipment (wk. 33 run ...) I told the dealer I would like to wait until a wagon would be available with the CD. He said the distributor for the Northeast/New England has no confirmation of a CD showing up as standard equipment for the foreseeable future. I called Volkswagon Information (VI) 1-800-374-8389 and was told that the cars delivered in July should have the CD player. So I called Customer service 1-800-822-8987 to reconcile the dealer and VI. Customer service determined that it was the GLX models which will have a CD as standard equipment not the GLS. I'm convinced none of them know what they are talking about and/or are telling me what they think will make me "happy".
  • bpadvwbpadvw Member Posts: 1
    I live in the Upper Mid west and am trying to get a 2001.5 or 2002 GLX Variant I/ 4 Motion. Dealers are having a hard time finding one. Do you have any idea when 2002's might start showing up in the mid west?

    Also, anyone else - What have you been getting your Passats for price wise. What pricing I am getting (should they find a car) is about 4.5% over invoice. (i.. 31,600 range out of a MSRP of $32,925.
  • izabelajohnizabelajohn Member Posts: 38
    We are interested in buying a 2002 4motion GLX wagon with an in-dash CD player and would like to take delivery in mid October. How soon do we need to order one at the dealer? What is the realistic price we should expect to pay?
    I keep on reading about people doing their purchases through VWGUILD - how does it work? Any suggestions for good dealers - we live in Connecticut and were not impressed with the two dealers that we visited so far.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    It may be a bit early to shop for an October car. Why not look for a 2001.5 right now? If you can find it, the dealers are more likely to move on the price. With the new model year, they have until 2003 to sell it.
  • sniper5sniper5 Member Posts: 9
    Regarding Vwguild. click on his name and it will show you who he is and his occupation. He is readily accessible and a joy to speak to. No BS. Try Westervw.com and you will enjoy the info..

    AS Just got my black Variant glx this last Monday. The home link shorted out causing the a and several other electrical functions to quit but my dealer Maple Hill In Portage Mi,located and repaired the problem, It was the best experience in purchasing a car that I have ever had!!!!
  • shownufshownuf Member Posts: 2
    I'm from illinois and I bought my car from vwguild in california. It was easy, no hassles,great price, and handling it over the phone or by email is less stressful than going into a dealership. After all you can always hang up! This is the only way that I will ever by a car again unless I move to california and by it from vwguild. If you are worried about the fact that you're in connecticut and he's in california, don't worry- vwguild can do it easily and with no delay. If you want to talk to me about vwguild or about my car( 2001.5 passat wagon 1.5 manual cold weather package, monsoon sound blue/silver exterior/ charcoal grey interior) give me a call at 312 942 2310 at work or 773 238 2348 at home. My name is Dan.
  • kcc3kcc3 Member Posts: 13
    I picked up our 2002 Passat Wagon on 7/20/01 and need some help with accessories. I am looking to add the following items.

    1.) Mud guards / splash guards
    2.) Window tinting
    3.) After market CD changer to work with Monsoon system
    4.) Remote start system
    5.) Cargo Liner for the back

    Anyone have suggestions or horror stories regarding these items? In addition are there any good web sites to buy WV accessories?
  • cloud12cloud12 Member Posts: 7
    Hello, 5 days ago, I just picked up my 2001.5 Passat Station Wagon, V6-GLX - 5 speed. The dealer had to search the east coast for a wagon with manual trans. considering there were not many in the states in the first place. They told me that VW was no longer making 2001.5, and I was waiting for the right time to make the purchase (about 1 yr so) this was it. Out of the 3 cars they found I choose the Candy white with Black Leather. I got a fair deal and absolutely love the car. Although a few things worried me about the deal.
    First, can someone please confirm that the 2001.5, GLX Wagons should NOT say "GLX" on the back only "V6"? Second, does the window sticker say 2001.5 or just 2001? (I guess I don't trust anyone & thought they gave me a GLS loaded to become a GLX and I wasn't sure if they really gave me the 2001.5 or the 2001...mostly because I did not see the car when I ordered it). Thirdly, 2 days after I had it, I noticed yellow stains on the back bumper. I did not notice them when I picked it up. I brought it back to the dealer and they never saw anything like that before. Next wk it has to be sent out. They think its under the plastic bumper. Has anyone every experienced this before? Is it because its a white car and goes unnoticed with a color? Thanks in advance for your response.
  • spellboundspellbound Member Posts: 77
    I'm not sure about the GLX emblem on the rear however some items that differentiate a loaded GLS vs a GLX are power seats, climatronic automatic climate control, auto dimming mirrors and 16" Road America alloys. I have a loaded GLS wagon and I don't believe the above items are available on a GLS, only the GLX.
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    There is no GLX marking on any VW Product...except on the window sticker...
  • evilizardevilizard Member Posts: 195
    Take the VIN and give VW of america a call. They can tell you what the car was manufactured as and couple of other bits of info.
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    is quite easy...go to www.vw.com
  • jbariljbaril Member Posts: 43
    Just a new Passat wagon owner chiming in. Reflex Silver with black velour, 5-speed, monsoon, luxury package, cold pkg. A beautiful car, and it really MOVES.

    I traded in a 2000 New Beetle GLS (a leased car w/28K on it) which they wanted to give me $12.5 K for, even though book value was $14K and the payoff was $16K minus $300 deposit. Anyway, the final result was that they paid off the $15.7 on the Beetle and I bought the car for $300 over MSRP, so they made their gross look good, but I got much more for the Beetle than I thought I would. Even though it meant me paying more tax, the deal essentially was something like 500 over invoice for the new car when it was all said an done, which is better than TMV. Not too bad. Love the car.

    PLUS, when I finally realized it doesn't have a CD changer, the salesman says he'll privately and quietly take out the CD changer in the Beetle and install in the wagon. Which he does in about 5 minutes while I'm taking delivery. That saved $475 retail right there. I liked this dealership a lot. No bull@#$%!!!
  • hwangpkhwangpk Member Posts: 2
    sistbl...
    i was in your position exactly 2 mos ago...trying to locate a 2001.5 with your configuration, loaded 1.8t manual wagon. impossible to find, so i reluctantly placed a deposit on an order june 1. the car arrived today, aug.1, in v.2002...
    took it home for 4.5% over dealer invoice.
    good luck w. your pursuit.
  • sistblsistbl Member Posts: 6
    Thanks for the info.
    May I ask if you know what port your car came out of, ie, Houston, San Diego, etc...? How accurate was the dealer's estimate on arrival?
  • debteddebted Member Posts: 12
    I am new to this, but would like some advice. Esp from vwguild... Would love to buy a Passat wagon. went to the two dealers yesterday in my area (Columbia, SC) and have quickly figured out that it's near impossible to now get 2001.5 in what we want. (also figured out that one dealer is slick and other is great to deal with, promising $600 over invoice on the GLX. is this too good to be true?)
    anyway, so it looks like we'll get GLX 2002. have a '97 Cabrio in great condition with extremely low mileage, and need to sell that first. although we'd love to move right now on the 2002, we are also thinking it might be wise to wait until spring to sell Cabrio and then buy GLX. my main question is: are there any drawbacks to waiting that long on the 2002 model? likewise, any advantages (e.g. CD player may become standard equip) ? also, what does "variant" mean?

    thanks.
    one more thing, i know this is somewhat off the topic of this board, but if anyone has any experience in selling a great VW car i'd appreciate any tips. my car is a cream puff, and i'd like to get as much for it as i can (the dealers of course can't provide a good trade in price.)
  • focusmatt2focusmatt2 Member Posts: 106
  • glxwagon4moglxwagon4mo Member Posts: 121
    Variant is the VW enthusiast lingo for wagon, sorta like how Audi wagons are called Avants. (But AFAIK, variant is NOT in the official VW lingo).

    The beauty of the internet is that you certainly are not restricted to dealing with your local dealer if they are unwilling to help out or even if they just simply have a small allocation of wagons. VWguild has certainly been helpful to many on the forums, and you may also find some dealers in the region that would be willing to conduct the transaction over the internet. When we were searching for ours over a year ago, the internet salese manager at Fitzgerald VW in Maryland? were very helpful, but we dealer near us ended up getting one exactly as we wanted.

    As for the advantages for waiting for the '02 model, the main one is that VW is changing their BTB warranty to 4 years or 50K, but the free routine maintenence is being dropped. The powertrain warranty is also being dropped to 5yr and 60 K miles (I believe). Give the relatively short supply of Passat wagons, the usual end-of -model year deals probably won't significant.

    I your cabrio is in great condition, you could always put it up for sale thru the VWvortex.com (the VW enthusiast site). I also think that autotrader has an online site too.

    Good luck in finding your new car!

    George
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    The term *Passat Variant 23* is printed in Beautiful VW blue on
    each box that contains the Owner's Manuals for our Passat Wagons...

    Copies available via Fax....
  • bhpeeblesbhpeebles Member Posts: 3
    I talked with Peter, who fielded a few of my questions. It is refreshing to find someone who is helpful, even when there isn't an immediate benefit to himself.

    Couple of other things, Edmunds is my favorite auto site but there are a couple of things that are a little misleading. I've purchased 2 cars (2000 BMW and 2002 VW Passat Wagon GLX 4MO) and tried to use dealer holdback as a negotiating tool. Holdback does not truly apply to an individual car, it applies to a batch of cars. I found that dealers will not move at all on this and I just ended up getting frustrated over something that I couldn't use to my advantage.

    Second, the TMV of a Passat GLX Wagon 4motion is the same in Chicago, Las Vegas, NYC, and LA. I tried a bunch of different zips and different colors, but the TMV never changed. Edmunds has a disclaimer (See Beta Release 1.0 link) but it is not obvious. I wish they'd make it more obvious if they don't have a TMV - I'm not sure how that number got created. So I really don't have a good idea of what the true market value is for the 2001.5 or 2002 VW in Chicago.

    Anybody want to share his/her experience?

    BTW, I went to 3 dealers in Chicagoland and found no 2001.5 4MO GLX Wagons. All 2002's to be delivered shortly. Ours comes next week.
  • georgek44georgek44 Member Posts: 81
    The term "Variant" is used by VW for what is called a station wagon in the USA and an estate wagon in Britain. In the 1960s VW station wagons imported into the United States had "Variant" badges on the liftgate, as did the 1973 412 wagon I bought new in Sweden, with local specs. Many car models have different names in various markets. "Jetta", for example, no longer is used in Europe where it is sold as a "Bora". The EuroVan over there is called a Transporter, Caravelle or Multivan depending on how it is equipped.
  • kentceekentcee Member Posts: 3
    anyone on line familiar with saab wagons?
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