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Cool cars, fun to drive, excellent alternative to a BMW 5-series, Cadillac STS, etc, but like most high-line domestics, they take a huge hit on resale.
Of course, with all the discounts and rebates, you might be able to get a leftover 2003 for less than 30K, even though sticker must be at least 40.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I live in the northeast and I'm looking to trade in my 2002 Saab 9-3 SE with 15,000 miles. One dealer offered me $15,500 which I thought was ridiculous--way under book value. I'm sure everyone says this, but the car really is in excellent condition. Any thoughts on what would be a fair trade? Thanks.
We are going on week 2 with hubby's truck in the shop.
*must stay away from the car lots*
Auto/Manual?
What state are you in?
Interior/Exterior color?
Specific options ( leather, sunroof for example?)
Don't take it personally, just trying to help
I've learned two very important things hanging around here:
1. Throw the book away.
2. Especially for Saabs.
Edit:
3. Jags, too.
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS! At least until after Thanksgiving which is what I have in the pool.:-)
Duncan
Here are the stats
2002 Ford Ranger Edge 2wd Xcab(2door ver.)
automatic, cruise control, A/C, ABS
24k miles, black in Portland OR
1-2 minor door dings
Spray in bedliner.
What do you think this bad boy is worth? We are hoping for like 9-10(maybe).
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CAR LOTS!
Terry
Down Retail Rd, a great detail, super ad, in the paper for $7,900 "asking" and sing "All my ex's live in Texas" at $6,5/$7,5 ..
Let me know on this one, I'm interested on what it will do in the land of the "Longhorns" ...
Terry ;-)
Duncan........we have a small, short term payment on the Explorer, will be paid off in the spring. Only thing that's causing me to think about a new truck is because our Chevy is costing us a ton of money, not only in repairs, but in down time, its our business truck. Hubby hasn't been able to get to his jobsite and its gonna start to hurt the ole' wallet if he doesn't get there soon.
2001 Honda Accord EX V6 4 dr sedan
38.5K miles
Silver over gray leather, auto trans.
All the EX stuff including moonroof, pwr seats, 6 disc CD with cass, alloy wheels, etc... no nav system (not sure if it was available in 01 model)
4 New tires
located in Pittsburgh PA
Dealer is asking $18,988... What do you think?
Thank you
--18fan
But look at the bright side: pretty soon, you will run out of parts to replace on the Chevy.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Clean, needs to be buffed out a little:
http://www.msu.edu/~steine13/charvan.htm
(My wife hit a deer with it on the freeway yesterday. She's fine.)
Now what?
Where's Zues when we need him?
-Mathias
(Zues is racing, I think, LOL.)
I'm not sure how long to wait, but I didn't see a response yet, and we're planning on test-driving this Sat.
Here's the info I gave previously on the two vehicles. I realized I left some important things out so I added more info:
My spouse and I have an Audi and a Jeep Wrangler, and want to sell both of them and lease one SUV...
We live near Boulder, Colorado and would be trading it in in the Boulder/Denver area.
1999.5 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro
Manual Transmission
Silver with beige interior
88.5k miles
New t-belt, water pump, tensioner
New Toyo Alll-season tires
New International battery
New rear brakes, needs front brakes done
No accidents, one tiny dent
Owe $12k on it
'97 Jeep Wrangler Sport
White, tan interior
Manual Transmission
No accidents, good/exc. condition
60k miles
Owe $6k on it
Here are my questions -- is it possible/advisable to trade in BOTH vehicles? Or would you recommend trading in one and trying to sell the other private party? I know we'd be underwater on the Audi but not on the Wrangler (checked trade in values on Edmunds already), BUT the Audi has been very difficult to sell private party and our payments are much higher. Lots of factors to consider and I would sincerely appreciate ANY insight. THANKS!!!! and sorry this post is so long.
What the heck, throw on a new fender and grill, patch the radiator, and you're good for another 100K!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Automatic
Rhode Island
Hazelnut metallic/beige
5 door
power sunroof
alloy wheels/premium tires
leather & cloth (25th anniversary edition...)
power driver seat
What are the books good for if we should throw them away? If Saabs have poor resale value it should be reflected in nada, kelly blue book, etc. That information must take into account some historical data. I just don't like the idea of someone making a bundle of $$ at my expense. I want a fair deal for all parties. Thanks for your help!
It's a '93 SL2. 120k miles, 5 Speed, no auto locks or windows. Dark blue with grey interior. No accidents, but it does have a ding on the hood. new tires and breaks, but 120k service hasn't been done on it yet.
After reading some of these posts, this screams a car that a dealer won't want, so is it a much better idea to just pay for the 120k service and have a go at selling it myself? Thanks!
Ben
Looked at the pics, all in all ~ eh, aah, ugh ~ not so bad, seen worse .. the reason why the airbag didn't deploy was it was hit at an angle, the Yota insignia is fine, one of the sensors is about 4/6 inches back of that .. the fender was hit more on the side, than head on and the sensor is about 5/6 inches farther back in the fender ....
If I'm lookin' at the front shot "pass side view" close enough, it looks like we have a little "el tilto" action in the engine .. maybe a little frame flex ..? or, maybe I'm just not seeing it right ... I could be wrong, I was thinkin' $3,5/$4,5, "maybe", "could" be more towards that $5/$6ish range ..? - But I hope I'm wrong, probably am .. thanks for the yellow tape, makes it much easier in the rain(?)
You will know bunches more when they get some Jacks/lift underneath it ....
Terry
He also said, w/ 88k on the clock, it might get to a "total", but he'll know when he jacks it up and goes over it.
The way I see it, before the hit it was an $8k wholesale car, maybe a touch better, that needed $1k in tires/t-belt/90k service.
After the hit, it'll be a $6,500 wholesale car that still needs $1k.
If the bill comes to $7, they'll total it and cut me a check for $9 or so.
If the bill comes to $6, I'll take the $6 and run.
If the bill comes to $5, I don't know what I'll do.
If the bill comes to $3 or $4, I'll have it fixed and it'll be back in the driveway in a month or six weeks. Oh joy.
But hey, compared to what a new wife costs... so I'm seeing the big picture here.
Thanks for the comments.
-Mathias
Just like these beautiful ones here -- Aaaaaaah, it's poison ivy .. !!! - never mind.
We live near Boulder, Colorado and would be trading it in in the Boulder/Denver area.
**1999.5 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro
Manual Transmission
Silver with beige interior
88.5k miles
New t-belt, water pump, tensioner
New Toyo All-season tires
New International battery
New rear brakes, needs front brakes done
No accidents, one tiny dent
Owe $12k on it* ~~~~ Miles are tall tall tall, your not going to get any breathing room with that meat clever, still needs some service, but based on your description it still has some "eyes" ... Trade side, in and around the $7's, "might could" creep towards $8,0 ..
**'97 Jeep Wrangler Sport
White, tan interior
Manual Transmission
No accidents, good/exc. condition
60k miles
Owe $6k on it* ~~~ miles are good for the year, color is good anywhere, if it needs -0-, then trade side you should be seeing in and around the $7's also ...
Down Retail Rd, I bet that Wrangler would sell in about 72hrs with a great ad, super detail and a "asking" price of $9,900 ~ then say "John Elway" when you hear $8,9/$9,5 and cut her loose ... the Audi?, well that's up to you, you might see $9/$10,0 if you can get it to glow in the dark, 120% service, but the miles are Killing you here ...
Good luck ....
Terry.
I'm sorta bummed today, we were heading into town with the Explorer, doing about 55 on the highway when a tractor trailer with doubles passed us going the opposite way. My Explorer has/had a Lund lunar lighted visor on it, well, that tractor trailer went by, there was a deafening POP, we stopped and looked, it had ripped the visor's holding screw right out of the roof and put a nice dent there. So much for that. Now it gets to have another spot painted, visor is off now, but there's a plugged hole where it used to be.
Mathias- You are right on on the cost of repair vs. new wife. Plus with the break in period of a new better half it's just cheaper to fix the car. :-)
Duncan
LOL -m
9-3? 9-5?
Vector? Aero?
miles?
What are the books good for? Well, if you put them under small kindling and light them, they can get your fireplace going. Or maybe take them apart and spread them out for the dog to go on. The small ones are good for coffee table coasters. I could go on and on.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
qb- She answered those questions in a previous post.
Out of curiousity, savvy, who offered you the $15,500 on a trade, and on what, if I might ask? New England is a pretty strong market for Saabs.
I am looking to trade it for a 2004 Acura MDX and it was an Acura dealer in RI that made that offer.
Very funny about the books...............
Big City Paper Classifieds?
Autotrader?
Cars.com?
Which one do you think I would get the best response from?
ok, so boot me from the island instead for not paying attention in class.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Regular maintenance, everything works like it should
St Louis metro area
Sandrift exterior/cloth interior
63,XXX miles
4-speed auto
moonroof
CD/Cassette stereo
90% tires, newer battery
I'm thinking around $6K. What say you?
She had it detailed from a place we use for $125, (looked new) then she thought perhaps keeping it for another year, but she works for the Post Office and put some great flyers up at three different boards (pics and such) for $7,900 and the ad went in on Tuesday.
Well that didn't last long, she sold it last night for $7,000 cash!
As usual, Thanks for all the help, I think we owe you about 30 Steak dinners about now.
Happy Halloween
M.
Turns out my sister's co-worker hadn't talked to his wife about buying the '97, so the deal didn't go through. Bro in law ended up trading the unrepaired truck in. Got $1900 for it as it was, and bought an '03 S10 V6 4x4 off the showroom floor--$25K sticker for $18K after dealing and subtracting the $4000 rebate. He used the insurance money and trade as the downpayment.
I guess he did well on the trade given the damage and the lack of amenities on the truck.
Your info was a big help, though--he and I say thanks.
2002 Toyota Highlander
2WD 4cyl Auto(of course)
Silver out/Grey Leather(dealer installed w/warranty)
Roof Rack/Keyless/Tint
No dings, dents, or rubs
Clean inside and out
28K Miles
Boston area
Retail Road vs. Good Trade-in?
Thanks!
Trade side, if it's super clean, deep sneakers, no KFC invasions, you should be seeing in and around the ultra high $16's maybe the low $17's depending on the dealer.. if it needs stuff start deducting ..
In the Land of Retail .. $19,900 "asking" and grab $18,5/$19,5 .. the miles, the 4 banger and the 2wd are not going to be your friends here, especially this time of the year in NE .......
Terry.
cloth car, great interior...probably could use a set of tires before too very long.
Look, runs and drives like a 50,000 mile Camry.
Alas...it has 215,000 miles!
Seattle area.
What do you think?
Seattle? No snow, no (road) salt? Plus, the '92 and up don't rust anyway... so maybe even ask $4.. around here in MI, it would bring $2 inside a week.. I know it would, I'd buy it myself!
Toyota built some of their longest-lasting cars in the early '90s.
-Mathias
If it's super nice, ya know, lookin' driven' and feelin' like a 50k .. you guys would probably put $1,200/$1,500 in it, would do that at the Seattle auction if it's as clean as you say it is .. no fear, an easy $2,2/$2,8+ sends it off to that stupid quarterback you guys have ....
Terry.
They have a great steak package at Omaha Steaks .l.o.l....
Terry
Happy Halloween ...
Terry.
Anyway, the miles are super low low for the year, no cows, no slider, color is Yuk .. this time of the year folks aren't looking for rwd's .. trade side I would think a dealer would be lookin' at around the $4's, might get close to $5, maybe, but it better be clean, deep round things, no kisses, no re-paints and no AK47's in the trunk ..
Down Retail Rd, $7,900 "asking" and grab the first $6,5/$7,500 .. keep in mind, books don't buy vehicles, people do .. so park your ego at the door if you are going to sell it yourself ....
I hope this helps ...
Terry.
**If Saabs have poor resale value it should be reflected in nada, kelly blue book, etc.**
Not knocking Saab's, but they have the re-sale value of a asparagus .. Like the Lincoln LS, they do make Super great buy's on the pre-owned market .. there not bad vehicles, they just don't carry the load.
Just like Lance mentioned, depending on the vehicle and especially this time of the year "the books" can be $1,5/$4,000 off on the value (real money) .. kinda remember dealers are looking 2/3 months down the road, Not What Happened 2/3 months ago ...
Sorry
Terry.
Oooh, we got some kisses going on here, miles are waaay tall for the year, good color, auto, abs .. lot's and lot's of Accords going around now and you have to compete with all the 20kers .. trade side, in and around the $7's, "might" could travel up to the low low $8's if it's puuurffect and needs -0- .. the miles are killin' ya here ... ouch.!
great description, thanks.
Terry.