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Infiniti Q45
Since the Q has showed up in several comparison
topics but never had one of its own, I'm creating
this one. I'll be consolidating several of those
topics into this forum. If you own or are looking
to buy this car, here's the place to talk about it!
Thanks,
L8_Apex
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topics but never had one of its own, I'm creating
this one. I'll be consolidating several of those
topics into this forum. If you own or are looking
to buy this car, here's the place to talk about it!
Thanks,
L8_Apex
Sedans Host
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also does any one have the navigation system yet, i saw it in the website and it looks just like the QX4.
Thanks.
HID Lamps
real wood
name brand leather like the europeans
curtain airbags
rear airbags
3 zone climate
reclining rear
analog clock
multi feed CD
ESP or AWD
audi sized door gaps
more than 2 leather colors
rear sunshade
thick carpet and headliner
quiter than the LS 430
high quality plastics
extended wheelbase model
easy to use nav
adaptive seats with massage and fan
luminescent gauges
special high performance mode like the S55
solar sensing ac
sonar parking assist
good crashtest scores
digital car phone
voice activated controls
rear vanity mirrors
good interior lighting
hydraulic assist in the doors and trunk
self lowering rear seat head rests a la mercedes
if all these features were in the new Q at ther right price, infiniti would not be able to build enough of them!!
this list took 10 minutes to create... what other features should it have?
I purchase the car in March. I've heard that Infiniti is now discounting much deeper but I don't have specific realible data. When I purchased mine, IFS had a money factor of 1.7 which equates to a 4.1% interest rate and a residual of 53% (36/36).
Oh, the exterior is london grey.
Good Luck on your quest and let me know how you make out.
With Q45 trying to catch up with Lexus LS, and looks promising, it would be interesting what Honda/Acura will do with their upcoming V8 RL which is suppose to compete with the LS and Q duo.
Is this an Infiniti plan ? I think the best plan from Warranty Gold and others come in around $900 during their promotions. (For the 7/100k plan) I would rather have an Infiniti Plan, but you can get the car fixed at other shops with the other plans.
The real question is whether you want one at all. The Q now has a 6/70 warranty on the drivetrain in addition to the basic 4/60 coverage. While there are some expensive things that may need repair after the warranty expires, the drivetrain coverage protects you from the potentially largest items. Estimate your milage that you'll accrue also. If you don't figure you'll get to 100k within 7 years it probably won't add up to a good deal. I checked with Warranty Gold recently and they told me the initial rate was good until the car is 18 months old. After that the rate increases. They will not issue coverage on any car after 80k miles.
I hope you're enjoying the new Q. I've got a buyer for my old '93, and may very well buy a new one. I like variety, but the '93 Q was the best car I ever owned. It's hard to switch when you've had zero problems in six years.
Another way of looking at it is asking yourself if you think your gonna spend more than $1,200 in repairs between 60K miles to 100K miles. I don't think you will.
I find it funny that the salesperson pitches a car's reliability, then sends you to the "finance" guy who pitches an extended warranty "just in case". What a racket. I'm in the wrong business.
You need to ask yourself if its worth $1,200 for 40,000 miles of peace-of-mind.
Drex
PS: Warranty Gold is a cheaper alternative. You can look them up on-line. www.warrantygold.com
Good luck
In response to warranty coverage option.
I purchased 1991 Q45 used from an Infinity dealer in 1994 with approx. 40,000 miles on it. This was the first time I ever purchased anything pre-owned in my life and I was kind of nervous about it. So to hedge my bet on this car, I decided to get an extended warranty for about $1,000 through the dealer, which was for 7 years/100,000 miles. Let me tell you, this decision I made saved me lots of money and gave me a peace of mind for a long time. There are lots of little and big things that can break down after initial factory coverage of 60,000 miles, like problem with my sunroof where dealer had to replace part of rails or something, had scratched driver and passenger side windows due to window rails (at different times) which dealer had to replace, center console button for right rear window which dealer replaced, both front struts which dealer replaced several times etc.... (These are some of things I can remember as I am writing this). When dealer charges $65 - $75 an hour for labor and throw in the parts to fix these little things, they add up quite a bit. Don't get me wrong, I love my Q and I love everything about Infinity (except for their decision to put "better" 4.1 engines in Q). I just want to say that sometimes the extra protection is well worth the investment.
I think I rambled on too long. Until next time.
Q Fan from Fairfax, VA
I think for someone buying a new Q the decision is a little harder, though, because of the factory extended powertrain warranty (6/70k) that comes with the car. As I said in an earlier post, the powertrain items are the ones that can cost in the thousands to repair. On the other hand, the service contract plans like Warranty Gold seem to have a lower price than other luxury makes, reflecting their reduced obligation period. In the end it just comes down to risk tolerance.
I'm in the market for an "off lease" Q45 and recognize the value as compared to Lexus LS400. I've now test driven both cars in the same '97 year model and there is a significant difference in performance. When I read the numerous reviews on both cars I couldn't help but notice that the Q made its peak torque at 4,000 RPM's. The Lexus, by contrast, made 80% of its max torque at a relatively low 1,800 RPM's. This difference in torque numbers was QUITE noticable to me. The Q just didn't have the low RPM acceleration that the Lexus had and to get into the Q performance curve I really had to mash the accelerator. Admittedly, once the pedal was to the metal the Q did rise to the task, but the LS400 required a LOT LESS coaxing to achieve the same performance.
I've decided on the Q over the Lexus because of VALUE!! I was offered a new 2000 (not AE) for 42,000, but I believe I'd be a fool to pass up the used Q values that are out there presently. I missed a '97 in Expresso with only 26,000 miles for $25,000 asking. I can live without the side impact bags and the clock for that kind of money.
I'd be curious to know of the best deals you all have found on '98 and '99 Q models. If I could buy a '99 for $30k-$32k I'd probably jump on it.
Best Regards,
John Dent
The best deals will be on the '97 models because of the number of them available off-lease. 98 and 99 models are more scarce. A 99 car for $32k is realistic when you find one, but $30k would probably be optimistic unless the car has high milage. Let me know if you find an extra !
By the way, I saw an expresso car with 26k (I think) on EBAY yesterday, not that I would recommend buying a car via an online auction. (unless you inspect it first)
Regards,
Denny
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in the mean time, they could dump the I30 engine into the G20. the car already has great handling. add better styling and they would have an instant 3 series contender. or supercharge the I30 for the T model.
5.9 0-60. That is the ESTIMATED time. Normaly, companies just guess the 0-60, so the Q would probably go faster 0-60 than 5.9 seconds. Unbelievable!
According to the autosite figures some on these threads use, the figure for the first 5 months is 1966 units, almost the same as for the same period last year. That's why I wouldn't describe the Q sales as "shot". Consistently behind it's competitors ? Yes. There are a lot of Luxury makers right now who wish some of their models were selling at the same rate as last year. I see the Q is only about 500 units behind the GS400 for
the year, which is off in sales (as are all Lexus cars - thankfully they have the RX300). But, I don't think anyone's ready to proclaim GS400 sales are dead just yet. It would seem that the 2002 Q45 should boost sales for that model when it arrives, but just how much depends on the final content, and the price, of course.
Like you, I would like to see Infiniti keep the G20 and give it a little more power. I've driven a few of these for loaners when I've had my Q in for service, and they are fun cars.
Car companies do not always build cars with the expectation that they will be volume sellers. While Infiniti is selling less Q45s than it expected when introduced years ago, it also knows that building a technically advanced car such as the Q is imperative if it wants to create the perception that the rest of the model line has that type of desirability. The buyer must perceive that there is a trickle-down effect with the less expensive models (the volume sellers) of engineering, quality, and prestige. A good example of this is Audi's A8. Audi will never sell that car in volume, but it doesn't matter. It shows potential A4 and A6 buyers that Audi can exhibit a car-building prowess that they somehow are benefitting from.
BTW, although I have been out of the retail end of the auto business for some years (see profile), I still do some bird-dogging (locating cars) for a local dealer in the wholesale market. I'll be scouting for myself as well, though, since I sold my old Q yesterday. I usually buy cars one to two years old, and I can tell you that the Q is near the top of the list for the next one (along with maybe a 540). I look at value, or in my case, getting as much car as I can for the money (while being reasonably new). The Q fits the order well. In fact, with current incentives even a new Q is a good value. Cheers..
Several EXTREMELY knowledgeable folks at the site. Enjoy,
Curt
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i wouldnt say it is better than the 7 series, which will be released in the next year also. no one has ever driven both yet. we cant compare until the cars are released...but Cd and 0-60 times are only a small part of the luxury pie, and these have to be experienced before making a judgement.
Infinitis future will have a sport coupe (spun off of the Skyline GT), a roadster, a crossover SUV making the QX4 become a LX470/Navigator competitor, and a redesigned I30. All cars will be rear wheel drive...the way it should be.
BTW, if you're concerned about the expired warranty, Warranty Gold told me about 6 months ago that they have coverage plans you can obtain as long as the car has <80k miles. The '95 model is a very reliable car, though. I checked out WG for my '93 but it had 83k at the time. I wasn't serious about buying the coverage though; just curious about the price. For market value comparisons, I sold my '93 last Thursday for $11k. It had 85k miles, but looked like a new car. It didn't have a CD, but had BBS wheels. Good Luck !
Looking for exceptional 94 to 96 Q45T.
Will consider same year Non-T with BBS wheels.
Appreciate in help in locating this car.
Jason
97.5 models are identical to '98's with the then new side air bags so if you are looking at 97's, you can get the '98 spec by looking at the seat side for the airbag.
My wife and I are looking for a replacement car for the aging Volvo I drive now and each time the topic comes up around S class benzes (even E class) or Lexus GS or ????, we invariably look around and say, "Waitaminute... the new Q45T in two tone is "only" 40k compared with costs of some of these others at +10k or more with 6 cylinder engines." Another Q in the house? Hmmmmm.....
Good luck!
Mic
'97.5 Q - 60k
I just sold my '93 Q that had 85k on it. I bought it when it was a year old, and not one item broke on it. That's about as reliable as it gets. However, Swimmer7, Although you might get 200k out of one without "major" repair bills, it would be a stretch to reasonably "expect" to do so. No car that I know of is that reliable. Some go that long without major repairs - but most don't.
The $22k price sounds fine for the '97 Q45t.
Having the service done is a big plus, and although the car has 50k miles, Infiniti's warranty is 4/60, so you have some factory coverage left.
Thanks!!!
If you like these four cars you can't go wrong. I'm also considering a couple of those myself. (the 740i and the Q). As the 740 and the LS400 are obviously in the used market at that price, you should be able to pick up a nice 98 740 or a nice 99 LS400 in that range. Good hunting!
If your still looking for a Q45a, I have a 95 Ivory with 48,000 miles. Traction control, 10 disk cd, and spoke wheels. Perfect condition always garaged. All service records with none of the major problems some people have experienced. There is 1 year and 1 month factory bumper to bumper warranty left. I live in South Jersey. Price is 18,500.
Bruce airsea@bigfoot.com
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