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Mazda MPV: Problems & Solutions

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  • bob57bob57 Member Posts: 302
    My 01 DX with alloy wheels pulled to the left when I first got it (now 10K miles). I intended to get to the dealer (El' Procastinator) but didn't get around to it. About 3K miles ago I noticed (realized) it didn't pull left anymore. I checked the tires for wear and inflation that day and nothing had changed. Out of curiosity (and the 7 vehicles that passed me going 90) I took Red up to 85 to check for pull - and vibration - this thing wants to cruise at 85! And, it handles very nicely at that speed.
    At any rate, my pull problems have self cured somehow but I am keeping an eye on the tires anyway.
  • vtac1vtac1 Member Posts: 18
    Well just got back from a 4062 mile trip that went from
    Mississippi,to Cal,Vegas,and many other points.Here's what I
    have to say.The MPV 2000 LX performed almost flawlessly.The
    only problem was my own fault,by not getting the" popping
    sound" fixed before I went.When we got to Vegas and the temp
    got 111,the popping got so loud you could hear it over the
    radio.BUT other than that wow was I impressed.mileage worst
    case,22mpg,but most of that was in the mountains.Best case
    25.9mpg,about three tanks,most of time around
    24mpg.Confort,great ,never got sore or stiff,driver side confort
    was really great,sometimes drove for 12 hours.Power,no
    problem even in the mountains,just truned off O/D.For those of
    you that don't know,comming out of southern Cal.on Interstate
    15 there is an incline that lasts 16 miles,many people were
    down on the side of the road,but my MPV never got higher than
    half on temperature gauge.Temperatures were over 100.I went
    from desert to 9000 feet on Tioga pass so we had a big run of
    conditions.Really happy with whole trip.Oh getting tie rods
    changed this week.Follow up--Had tie-rods replaced,nomore popping.
  • rlessingrlessing Member Posts: 1
    I have a noise our MPV makes when I touch the break or accelerate which sounds like creaking or popping. It sounds like the whole vehicle is effected. Happens once the car is warmed up.Is this serious? Has anyone else experienced it? Thanks!
  • alexv1nalexv1n Member Posts: 248
    Could it be that the popping noice you hear happens when you begin to move in opposite direction and apply brakes for the first time? (E.g. you are going forward, stop, go in reverse and as soon as you press brakes you hear the popping sound).

    This appears to be a known issue of front brake pads... There is a TSB on that. Someone already posted about this before.

    There is another issue involving inner tie rods poping. Also should be fixed by the dealer.

    I hope this helps.


    ---
    Alex
    MPV Community Web site
    MPV Mailing List

  • gunga64gunga64 Member Posts: 271
    For what its worth Consumer reports gives the MPV a recommended result. Only 3 minis were rated a "recommended buy" you can figure out the other 2.

    It also gives the Mazda the best reliablity of all mini vans, in one of their charts in the newest consumer reports. the HOnda comes in like 6th for reliablity. Take into account that chart is made up of one years data on the Mazda though.

    I too have some problems with the way they rated the MPV on the edmunds site.

    A few things in particular, that I seem to recall on the edmund site or a combined thought from other sites were :

    1. ABS is'nt available? Maybe they were looking at the wrong van.

    2. Don't like it because it doesnt have remote sliding doors, what the heck good is that.

    3. Then comparing the price to the Honda theres a 350.00 difference why buy the Mazda they state. It almost appears to me that they compare the low end Mazda to the HIgh end Honda, but when it comes to price they use the high end Mazda, I may be wrong here. But your talking about 7k in price difference.

    4. Lousey gas mileage, excuse me but I'm pretty sure its either the same or 1/2 mpg less then the Honda. It also appears to me they were riding the Mazda rough to check the horsepower out. Its stated tons of times on the boards that you should'nt push the Mazda that way. I'm sure that effected the fuel economy. Needless to say I think this was a useless result.

    5. The engine might me smaller then the Honda and Toyota, but the Mazda wieghts about 800 lbs lighter. Regardless of engine size I expect better engines from Honda and Toyota, basically because they have been the king of making efficent engines for years. I'm pretty sure everyone else is still playing catchup.

    The only real problem I see with the Mazda is that it uses a Ford engine this of course is a negative. Theres no two ways about that.

    Now that I said my peace, all of the above still does'nt make me go out and buy a Mazda yet, I'm in no rush to buy anything right now. But the Mazda is probally 1 of 3 that I'm thinking about.

    Sometimes all these sites are concerned with is engine size, they also tend to like everything that comes out of Honda or Toyota, which is ok since i own a Toyota and Acura now. But don't take a lot of what they say seriously. I assume they had to find something wrong with the others just to make up a list.
  • vtac1vtac1 Member Posts: 18
    I can't believe their are stilldealers that don't tell about the popping sound.They have known about for over a year and a tech bulletin came out in feb 2001.For those of you that are interested the service bulletin number is 02-001/01,and the mpv affected are those with VIN's lower than JM3 LW28**YO137197.It says the inner tie-rods are at fault.I had mine replaced and have no further trouble.Here is what the bulletin says-------While traveling during high temperatures,a knocking noise is heard from the front of the vehicle with a slight floor vibration.The conditions USUALLY occurs at less than 15 MPH.It is caused by internal binding of ball joint on inner tie rod ends of steering rack during hot power steering fluid temperatures.-----Let me tell you,I was in Vegas and it was 111 degrees,and the sound was at all speeds.Replacing the tie-rods and some other bushings cured it all.Don't wait for cooler weather,it will go away
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    We recently got back from a 3,000 mile roundtrip to Texas. I must say that the MPV was a real joy to drive. We averaged 22.5+ mpg. We took the middle seats out and loaded the van with a treadmill and a long coffee table we took to our son. Once we delivered the furniture we just popped up the rear seat and could seat 5 adults again. We drove thru some heavy rain from tropical storm Allison and had no problems with handling or visibility. This is a really good vehicle for highway travel. The ac worked well in 90 degree weather with the front set to 2 and the rear to 1. I would definetely get rear air in any MPV I bought, regardless of where I lived.

    Having said all that, I did hear the dreaded popping sound from the front end once while backing out of a parking lot in hot weather. We are leaving for Montana in a week so I am concerned about having problems on the road with the inner tie rods. I called the dealer and described the problem and even gave him the tech bulleting above. They said they would actually have to hear the popping sound themselves before they would be able to diagnose the problem and fix it. Since there is no recall out on this problem, they felt no obligation to go ahead and repair it on my word. They also said that they had never had a van in to fix this problem. I then caledl the Mazda customer service hotline.I basically got the same story from them. I told them that since it was a sporadic problem that occurs when the van is hot and at low speeds, most likely a dealer would not be able to hear it unless they took it on the road for an extensive drive. Finally I asked him if it was safe to drive the van on a long trip without having this fixed. He said that since there was no recall he would assume it was. He did tell me that he would check with the safety engineer and give me a call back. I'm still waiting for the call.

    To those of you that got this fixed, was the dealer able to duplicate the problem or did they just fix it based on the Tech bulletin. Both the dealer service guy and the customer service rep acted like they had never heard of this problem.
  • gunga64gunga64 Member Posts: 271
    Sounds like to me that you ought to take it to a different dealer until one fixes it. Keep taking to them and if they dont fix it say you want the lemon law. Just keep good records. They really dont want you to bring the lemon law into play. That will get them off their butts. What year is your MPV. I was just wondering if they fixed the problem in the new 2001's.

    The tech Bulletin is enough to confirm your story, if you ask me.
  • vtac1vtac1 Member Posts: 18
    When i brought mine to the dealer,the first thing he did was to check the VIN,mine was one listed in the TSB,and he gave me no problem in fixing it.I also was concerned about safety but could not get an answer before i took my 4000 trip.Until i got to Vegas where ir was 111 degrees,it was only an annoyance,but then it was very loud and at any speed.After we left Vegas,it got cooler and the noise got much less,but as soon as i got back to Mississippi,i went to the dealer,and the service manager ordered the kit,and replaced them about 3 days later.He knew about the TSB before i left and told me if i had the problem on the trip he would honer the TSB when i got back.It has solved the problem 100%.If your MPV falls in the VIN numbers,i would absolutely persue it.I was concerned in Vegas the tie rods might break,they got so noisey.GOOD LUCK
  • cutter44cutter44 Member Posts: 42
    So is it safe to assume that if my VIN is higher than the one you listed , I probably won't have the problem? I haven't heard any popping yet in my 2001. The TSB isn't listed yet in Alldata.
  • carman24carman24 Member Posts: 1
    I've lurked here for quite a while and now its time to give everyone an evaluation of my 2000 MPV LX. Options purchased on the van were Rear A/C heat (with rear controls), 4 season package, security system(mainly for the key less remote). We have had the van a little over a year and have put 14,000 miles on it.

    My wife and I would highly recommend this van to any family. We have two toddlers and find the Mazda's features a perfect match for our needs. It was all at a pretty darn good price too!

    We had 3 things wrong with the van after we picked it up. These problems should have been easy to fix but the dealer seemed hopelessly incompetent. Eventually they got it right but it did take them many more days then it should have. None of that was Mazda's fault however.
    First was a shredded rear seat belt. They ordered the wrong belt twice.
    Second, the exterior passenger side door lock fell into the door. They fixed this OK and told us the lock washer used to hold it in place was faulty.
    Third and most annoying, the compartment that holds your sunglasses kept opening while we were driving. They could not fix this and after while I demanded they order a whole new unit. They did case closed.
    We have not had a single thing else go wrong in the year we have had it. This van has many positives.
    The top of the list has to be how easy it drives. Just like a car, dart around forgetting were in a van. Many other things come to mind too, the great ride, comfort of the seats (I'm 6'4" and don't ever complain about the seats), third row magic seat saves a lot of time and hassle, being able to put the sliding door windows down has kept my kids happy, its good looking, the captain chairs are easy to move around for those days of sibling rivalry, its a nice van!!

    The acceleration is good. If you are considering buying an MPV and are discouraged by the overly biased moronic writings of auto journalists (including the Edmunds guys) who seem to base the eval of MPV solely on horsepower: Remember the MPV weighs 1000 pounds less then most of its competitors. Do the math guys. But don't take my word for it. GO TEST DRIVE ONE. You won't be disappointed.

    One of the the only negative things I can say about the van is the fit and finish. We have a large amount of nicks and dings particularly on the top of the back bumper. It wasn't long before I had a can of touch up paint to fill in these chips. It seems like a process I will repeat for the life of the van.

    I would recommend this van to other families. Are other vans competitive? Yes. Can you get a another van with the comfort, reliability, and COST of this one. I don't think so!
    One thing the evil auto journalists fail to mention is the actual cost one can purchase the van. Try an get a Honda for MSRP, it won't happen. With a little savvy one can purchase a MPV at or even below invoice. You just can't beat that value.

    Carman
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    Thanks for your comments. My Van is a 2000 model and the vin # is lower than the TSB so it applies to my van. I have only heard that sound once and for a very short while, so I can see where the dealers might be a litttle hesitant to fix it right away. However, since there is a TSB on it you would think that they would fix it before it became a serious problems for the owner. I have not given up on this and will persist until I get it resolved. I just bothers me that so many dealers and car companies treat customers as the enemy, fighting you every inch of the way to get problems resolved. I may not be able to get it fixed before my trip to Montana since the closest dealer is 11/2 hours away ( two weeks after I bought the van from a dealer in town, they discontinued carrying the Mazda line) and I have a lot to do before the trip. If the problem reoccurs during the trip I will make it my life's mission to get Mazda to fix it. I'll keep all of you posted. Thanks for providing your experiences with this problem.
  • superbondosuperbondo Member Posts: 29
    My problem is same as yours and the dealer's response is the no different. It pops occasionally when I stepped on brakes. I think it's because my van still has low miles (7000, How many is yours?) And I think when it gets more miles, it will get to very loud pop like some describe here. When I brought it in for the pulling problem hoping I can combine both repairs on one trip, I showed the bulletin to dealer, I thought he would fix it, but no he said it has to be "verified". Verify he did, but only for less than 1 mile. And of course he could not hear the noise. And now the noise is getting worse and more frequent, and I'll have to waste my time on another trip to go back to convince them again!!

    I agreed with another writer that some of the dealers are "hopelessly incompetent". My pulling problem is not fixed after four tries. (After three times still pulls left, now it pulls right!)If they can not execute on such a simple fix, how can you trust them on bigger repairs??

    I saw a 2001 LX the other day on the street, it looks better than mine (because it rides higher). It has higher ground clearance, check the space between the top of tire and the body.

    For those who would like to buy this van, I think Mazda has probably corrected the problems on the 2001 van. And if money is no object, go get the 2001 van. And you will probably be spared of the many fustration and time wasted I have endured on mine. Good luck.
  • michael12054michael12054 Member Posts: 2
    I read in someone's message that the Mazda MPV will be getting a larger 200 HP engine for 2002. Can anyone confirm this? Is it still a Ford engine? When do the 2002's come out? I wonder how much more they might cost. Thanks for any help.
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    Rudy - My van has about 21,000 miles on it. I have only heard the noise once while we were traveling in Texas, which tracks with the comment that it's worse when the temperature is hot. I was trying to get ahead of the curve since we are going on another long trip, but as you know from experience our dealer has to actually hear the noise before they will fix it. By the time I get back from our trip the noise should be worse if my van does indeed have the tie rod problem and then I'll go to battle with the dealer and/or Mazda. I understand that it is not a safety issue, which was one of my concerns to begin with. I'll keep you posted on what happens after I get back.
  • vtac1vtac1 Member Posts: 18
    Here is the text of the TSB on front end noise------------------------------------
    Bulletin No: 02-001/01
    2000 MPV - Knocking Noise At Front Of Vehicle

    APPLICABLE MODELS
    2000 MPV with VIN lower than JM3 LW28** Y0 137197.

    DESCRIPTION
    While traveling long distances during high ambient temperatures
    a knocking noise is heard from the front of the
    vehicle with a slight floor vibration. This condition usually occurs
    at less than 15 MPH. This concern may be caused
    by internal binding of the ball joint on the inner tie-rod ends of
    the steering rack during hot power steering fluid temperature
    conditions.
    --------------------Mileage does not seem to change things.I had 15000 on mine when i took my 4000 mile trip.But as i said before,the hotter it gets the louder the noise gets.And when it was 100 degrees the noise was at any speed,if you applied the brakes or accelerated or decellerated or turned.The ties rods must have been the problem,because mine is completly gone,and it's in the 90's here in MS.Good Luck folks.
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    Now I'm wondering if I should just have this fix performed even though our temps rarely exceed 80F. Anyone noticing this at ambients around 70-80F? I'm going to pay extra close attention next time I'm driving MochaVan.

    --javadoc
  • msgjvhmsgjvh Member Posts: 196
    What I am confused about is, how can the dealers require the problem to be verified under the conditions described in the bulletin. I do not think they are willing to drive to Las Vegas in the summer just the hear if my front end knocks or not! I heard this under those conditions last year but once I got back up to the northern side it went away.

    I guess I'll hand them the keys and tell them to have a nice trip!
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    John - That's the reason I'm brigning up the subject. IMO if the dealer actually read the service bulletin and had a customer complain that it happened to them - that would be all that is needed to fix the problem. In most retail operations the "customer" would be right, but not all in the automobile industry have learned that , yet.

    By the way, I had my mechanic visually check the tie rods during an oil change and they were nice and tight so he could not see any problem. It is not an obvious problem unless it starts making the noise. If I hadn't gone to Texas I probably would have never heard it since up here in Western NC it never gets real hot.
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    Thanks for posting the service bulletin. I made a copy of it and will take it to the dealer when I go.
  • lateralglateralg Member Posts: 929
    The Duratec V-6 has been a stellar performer and nearly bullet proof.

    The 3.0L version, rumored to be in the 2002 MPV, is used very successfully in the Lincoln LS. If you question this, check into the Lincoln LS forum here on Edmunds.

    What may have been true several years ago, just isn't true now.
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    Not sure what some people have against the Duratec motor. It sure beats the heck out of many other motors for specific output numbers, and, like you said, is very reliable. I think maybe it's a stigma carried over from the Ford 3.8 motor (a non-Duratec) that had some problems in Windstars and such. Additionally, the 3.0 Duratec makes 95% of the power the 3.5L Honda (Odyssey) motor makes using only 86% of the amount of displacement.

    I guess those stigmas hang on a long time, like the "Unintended Acceleration" issue on 1980s turbo-Audi cars. That stigma hurt the company for years for no real reason except perception.

    --java
  • lateralglateralg Member Posts: 929
    Java,

    I think you hit it. The 3.8 pushrod engine was designed by a whole different generation of engineers and management than the DOHC, 21-st century Duratec. Many owners had a less than desirable experience with the old 3.8.
  • canielcaniel Member Posts: 28
    Could someone explain what it is that is unique in the design of the Duratec? Also, based upon what we know about the 2.5 Duratec, can I expect for it to last 150,000 miles + if I change the oil religiously and keep it well maintained? I put 265,000 on a Mazda MX-6 with Turbo and it was still running great, original turbo (zoom zoom!) and oil was showroom clear when I traded it in. Any thoughts on the Duratec would be greatly appreciated.
  • tboner1965tboner1965 Member Posts: 647
    Well,

    Aluminum Block and Heads, for the most part. The block is built using a design that Ford sought help from Cosworth (well known for small, high output engines.)

    The Duratec block has a cast-in iron sleve in each cylinder.

    There are Contour owners who have over 100K on the clock using the same engine, so 150k+ is possible.

    Just use quality oil filters such as the original Motorcraft F820S or the K&N2010 (higher flow rate) and you should be fine.

    The one thing you have to watch is the water pump. The factory pumps have a plastic impeller and they tend to crack and become ineffective. It's pretty easy to change, so I plan to do them at 50K as part of the cooling system maintenance.

    If you go to an "Iffy Lube" kinda place, make sure they know the oil refill capacity. I personally like to do my oil changes myself, so I know it gets done right.

    Cheers,

    TB
  • gunga64gunga64 Member Posts: 271
    Hi,

    Is the current engine used in another car or truck that ford or mazda sells. I would like to see past history if I can. The only car that I could find that uses the same size engine is the new mazda 626, but I have no idea if thats the same engine.

    Thanks
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Member Posts: 765
    Look at the Ford Contour/Mercury Mystique twins, or in the fwd Mercury Cougar ('99 and later). The 2.5 in the Mazda 626 is a different engine altogether.
  • bill124bill124 Member Posts: 246
    Wasn't there a posting a few months back that also suggested something beside the tie-rods might be at fault? I seem to recall something about the brakes but might be mistaken. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Thanks to vtac1 for posting text of TSB. Mine goes in on Monday for noise. Service manager claimed he hadn't heard of TSB on this. Will certainly bring copy of the posting.
  • alexv1nalexv1n Member Posts: 248
    That was a TSB related to front disc "spacer" plate. See post #1142 in this forum about more details. I have the same problem on mine and I'm going to have it checked during my next visit for service.

    BTW, does anyone have a TSB number on that problem?
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    Also, I believe the Ford Probe (the last body they made) had the 2.5 Duratec as an option...could be mistaken. Also the Lincoln LS uses the 3.0 in it's engine bay as one motor offered.

    TBoner, what are the similarities of the 2.5 and the 3.0? Are they the same block, just different bore/stroke etc? Same/diff heads? Some makers use better heads on their smaller motors (i.e. the 2.5) to make better power; is this the case with the Duratec also, such as the 3.0 might have a milder head?

    --java
  • tboner1965tboner1965 Member Posts: 647
    Probe never used duratec to the best of my knowledge. The Probe used the Mazda 2.5L, and is much more expensive to repair, from what I hear from some office mates.


    The 3.0L has the same external block dimensions and the same stroke, but it has a larger bore. It is not just a "bored-out" or "stroked" 2.5L, it is a seperate casting.


    Prior to 2000, the 3L cylinder heads did not incorporate a camshaft driven water pump, but in 2001, the same engine packaging is used for both the 2.5L and 3.0L Duratecs. So expect the 2001+ 3L to have the same water pump issues.


    The 2.5L heads have a smaller combustion chamber. That is why the 3.0L block and 2.5L heads, (especially the SVT heads) make such a desirable combination. You get an even higher compression ratio with that combination. So we are talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 225 to 250 HP depending on what other things you might do to the heads (such as some more porting and polish work) Of course the SVT benefits from some more aggressive camshafts and a lightened flywheel, not to mention the extrude hone work done on the intake manifolds.


    The V6 in the Lincoln LS is a (from the best of my knowledge) a derivative of the Duratec, the DAMB, but packaged for RWD.


    Well, this weekend is three days full of overtime. (Gotta pay for the SVT toys somehow, like some Koni struts and Eibach springs)


    See the new O.Z. wheels and Firestone Tires at http://tlcc2000.dyndns.org/ContourPics/2001-06-23-01-SVT.jpg


    TB

  • bill124bill124 Member Posts: 246
    Thanks. That's what I was looking for. I agree it would be nice to have the tab on the pacer. I guess you also don't know where to go find these and get them for yourself?
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    I proudly stand corrected on the Probe (who names their car after a feared medical instrument anyway?) motor.

    thx for the info on the diffs/sims of the two Duratecs.

    --java
  • pjd58pjd58 Member Posts: 366
    Kinda of a dull problem forum.:) Our MPV has 3500 flawless miles, and seems to ride better with age.

    Hey, I justed filled up at .99, for 87 octane, no joke. Don't get use to it guys!
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    ...Where? Those are prices from my high school days.

    --j

    p.s. can't be a bad thing that the prob thread is dull. :)
  • dougseydougsey Member Posts: 20
    I just read all the back posts about this problem and I can't determine if this is a filter problem or is the pressure regulator valve in the oil pump sticking. And why does this happen anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks after an oil change? One or two of the posters who reported this problem stated that they had the oil change done at the dealer where I would assume they got an OEM filter.

    I wonder if the wrong oil is being used like maybe a 10w40 that is to thick, thereby causing a stuck pressure reg. valve.

    I'm coming up on my first oil change in a couple weeks (I do my own) and I'm really paranoid about this happening to me.

    Does anyone have any more info as to what could be the cause of this problem?
  • pjd58pjd58 Member Posts: 366
    paid .99 in Ohio. Although, it's back up to 1.19 today. You know holiday pricing jacks it back up.
  • msgjvhmsgjvh Member Posts: 196
    Doug make sure you use a quality filter and tighten it with a wrench. I recommend the K&N brand. Also look into runnning the synthetic oil. I have done all my own and have been successful so far and I have 30k miles. Just be sure you keep all your reciepts.
  • gunga64gunga64 Member Posts: 271
  • dougseydougsey Member Posts: 20
    I have considered having the dealer do the oil changes during the warranty period but I dread the thought of having to make appointments and wait around while the work is done.

    I actually enjoy doing it myself at home on a Saturday. But I would probably not get much enjoyment from having to fight with the dealer if my oil dumps and the engine seizes.

    msgjvh- thanks for the suggestions. It seems like everyone who has used the K&N filter is impressed by it so I'll probably go that route as well.

    Although I'm still unsure if this is a filter problem or something with the oil pump pressure regulator valve.
  • mwiklemwikle Member Posts: 62
    Use a Motorcraft FL-820S filter (OEM part --- it appears to be by Puraolator with a PureONE-type internal element (that is good). "snug it on with a good grip or a filter wrench w/ med to light leverage --- carefully not too tight tho)

    The oil vis will NOT cause a filter blowout, fluid dynamics (noncompressible liquid) mean eve water can cause a blowout.

    Use a major brand oil, syn is good in some climates, but of limited measurable/meaningful benefit to many users in othe conditions. Heck I use it, but dont "need" it! Oil is cheap, vans are not...(I do work for an oil company 'tho)

    Use a box wrench or snug rachet on drain plug (it rounds-off easily --- been there done that!).

    Keep the receipts & log of your work.

    Check for leaks after you are done, and engine is running.

    Relax...

    Merritt
    MPV Owner, S.T.L.E. Certified Lubrication Specialist [CLS](tm), and Engineer
  • gunga64gunga64 Member Posts: 271
    I for one avoided the dealerships for my oil changes like the plague. I'm a little worried now that I have to pay over 20k for a car, and depend on non dealerships to do the oil change. Then have the dealer avoid paying the for warrenty repairs.I had my timing belt put in by toyota because they ran a special for 99 bucks. 6 months later I noticed my car losing oil dramatically. I checked the valve cover and it was loose.

    Bye the way Sams wholesale and Costco I think sell extended warrenties pretty cheap I heard, if anyone is interested.
  • maltbmaltb Member Posts: 3,572
    "The oil vis will NOT cause a filter blowout, fluid dynamics (noncompressible liquid) mean eve water can cause a blowout."

    While I agree with your statement to a certain extent, it leaves out the fact that increased viscosity oil requires more force to move at similar flow rates than a reduced viscosity oil. Also, when you pass oil through the filter membrane, thicker oils require more force to flow at the same rate. That being the case, if the pressure relief valve was faulty, increasing the viscosity would only make things worse.

    :)
  • pjd58pjd58 Member Posts: 366
    your MPV and stop worrying about engine failure.

    Change your oil and filter( Mazda aka. motorcraft or K&N ) every 5000 miles, under normal conditions. If you change your filter yourself, make sure you tighten with a wrench, no hand tightening. I don't recommend going to Quickie oil change shops, terrible quality filters. Check your fluids regularly, don't red line your MPV and use 5w oil. Be a smart owner, not a worry wart.

    Let's not be paranoid, drive your van and enjoy. How can you enjoy life worrying about something that probably will never happen.

    This also goes for purchasing a new car. Another MPV forum some prospective MPV owner's are going crazy trying to save every last cent. I've given people some advice, when they asked. But to beat a deadhorse and worry about a few bucks and if the MPV is better than such and such, is a waste of time and energy.

    Do your research....price, finance, test drive, what's best for your family and relax.

    GOOD RESEARCH relieves stress!
  • drrocketdrrocket Member Posts: 67
    I vaguely remember this being mentioned in the past, but I never experienced it myself until just recently: While parked on a steep incline, I had trouble moving the gear selector out of Park (hand brake was off, brake pedal was firmly depressed; perhaps I should have left the hand brake on and the brake pedal firmly depressed). Is this anything to be concerned about, or was it just due to the steep incline placing stress on the automatic transmission? [My other vehicle is a standard transmission and I still occasionally have trouble adjusting to this "new fangled" automatic transmission experience. lol ]

    On the subject of automatic transmissions, I have also several times experienced the free-revving of the engine, presumably due to reluctant shifting or transmission slippage. Of course it does not happen consistently, so the dealership (which has never heard of this happening--yeah, right!) cannot duplicate it. I am planning to change over to synthetic ATF at my next dealership-performed oil change (also synthetic), but am concerned about the possibility of wasting the expensive ATF if something is truly wrong with my automatic transmission warranting repair or replacement.

    My MPV is a '00 MPV ES, with 21,800 loving miles (though I'd probably love it even more with the bigger engine).

    Thanks in advance for any insight or advice.
  • cutter44cutter44 Member Posts: 42
    Sorry if this sounds like I'm stating the obvious, but there's one thing I remember from my younger driving years.
    With an automatic, when you stop the vehicle, particularly on an incline, with your foot still on the brake, put the emergency (hand) brake on, THEN put it into park. That way the brake is holding the vehicle in place and not the transmission. It really does make a difference when you move again.
  • drrocketdrrocket Member Posts: 67
    cutter44-- Makes sense; that's what I do with my manual transmission car without even thinking about it. I'll just have to make sure I consciously do that if it happens again when I'm driving the MPV.

    Thanks.
  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    I have had a problem with my 2001 MPV (1500 miles). On several occasions when the vehicle is shifting from first to second (like off a traffic light) the vehicle loses some engine power temporarily. This seems to have some relativity to how hard the gas pedal is pressed, although it is not "only if you floor it". It has given the uncomfortable feeling that I'm going to get read-ended a couple of times when I pulled out in traffic and it did this. It has also happened twice now on the highway exit/entry ramps; where it is more likely in third gear.

    I took the vehicle in for an oil change at the dealer (@1200 miles) and asked them to check the "transmission" for this problem. They of course claimed they could not reproduce it. The more I think about it, I think it might actually be a fuel problem, not a transmission problem.

    Anyone else experiencing similar issues? Anyone who knows more about cars (probably everyone reading) care to take a stab at the fuel supply theory?

    Thanks in advance,
    John
  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    I noticed something similar last week when I was driving our van with the A/C going. I noticed that there was a slight hesitation during gear changes, and so I switched off the a/c and the hesitation went away. Maybe this is similar to what you felt? The a/c takes some of the power away from the engine, so this power loss may be causing a hesitation at gear change time. I say this because the computers are controlling both the engine and tranny, and (I'm supposing here...) the computers tell the engine to lift throttle (for an instant) for the shift, and since there's less power, the hesitation on the shift may be more prounced.

    Also, it is pretty well agreed upon that the tranny in the MPV is not the smoothest in the business, until you learn the shift patterns/techniques. I unconciously now lift my foot a hair during some shifts to smooth out the shift, and the new synthetic fluid helps too (wait till at least 15k miles tho). I didn't think I was actually doing this until Friday when I caught myself in the act.

    Hope this helped,

    --Javadoc
  • daddioof4daddioof4 Member Posts: 50
    2 Part post:
    1) I love my MPV, but found 1 area that really disappointed me. Having 4 kids, I was concern about the size before we purchased it. After 7 months and 16,677 miles (trip to Disney from Pittsburgh), it seems the right size for day-to-day driving. But last week, I stopped at Penney’s to pickup a set of curtain rod for my parents. I laid the boxes flat in the trunk of my Mazda Protégé. A day later I took the kids to my parents in The MPV and the boxes didn’t fit in the MPV flat. I couldn’t believe my eyes. I had to look at the trunk again to see why it fit in a small car but not a Minivan. My wife complains when she tries to put a bike in the back. Hopefully, Mazda reads these post and the future MPV cargo hold will be designed like the Protégé’
    2) Who posted the photo of the dirty air filter? I am going to replace mine in a few days or so. Was it easy to do and how long did it take? (Whatever happened to the old wing nut that you would spin off, lift off cover, replace filter, etc, taking about 2 minutes to do!). On the Voyager, I darn near sliced my finger taking the cover off the first time I changed the filter.
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