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Toyota Avalon 2004 and earlier



  • mikidmikid Posts: 15

    want to know if anyone knows anything about the new 2002 avalons, and will the difference be major or minimal? and as far as pricing goes will it be near the same?

  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    None but price. That went down.
  • ltd2ltd2 Posts: 14
    thanks a lot for your info, which is very
  • j_walkerj_walker Posts: 99
    As previously stated by cliffy1, the price was lowered for the options but the base price is the same. Also, a (rear) spoiler is an option.
  • jhpwjhpw Posts: 1
    Hi, just wonder if there is a good place (web) to get the parts
    for avalon? I need to replace the cover of the rear left light.
    The price I got from the local dealer is US$153!
    Cheers, Proty
  • toledo19toledo19 Posts: 119
    If you're experiencing paint chipping, you've most likely encountered gravel or other objects on the highway. NO auto manufacturer will cover this under warranty. I have not encountered any "bottoming out" as you describe. And ,please use your spell check! It's "scraping", not "scrapping".
  • mikidmikid Posts: 15

    just thought it was kinda silly to mention that. i saw your post on 979 and you forgot a space between your words,(off,on), lets just get back to posting about the avalon, some things aren't that important, don't you think?

    have an SUV want to buy the avalon, excuse me, Avalon, the sludge problem that i have seen posted from time to time, what is the real problem with that?
  • jimcarrjimcarr Posts: 37
    I am on my second Avalon having had a 98 before buying a 2K and never has there been any sign of a problem with anything, much less the "so called sludge" problem.

    Apparently, this ruckus was started by some disgruntled woman who didn't like Avalons and it picked up steam from some other people. Nobody offered any concrete proof that such a problem existed. My opinion is that it is just a sour grapes issue with no merit.

    How's my spelling?
  • marshal1marshal1 Posts: 68
    I posted this message on the sludge board last week.

    Don't believe everything you read! by marshal1 Aug 02, 2001 (09:00 am)
    I just want to remind everyone that we're on the internet. It's basically the wild, wild west of the printed word. Anything and everything gets posted. Including fact, fiction, opinion, propaganda, delusions, distortions, etc. You must research and verify what you read before you accept it as fact. This message board is one of the worst I have seen for inaccurate information being accepted as gospel. P.T. Barnum once said that there is a sucker born every minute. On the internet, there is a sucker logging in every second.

    As for sludge in Toyota engines, there is absolutely no proof that it occurs in Toyota engines with any more frequency than it occurs in any other manufacturer. If you change your oil regularly, every 3-5K, you won't have a sludge problem. However, there are always a small share of lemons out there whose engines may be defective. Based on Toyotas history, I would venture to say that their ratio of lemons is much smaller than most other manufacturers.
  • marshal1marshal1 Posts: 68
    I have yet to see any postings in any forum claiming that the V-6 Avalon has sludge problems.
  • mikidmikid Posts: 15
    what bb do you recommend for better information since you feel this is the worst? i would appreciate this information as i am in the process of deciding on purchasing the Avalon and trade in my SUV.

    thanks for your post and i am serious about a better information bb.

  • marshal1marshal1 Posts: 68
    Unfortunately, I can't recommend any internet sludge boards for you to research. All of them are questionable in the veracity of the statements made. However, if you haven't done so already, I would recommend looking at Consumer Reports since they take extensive customer surveys and do their own objective testing of vehicles. Additionally, I would recommend checking the latest J.D. Power and Associates report on the Avalon. I recall the Avalon won best premium mid size vehicle honors for initial quality based on owners responses. In my opinion, the Avalon is a great car for the money and I haven't had any problems with my 2001 XL. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
  • I have a 2000 Avalon XLS with about 26k miles on it. Over the past 3000 miles, the car has a definite hesitation between the 2500 - 4000 RPM range accompanied by a large "surge" of power, as if the engine had a turbocharger, at about the 4500 RPM range until it shifts to the next gear. During the 2500 - 4000 acceleration, the engine surges about 300 RPM until it hits the 4000 RPM mark. It is extremely noticeable while merging onto the freeway and for those "emergency" maneuvers that are sometimes required. It is very noticeable when the car is loaded. Took it into the local dealer here a couple of months ago and they found no problem. I complained so much that the Service Manager drove it. Of course, he found no problems also. My wife notices it, so I know that I am not crazy. I have tried different grades and brands of fuel with no luck. It seems to be getting worse as the car seems to try to stall for the first 30 seconds to 1 minute of operation when the engine is cold? I had the injectors cleaned and the air filter replaced today. It still does it, and it seems worse now. Any ideas?
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 591
    Just passed 67,000 miles on my '99 Avalon and still NO REPAIRS !! Just the things that are routine...oil, filters, fluids, etc. Might not be the perfect car as many have noted.. it bumps, it creaks a little, but it sure beats most cars.. How much better can you get than ZERO dollars in repairs?? Yes, it is easier highway mileage, but the car rides great and just got 30.7 miles to the gallon on a 330 mile trip at 71 mph average, with luggage. Go TOYOTA!
  • Can anyone help me? I have been pricing 2002 avalons, and with a dealer invoice of $29219 my dealer gave me a price of $30400. Cars direct gave me a price of $30719, Do these seem fair or are they to high? With the option prices lower the 2001 leftovers are certainly no bargain. Any help would be appreciated.
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    Price sounds good for a 2002, but you should be able to get them to lower the prices a lot on leftover 2001s.
    There is probably a rebate or some other dealer incentive.
  • mikidmikid Posts: 15

    well, i have to say i drove a Solara today, and wow, fast fast fast. when i drove the Avalon, i just do not remember it being as fast. possibly because of the styling of the cars, i may not have punched the Avalon like i did the Solara. anyway, can anyone tell me does the Solara and the Avalon have the same engine? I had a dealer give me a price quote on a 2001 Avalon, it was around $29,500 and another dealer quoted $30,300 around there.

  • toledo19toledo19 Posts: 119
    Yes, spelling is important when each word has a completely different meaning!
  • gscheil1gscheil1 Posts: 72
    I finally have my first problem-outside temperature guage reads very low. Reads about 74 when its 91 outside. This effects the climate control and must set desired temp. below what o.s.temp. reads. Dealer ordered new sensor and was installed yesterday. Went to car in lot and o.s.temp. said 83 when it was in the 90's. After 5 mile drive home, finally said was 89 outside. Understand I must drive it a lot further to get it up to proper reading. Problem is that I park in basement and temp. there is about 75. Will have to drive it outside until reaches proper temperature on dash. At least that's when service advisor said. Also, if never reaches proper reading, they will talk to factory rep. Will keep you advised.
  • byuacebyuace Posts: 1
    I'm considering purchasing a 97 Avalon, but am wondering what the gas mileage will be like. It's an XLS model if that makes any difference, and will probably be used more on the highway. Will those with 97 Avalons (and others as well) please email me, and tell me how the Avalon does on miles/km per gallon?
    I noticed that someone got 30.7 mpg recently. Is that average highway mpg? Anyway, please fill me in. Also where could I find sites that rate fuel efficiency?
    Thanks. (
  • marshal1marshal1 Posts: 68
    My 2001 XL has been averaging about 24 MPG on mixed highway and city driving during its first 3000 miles of operation. I consider this to be quite good for a full size V-6 powered vehicle.
  • mikidmikid Posts: 15
    are the 2002 XLS avalons bodystyle any different than the 2001? i heard that there was little change?, have been tryin to find a web site with the new 2002 but havent found one yet. possibly searching wrong?

    thanks miki
  • ong2000ong2000 Posts: 19
    Today I am driving behind a 2001 Avalon, and I saw that the exhaust piping / muffler is very low compare to most car. I think that is the reason for scraping.

  • toledo19toledo19 Posts: 119
    Anyone else notice that a portion of the speedomoter is reflected off the windshield during evening driving? This is annoying as heck for this otherwise wonderful automobile. Any solutions, comments are appreciated.
  • rzepa2rzepa2 Posts: 24
    I am seeing it all the time when driving
    in night\evening. Agree. Annoying as hell
    but don't drive much that late.

    Only thing which seems to work is just dimming it out.
  • marshal1marshal1 Posts: 68
    I haven't actually seen a 2002 Avalon yet. However, It is my understanding that they are identical to the 2001s. When I bought my 2001 I asked the dealer about the 2002 model year and was told their would be no changes in the design. Even the base price is the same, but the options are now cheaper.

    Regarding your questions about the Solara. The V-6 is similar except that the Avalons has a bit more horsepower. The Solara would be faster though because it is lighter and smaller than the Avalon which would translate into a better horsepower to weight ratio for the Solara. The Solara is really nothing more than a renamed Camry two door coupe (which is not a bad thing). It is definitely sportier than the Avalon. If you're looking for a sporty and reliable V-6 coupe instead of a refined full size luxury car then the Solara is certainly worth considering. I would also suggest looking at the Honda Prelude, Accord V-6 two doors and the new Acura RSX.
  • rbingrbing Posts: 8
    I purchased an Avalon XLS recently. I continue to be generally very pleased,... but the gas mileage has been awful in the city. I am ranging somewhere between 250 and 300 on a tank of gas. What is going on, the fuel range reads 252? I have been using 89 octane gas.

    Any ideas would be appreciated. I am thinking that I really need to get car on the highway for long distance? Any thoughts before I return to dealer. Thanks!
  • We have a 95 Maxima that we really like except for the road noise when driving on the highway.
    We're thinking of trading for an Avalon and are curious about the quietness of the ride at highway speeds. We test drove 2002 Avalon yesterday and were impressed.

    What do Avalon owners feel about ride quality/road noise?
  • sky33sky33 Posts: 26
    I visited a dealer the other day and they had a number of 2002 avalons. They are basically unchanged from 2001. The only updates I noticed were they now have more chrome in the interior of the car. Chrome door handles, chrome button on the gear shift and a couple had rear spoilers that didn't look too bad. Sounds like most folks are pretty satisfied with their avalons. Now if toyota could fix the minor annoyances (e.g. speedometer reflection, bottoming out when you go over bumps in the road, etc) As for styling I like the avalon but I hope they do something about both the front and rear-end of the car.

    Has any one seen the 2002 Camry? From what I've seen it looks sharp. I am wondering if new design will take sales away from the avalon especially if the camry is bigger on the inside? Based on what I've seen the camry might be a good alternative to the avalon.
  • toledo19toledo19 Posts: 119
    Based upon the photos I've seen of the new Camry, it is indeed a knockout. Go to the Camry board and you too can check it out. Problem is, I've heard it has a tighter suspension than the current model and initial pricing because of demand will be high. Don't think you'll match the comfort of the Avalon with the new Camry.
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