Toyota Avalon 2004 and earlier

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  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    My dad just found some great shocks from Edelbrock. He put them on his truck, but they make them for just about everything. They are kind of a poor man's active suspension. They are designed to be soft on bumps but instantly firm up in corners. I'm not sure how this happens but dad is VERY impressed. You might want to look into them.
  • stmechstmech Member Posts: 19
    Regarding message 1973: Refer to messages number 1964 and 1965. Sounds like Tokico struts may be the answer. Waiting to hear nomad56 experience with them soon.

    Regarding message 1974 - Edelbrock does not make struts for Avalon.
  • footiefootie Member Posts: 636
    You must have a suspension problem.

    Our family LOVES the ride in the Avalon. It does't wallow or jossle passengers. We did a loop from Boston to Niagara Falls to Ottawa to northern Vermont and back in August on all kinds of pavement in the U.S. and Canada with my wife and two teenagers.

    It drove like a dream..smooth when we wanted it to be on the Mass Pike and NY Thruway, handling great on the tight but scenic roads around the Trapp Family Lodge in Stow, Vermont.

    I drove the car to see my elderly Mother in Delaware a few weeks ago. Boston to New Castle, DE, 330 miles 5 hous 15 minutes, 29.1 mpg.

    I like to drive the Merritt Parkway on the way into the NYC area. No commercial truck, hilly, twisty, about 70 miles. Set the Avalon on 65 and roll.

    We like it, as you can tell. Each to their own, but this is NOT a car with a handling problem.
  • pluto5pluto5 Member Posts: 618
    Well, at least CR doesn't agree--see latest issue on large sedans which cites the Av for lackluster handling. They should have bought an Impala LS IMO!
  • gerry100gerry100 Member Posts: 100
    Sounds like there is some confusion in terms here.

    Ride is comfort, smoothness etc.

    Handling is the ability of the car to respond at speed to turning inputs, braking etc.

    Usually the extra travel and shock absorption in a suspension designed in to cushion the occupants works against handling because it allows the center of mass of the car to move around to much. This upsets the balance of the car which makes for uneven tire loading and limits adhesion.

    All suspension systems are a compromise of these factors. More expensive designs, (BMW, Benz etc) allow for a better comnbination of both.

    The Avalon is designed with a bias for comfort with good manueverability in day to day situations and good hiway speed stability.

    I drive a LincolnLS sport, and have a Porsche911 with a little bit of track time.

    The Lincoln will out handle thw Avalon any time, but my test drive indicates the Avalon will be a little bit more comfortable. It will "wallow" if you push into a turn- at least thats; my test drive experience.
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    A brief update for anyone anxiously awaiting my report. My Avvy goes in for surgery tomorrow (Tues)-TOKICO "HB" struts in all four corners. At the same time, I leave town for 10 days (duty calls!) Hopefully you can wait 'til my return for the review. Additionally, I will switch to polyurethane bushings on the control arms and sway bars...I will actually do this AFTER the struts, for science!!! (LOL) This way I will be able to discern the advantages of each upgrade. Any questions/suggestions, let me know! -nomad-
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    FYI-I got several emails on SPRINGS. I am sticking with OEM springs. There are some springs that will FIT but, were NOT engineered for this car. ie) Weight, ride hight, etc. Hope this helps.
  • gscheil1gscheil1 Member Posts: 72
    If you paid $1,000 for the warranty, you must have bought it from a fella on the street wearing a black raincoat who opened it up and sold you on the warranty. You should have paid only about $550.00 which is what my dealer charged.
  • gscheil1gscheil1 Member Posts: 72
    My 2000 XLS has about 35,000 miles on it and my Michelin tires, the ones you mentioned, hardly show any wear.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    You paid $550 for an extended warranty? A Toyota one or an aftermarket one? If it is a Toyota one, you paid less than dealer cost and there is no such thing as holdback on warranties. Cost really is cost.
  • kicker9kicker9 Member Posts: 57
    Just took delivery of my new white diamond XLS this afternoon as promised by the dealer. No surprises, received the car exactly as ordered, no dealer add ons, no extra charges for paper work, etc., couldn't be happier. Hope all goes well.
  • jc217jc217 Member Posts: 4
    My michelin tires on my 2000 Avalon ran 65,000 miles. The same tire on my 2002 only ran 38,000. My tire dealer suggested checking alignment even though the car drove straight as an arrow on flat pavement. It turned out one of the alignment settings was wrong from the factory and ruined my tires. Expensive lesson learned. Should have checked earlier when I noticed abnormal wear. Instead of bitching about the tires.
  • arthurw2arthurw2 Member Posts: 1
    I am ready to purchase a 2003 Avalon but willthe trunk hold 4 golf bags?
  • boordboord Member Posts: 27
    If you have four tour player pro bags, probably not. However, I have no problem with four normal 9 1/2 inch bags plus the normal assortment of shoes/hats/sweaters/etc. If your foursome has some carry bags in it you quite probably can get an overnight bag or two in there also. One hint: for the bags in the back of the trunk take the woods out and put them toward the front of the trunk. Fairways and greens
  • kicker9kicker9 Member Posts: 57
    LOVE my new XLS, looks great with the color matched mud guards that I installed, they fit perfectly and were simple to install in less than an hour for all 4. The only downfall so far, is the fact that I can't leave the car unattended running with the valet key and lock the doors with the remote, it's been freezing lately in upstate N.Y. and the car cools quickly. If there is a way for this to happen, will someone please let me know, thanks.
  • cusafrcusafr Member Posts: 184
    What year? Did not make Avalon in 1990! See used vehicles here in Edmunds for pricing.

    CUSAFR
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    With this extended period of severe cold weather that we are experiencing in New England at this time, does anyone have any suggestions and prescriptions for protecting the Avalon?

    At home my car is garaged but at work it is exposed to the elements so every couple of hours I start the engine and keep it running for about five minutes. Am I doing more harm than good? What about the oil what is the recommended grade? And should I be changing the coolant in my 2000 Avalon?

    So far everything is working perfectly including the CD player and cassette so I will have to say that Toyota's reputation for reliability is holding up. My daughter's 2003 Odessy and my wife's 2001 BMW don't fair as well.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    I do not own an Avalon, but it is not a good idea to start any car in extremely cold weather and let it idle for 5 minutes every two hours. Just let it cold soak, when you go home drive gently for the first couple miles. Hopefully you live far enough from work to get your car decently warmed up. If your battery and plugs are in good shape and you have no other ignition system or fuel system problems, todays fuel injected computer controlled cars will start.

    When you do what you are doing, about all you are accomplishing is generating the possibility of diluting your oil with raw gas that leaks past the pistons because the engine is started with a very rich fuel mixture, and the engine is not getting hot enough to vaporize this fuel. Gas is a very poor lubricant. In extreme cold, it would take more than 5 mintues of idling to get your car up to operating temperature.
  • finfin Member Posts: 594
    The advice from badgerfan in post 1992 is right on target. You are hurting the engine with the short run times. Avalons do just fine in severe cold weather if they are otherwise maintained. Check the service manual for oil and coolant replacement. These are great cars for the money. I drive a loaded '03 XL. My '99 was flawless for 92k miles. Enjoy...
  • flora43flora43 Member Posts: 6
    "fin" I appreciate your input. We are looking seriously at the Avalon. CR provides excellent reviews and so does "Lemon-Aid". Obviously, you underscored their findings by being very satisfied with the car's reliability. Are you happy with the fuel mileage? Do you need to use premium fuel? Are there any other problems you have experienced over the years with the car? We test drove one yesterday and were impressed by the smooth ride, excellent acceleration, smooth shifting of the transmission and quality finish. Somewhat disappointed though in the wind noise at about 130km and in addition a whining noise when accelerating the car from 0-90km. Upon returning the car we questioned the dealer and were informed by the service manager that this particular car was outfitted with Michelin winter tires, which in turn would cause the whining noise on wet (speak salted) roads.(Apparently the compound of the tires causes this whining noise only on wet roads and to about 90km. Do you have any experience with your new car exhibiting this kind of problem?
  • kicker9kicker9 Member Posts: 57
    Maybe I can help calm some of your concerns about the Avalon. Though I've only had my new XLS for a short time, it's by far the quietest vehicle I've ever test driven or owned. Before I made my purchase I tried cadillacs, mercedes, hondas, nissans, infiniti, not to mention the lincoln ls I just turned in because my lease was ending. I don't think there is a tire on the market that won't make excess noise with certain road conditions, I live in the northeastern corner of N.Y. and encounter similar road conditions. The michelins are very satisfying to me and I do hear the whinning when crossing bridges with concrete surfaces or steel decks, but, for the most part, they are quite silent. I do get a little wind noise from what appears to be at the windshield at highway speeds, but, certainly nothing offensive. I'm am very pleased with this car so far andhave complete confidence I made the right choice. Hope this helps.
  • flora43flora43 Member Posts: 6
    Thanks for the info. Do you use premium gas and do you find the engine a little thirsty?
  • edheywoodedheywood Member Posts: 4
    My son just bought a 96. It is great but there is no owners manual. Does anybody know where we might look to get one? It will be helpful. Also there is no alarm keyless button, but I'm sure it had one. Anybody know where we might look for help with that? And finally, without the owners manual can anybody tell me what the ECT button is/does? There is a fuse for heated seats but not switch. Does it have heated seats or not?
    Thanks.
  • luffnuttluffnutt Member Posts: 13
    I have done some preliminary miles per gallon measurements. With only 540 miles on a 2003 Avalon XLS I got little over 19 miles per gallon mostly city and back road driving, using 87 octane gasoline. There were at least three times I warmed up the car for a few minutes before driving off. My wife likes the heater working and the seat heaters on as well. The tires are Michelin MXV+ and I did not check the tire pressure which it is to be 31 pounds per square inch. There was a difference in tire noise depending on the road surface, macadam or concrete but I did not find it objectionable. The on miles mpg etc display seems to work as well as the one on a '89 Cadillac we had and to say not very precise. In my opinon it is more of a conversation piece then a precise measuring device. Of course it does show when and where the most econonical sweet zone is, but the method of dividing the miles by the gallons used, over several tank refills would be the real miles per gallon. While the Avalon is not as spritely as the Honda EX V6 it feels a lot softer on our old bones, and my wife and I plan for 3 to 5 day trips this summer. I feel that we made the right choice
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    badgerfan and fin:

    Thanks for allaying my fears of driving in this severe cold weather. Seeing how poorly other cars were performing I was becoming paranoid.

    flora43:

    My Avalon 2000 XLS has been flawless. After driving it for about 3 years and 27,000 miles I have had no problems. It starts the first time you turn the key and I have yet to change the battery, sparkplugs or coolant.

    It came equipped with the Michelin MXV+4 tires, which runs great if properly inflated at the recommended 31 psi. On rough surfaces and bridge joints it is noisier than the Infiniti I-30 and Volvo S70. Although the Avalon has larger than normal size side view mirrors yet wind noise is negligible. You have to be listening for it to hear it.

    There was an annoying squeaking sound emanating from the glove box compartment area that was later diagnosed as an improperly installed air conditioning filter. Since replacement the car has been whisper quiet. I use only 92+ octane gasoline (not required by the way) and get about 20.8 miles per gallon in city and rush hour driving and 32 mpg on the highway. For my morning commute the computer registers 22 mpg in city driving and 30 mpg on the highway. And by the way the outside temperature gage is extremely accurate.

    The ride in the Avalon is just right. Sometimes it feels soft and supple but when you want to drive aggressively in responds in kind. Having come from an Olds 88, it took me a while to adjust to the reality that the Avalon is not as sedate as some people might think. I took some sharp corners expecting the customary lean and wallow but to my surprise the Avalon handled that with poise without a complaint. If you want something more aggressive than that then maybe you should be looking at the new Accord EX.

    Finally, if you are comfortable with the exterior styling (to me it is just too boxy) the Avalon is the way to go. It is quiet, the JBL sound system is phenomenal and the large bucket seats are sumptuous to relax an aging and fatigued body
  • flora43flora43 Member Posts: 6
    Thank you for sharing your very satisfying experience with your '00 Avalon. I combined the mileage of 22 and 30 miles/gallon and converted it to liters and arrived at 9.3l per 100km. Now, that is very good indeed especially for a six cylinder and 210hp. That's about what I would get out of my '96 Honda EXR which has a 4 cylinder and only 135hp. We just might be back into the Toyota family, since our focus is on an automatic, adjustable driver and passenger seat, and of course reliability.
  • kicker9kicker9 Member Posts: 57
    I've been using regular unleaded 87 octane so far without any pinging problems and with all the research I've read, I believe it's better in a non high performance engine than a higher octane because it actually has a lower combustion temperature thereby burning more completely.
    I can't really tell about mileage as of yet, with the extreme cold, my car has been doing a considerable amount of idling.
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    edheywood-Try eBay for the owners manual, otherwise, a junk yard will have one. KEYLESS entry is std, if it's an "XLS"...would have been an option on an "XL" New FOB's can be programmed but, replacing the Keyless Entry ECU with matching FOB's may be easier. FYI-The ECU is in trunk-left rear quarter panel. ECT=Electronically Controlled Transmission, this simply changes the shiftpoint of the transmission. The "POWER" mode shifts at higher RPM for more aggressive acceleration. "STD" will prompt shifts sooner (@ lower RPM's). ie)"POWER" mode is also handy at cruising speeds, when passing may be necessary. Flooring the accelerator, in "PWR" mode will downshift more quickly...maybe even 2 gears, depending on you current speed, and will maintain this gear longer (to higher RPM) than "STD" mode. NO, you don't have heated seats! Hope this helps...
  • 02mdx02mdx Member Posts: 64
    '02 Avalon now has 13K miles and runs great. I use premium fuel and get 24/30 MPG. The Continental Tires which came with the XL are good in dry weather, but don't perform that well on snow packed roads (neither do most tires...); will switch to Yokohama's or Bridgestones when the time comes. Road noise is not an issue and most new passengers comment on the quite interior.
  • saw_williamssaw_williams Member Posts: 2
    To any&all -

    **My previous note erroneously listed the used Avalon as a 1990, bad typo. It's actually a 1999. Again, any help would be appreciated.**

    Came across a 1999 Avalon XLS (55K miles) for $14,000. Ran a carfax report on it - Came back clean. My question is this: Is this a good bargain? Are their any major flaws/problems with Avalon XLS's from this year?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • cusafrcusafr Member Posts: 184
    saw_williams: If you go to Smart Shopper and then Real World Trade-in Values, Terry will tell you exactly what you want to know.

    cusafr
  • figmomanfigmoman Member Posts: 55
    I bought a 98XLS a few months ago with 39K for 15K. Its in excellent condition. It now has 43K. The thing i am very disapointed in is the noisy suspension. If the road is very smooth, the car is very quiet. A certain type of small bump will make loud suspension banging that sounds like the car is going to fall apart. I have read all the posts and this seems to be a problem in a small percentage of the 98, 99 models. If you are interested in one, i would drive it on a number of different surfaces first. I came out of a 99 Camray and it did not have any of this suspension banging. Other than this, it is a great car. I seldom drive the car because of this racket. It is my sons car. I would consider new struts but i have read in other posts that where they were fixed under waranty that the noise was still there. I don't want to shell out big money and not have the problem fixed. Make sure you get a quiet one before you buy. Mike
  • lorainemax2lorainemax2 Member Posts: 35
    I have a 2000 XLS Silver Spruce. Has been a fabulous car.....NOT ONE PROBLEM in 45000 miles. The only complaint I have it that I just replaced the Michelin's. I almost stroked when I got the price from Discount Tire to replace them. I went to my dealer who sold me the same tires for almost $17 per tire cheaper and gave me a "tires for life" guarantee that all Toyota dealer are supposed to be offering now.

    Took the opportunity for cheap tires to upgrade the Energy's to V- Rating from H. Really made a difference (tires seem much softer) although I know they will not wear as well and I feel the handling is somewhat improved.

    I qualify my handling remarks though by saying the the original Michelin's were pretty worn and were getting hard as rocks so the improvement is most likely exaggerated over those.
  • finfin Member Posts: 594
    My 1999 XL never had the suspension problems noted by others (92k miles). But my driving is almost all at 40 mph or more. Not always on the interstate but with little traffic. The pre-2000 cars DID have occasional problems with the struts. Wind and road noise are generally not a concern in this car. Both can use 87 octane and get about 27 to 30 mpg highway, 19/22 in town. The factory Michelin MXV tires are wonderful on the '03. Great car. Enjoy yours...
  • bitnoj1bitnoj1 Member Posts: 17
    Considering the 2003 XLS. I see Edmunds is quoting a price of appx. $650 over invoice. I live in northwest Ind.\ Chicago area. Can someone direct me to a dealer that's offering a great price in my area?
    Also how much is dealer ad fee? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  • steveb84steveb84 Member Posts: 187
    Toyota Dealer Advertising fee in Chicago Region is $325 per car.

    650 over invoice is a very good price on an XLS, you can always find a lower price somewhere, but remember, sometimes it's worth paying a little more to get treated the way you want, now and during the entire ownership experience.
  • edheywoodedheywood Member Posts: 4
    The car we bought did not come with the remote button. There were many of them for sale at ebay but I found one at a junk yard. The one's on ebay claim it is very simple to program them to your car. Can anyone help with the How to part? Obviously the one we got from the junk yard didn't work on our car.
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    For those interested, here is my initial impression of the Tokico HB series Hi-performance struts. They are on my 96 Avvy with OEM springs and 15" wheels.

    Everything about them after 400 miles is thrilling. All aspects of driving have been enhanced and the car feels better than when it was new.

    From the second I rolled it off the lift, I could tell it would be a firmer ride. Feedback was greatly improved but never harsh. The car is without a doubt more agile and confident. My usual off-ramps are far less intimidating. I am maintaining brisk speed, where braking used to be required-seriously! Speaking of braking, the reduction in nose dive is significant.

    Bumps, from small to large, are handled better too. Traction, on the most torn up patches of road, is much better. (This based on the absence of slippage during acceleration, and the lack of ABS kicking in during braking, on the same section of road) On the larger stuff, like formal speed bumps, the car quickly returns to neutral and continues on its path. This type of bump used to alter the path of the entire cabin. Now, most of it is absorbed by the suspension.

    Body roll used to be awful, IMO. I really wanted an oversized sway bar to address this. However, the Tokicos have brought this well within control. Since oversize sway bars are not available, I will further address this with "plastics".....

    ...the polyurethane bushings go on later this week. This should tighten the suspension further. Allowing less movement of parts within parts ie) Control arm "knuckle" joints. All control arm ends and the sway bars will get 'em. This should really reduce any "play" in the suspension. Hope this helps someone. Questions and comments are welcome...nomad
  • mikem30mikem30 Member Posts: 20
    Please advise as to the cost of the struts and was this with or without a labor charge. Also, I assume the car then needed a 4-wheel alignment.
    Thanks.
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    The strut set of four was ordered from a reputable Toyota performance shop I have used in the past. I paid $370 for the set, which price matches the cost at a few on-line vendors, where it's hard to know who you are buying from. Part numbers are Front: HB3179/80 Rear: HB3181/82 (For '95-'96) and Front: HB3184/85 Rear: HB3181/82 (For '97-'01)

    Sorry, I don't know the installation cost. My buddy has a Toyota/Lexus repair shop, so we did the work. A four wheel alignment WILL also be done. I always allow the car to "settle" for a couple of weeks...probably not required in the newer technology but, this will hurt nothing...nomad
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    edheywood-I stated in response to your post..."NO, you don't have heated seats." Because, heated seats were never shown as an option on the 1996. I even looked at the Avalon brochure from '96. I did, however, come across a heated seat section in the service manual... hmmm....it shows the "switch" on the side of the seat, near power seat controls. Does anyone have a '96 with factory "heated seats"????
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    I saw a few posts on programming key FOBs. Factory 3-button FOBs (the LOCK, UNLOCK, picture of the TRUNK "FOB's") are not actually programmed. I verified this in my service manual.

    The "reciever", or CAR must be programmed to match the FOB. In fact, it can recieve signals from 2 (max) different FOB's. ie) your original and the replacement you get at a junk yard, or eBay. NOTE: To use more than two FOB's, two or more of them must be on the same VAC (vehicle acces code). ONE car can recieve a maximum of TWO VAC's....this will allow you to share one FOB with up to 2 vehicles. My Toyo's have different FOB/security systems, so I could not try/verify this.

    I have done my best to interprate the service manual and I have NOT done this myself!

    Programming is as follows:

    1) GROUND the "PROGRAM" signal on the door lock ECU/reciever....(Black wire...pin 9, if you know Toyo's system)...this should generate LOCK/UNLOCK/TRUNK RELEASE commands.
    2) Depress ANY one button on FOB 1, to store VAC #1...the LOCK/UNLOCK/TRUNK RELEASE cycle should repeat.
    3) (optional) Repeat step 2 for a second FOB/VAC
    4) Remove "GROUND"
    5) Test your FOB's
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    Anyone with rear suspension "knocking", "chattering" check your sway/stabilizer bar. This should be the problem. Replacing the bushings may be enough but, you may have to pull the bar and check IT for signs of wear, as well. It is NOT the struts! Some posts suggest struts...Then, I noticed follow up posts with new struts STILL have the noise.

    The stabilizer bar/bushing wears to the point of "play", then any small bump on either side of the car will cause a banging/knocking noise when the energy is transferred to the sway bar, which is no longer seated. NOTE: Since both sides wear out, and the stabilizer bar connects the two side of the suspension, this makes it harder to tell which side of the car the noise is coming from. TIPS to check your stabilizer bar, without pulling it...
    1) Make sure it "knocks" at any speed, even very slow, like pulling out of your driveway. IMPORTANT: Do not subject both sides of the car to a bump at the same time. I noticed this can eliminate the noise, due to an even distribution of the pressure on the sway bar.
    2) Park, and do not jack/raise the vehicle. Reaching in front of each rear tire, you can grab the sway bar. If it wiggles within the bushing, this is indicative of the problem.

    FYI: I noticed Lexus (ES300) uses the same rear end and issued a service bulletin, to change the bushings with "greasabe" sway bar bushings.

    Any questions, let me know. Special thanks to John and Jim at Media City Motors in Burbank, CA for use of their time, equipment and lift to troubleshoot this elusive problem. Hope someone finds this helpful...nomad
  • yankeryanker Member Posts: 156
    I was rather surprised when the dealer told me that the tires (michelin) on a 2000 Avalon were only good for 40000 miles. Thjey look ok but I guess I should not be surprised as tires on a Camry Goodyear and General bar4ely lasted 36000 I like Toyo tires as a replacement
  • dklaneckydklanecky Member Posts: 559
    Try CarMax in Kenosha WI.

    Just a few miles (<20)north over the Wisconsin Illinois border on I-94.

    I'm working with them on a couple of different vehicles now (can't make up my mind) and they're much lower than any of the traditional style Toyota dealers. (And no advertising charges.)
  • dave210dave210 Member Posts: 242
    That's where I got mine!

    My 2000 Lunar Mist XLS had a MSRP of $33,569, but CarMax gave me a *no haggle* price of $29,698, or $3,871 in savings!

    It was great walking in somewhere, getting almost $4,000 off sticker, and I didn't even have to fight for it.

    Plus, they give close to KBB on their used cars and that's how I got rid of my '96 Avalon.

    Thanks Car Max Kenosha and the 85 mile drive round trip was well worth it!
  • lorainemax2lorainemax2 Member Posts: 35
    I was somewhat surprised about the tires as well. My 2000 XLS has the Michelin's and at 45,000 miles they were not unsafe but were not clawing the road anymore either. They were profoundly harder and would spin just about everytime you took off it you were not careful.

    I priced these tires and was surprised how expensive they were. I went to my dealer for an oil change and was telling him about how high the tires were. He replaced them for about $20 per tire less than discount tire. I even upgraded to a V- Rating (won't wear as well but I have noticed a slight increase in handling ability).

    Still a great car. Never has been in the shop for anything in three years except oil changes.
  • figmomanfigmoman Member Posts: 55
    Nomad, thanks for the info on the rear swaybar. I will check it. It sounds like an easy fix if thats my problem or at least part of it. I think some of the racket is coming from the front too. I saw your post on the performance struts. I just want smooth and quiet. Any idea on the cost of factory or equivalent struts. Can i do the work myself. I have access to a lift at a neighbors and would like to keep costs down to a roar. Thanks for your help and all your input to this forum. Mike
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    figmoman-If you have any kind of mechanical ability, I would say you're good to go! It's not too tough...You may want to do the strut top(tower) mounts (About $65/pr, from what I remember) while you are in there. By "in there", I mean you have to remove the back seat...that's STEP 1, for the rears.

    2) Disconnect ABS sensor and sway bar links from the old strut-you'll see 'em.

    3) Remove the 5 nuts that hold it in: 3 nuts in the top mount(behind your back seat!) & 2 nuts in the axle carrier.
    ****LEAVE THE STRUT TOP ATTACHED TO THE STRUT!!!!*****It is holding the spring under tension******* My tip here is DO loosen the center bolt on the strut, in the strut top mount, before you remove the shock with the top mount attached 'cause it will have to come off.

    The hard part comes now. You have to transfer your old spring to the new strut!! I borrowed the right specialty tools, to compress the spring. You will have to do this, to get the top mount off. THEN: Place the rubber insulator and spring bumper over the piston rod, on the new strut, then the spring, and replace the strut top mount or install your new one! Tighten the nut on the piston end to 38ft-lb and start putting that side back together.

    For the fronts, follow the above steps. It was real similar. I guess open the hood, instead of remove rear seat is step 1! -nomad
  • nomad56nomad56 Member Posts: 134
    figmoman-Sorry, I forgot to answer your question...but, I don't know how much OEM struts are. However, when I was researching, I saw a set by Monroe. Probably, comparable to OEM (ie) NOT the performance set-up of Tokicos or KYB's) and I saw those on line for about $240 for ALL FOUR!!!! FYI: The Tokicos are a little more "aware" of the smaller bumps and seams in the road. NOT harsh IMO but, they are a little more "telling" of the road. Hope that helps????? My guess is OEM will be twice that price. -nomad-
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