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You're probably right, debis04Tl, to have the dealer install. It wouldn't be to save money as much as making sure it got done properly.
My only real complaint about the TL is that I don't like the color selection. It would be nice if there were some interesting light colors besides silver and white. Like the Meteor Silver (the color of my TSX), a light teal color, or light shades of blue and red. I have personally owned my last dark colored car - tired of the upkeep.
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All else being equal, I would like the TL to have them, but it's no big deal if it doesn't. I would much rather Acura gave the TL an extra cubic foot of trunk space, or better yet, an AWD option!
LOL, send that suggestion to Acura as a suggested improvement for the 2005 model. It'd certainly work better than sideview mirror blinkers.
On a more serious note, I think it'd be great if Acura put in a Heads Up Display showing speed and tach on the 6MT.
Due to the sound deadening technology and the super smooth engine, it's difficult to shift based on just the engine noise and it's annoying to have to constantly look down at the dashboard.
I'd bet the brochures then would be in very high demand
With today's power steering, you can turn the wheel from any position, and 8/4 lets you turn the wheel further before you have to move your hand.
Race cars have faster ratio steering, so they don't have to move their hands as far.
I can see the difference with the front spoiler and the rear ground effects, but not the sides...
I am ecstatic that the TL does not have this feature.
...as a deploying airbag is quite capable of breaking your arm, wrist, hand as well as many facial bones as said limb slams into your face. My understanding is that current drivers ed courses teach 8 and 4 and have replaced hand over hand turns with one hand pushing the wheel and the other stationary.
I believe that most European nations require some sort of side marker directional. Blinkers on the mirror seems to be an alternative to the traditional ones mounted on the front fender. I thought the TL has a fender mounted directional.
Seems to me 8/4 would put your arms flat against your side (leaving little room for quick small moves of the wheel) and would mean you are only holding the wheel with part of your hand.
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what is actually that ?
1. Who should be a "receiver" Sale/fleet manager?
or just to send a fax without mentioning "Attn:"
2. Should I give my offer or just ask for a
quote for a car I want ?
I've never seen this approach before and it raised two questions:
-Was this an original design feature or a reactionary quick fix to lessen road noise?
-How will this material stand-up exposed to winter driving? Covered with snow, ice, salt, etc. will it degrade quickly and simply fall off? (time will tell, I guess)
While there the dealer brought out a WDP TL with the full ground effects, 18" wheels, and small trunklid spoiler. The side ground effect pieces do "stick out" more than the stock sides which seem to just roll under. There are subtle differences. The rear ground effect pieces fit over the "ridge" in the stock bumper. You pretty much have to see both cars next to each other to see all the differences. They didn't put the prices on the sticker yet although the salesman said the whole package was around $4000.
2) Locate the link that says "Find A Dealer".
3) Put in your zip code and click "Go".
4) Go through the pages of the dealers found and copy dealers name and fax number.
5) Type out you Request for Proposal describing the exact car you want: exterior/interior, nav, etc.
6) State your purchase terms: cash, lowest dealer financing, etc.
7) State date you intend to buy (within 72 hours for best response).
8) Be sure to include your FAX number, only.
Blast 'em out. You should begin getting responses within a couple of hours.
You can call the dealer that gave the best overall offer, and negotiate for things some other dealer might have included...like pro-package, etc. Settle on the deal and have them fax you the buyers order to sign. Take your checkbook and pick up your car.
I used this process to buy a Nissan Quest 2 months ago, and bought the van at 500 under invoice, when they were sitting on dealers lots with window stickers reflecting $2,000 in additional dealer markup ("market adjustment"). No "deposit", no "4-square", no BS. Just the best buying experience I've ever had.
2. It doesn't do anything to protect the doors from dings. NOTHING! Most dings occur just below the handles level and moldings are WAY lower.
Anyone know the cause? Some have speculated that it's due to upshifting too early in order to get the 20 to 30 mpg and ultra low emissions, but it seems to affect the 6MT as well.
Anyone have any idea of what percentage of 04 TL's affected by this issue?
I did notice a slight anti-freeze smell which the salesman discounted as "burning off" the engine coatings.
Questions about the DVD nav system. Is it worth the extra money and does it play DVD movies?
The smell is normal. There are a lot of coatings, etc. that burn off as the engine gets hot the first few times.
The value of the NAV system is really up to you. Do you travel a lot and go to strange areas? If not, you may want to really consider if the $2000 is worth it or not. If you need it only part of the time, there is a new Palm-sized PDA/GPS unit from Garmin at $599 that does the same thing, voice prompts and all, that you can take with you.
NO - It does not play movies. It is solely a NAV system.
Anyone own a red one? Does the red show much dirt?
The dealer in Huntsville AL has only had 2 red ones (I think) and both have sold quickly. Have not seen one with the black interior, which is what I would want.
Also the dealer had 16 TLs on the lot Sunday, no red exterior and only one with the NAV. Guess I will be waiting a while to get one.
1. The new car soaks up bumps a lot better than the old one. All-in-all the ride feels more comfortable. I can't really be more specific.
2. Handling is WAY superior. I took couple fast curves and noticed a hude difference.
3. Power delivery is a lot smoother. Most importantly: the transmission shifts (auto) are almost imperceptible.
As far as questions about vibrations: my car doesn't have them.
I've always found the old Type-S not always easy to drive smoothly around town. It's got kind of a hair-trigger throttle tip-in, and (mine anyway) has little random sags and surges in the power delivery when negotiating around town.
Has the '04 engine been tamed in this regard?
Good luck.
They also got almost imperceptible after 30K mile service that included tranny fluid flush. But that only lasted a couple of weeks. The bucking is back.
Good Luck with your new TL, I will be joining you in a few years from now when bugs and whistles are all polished up.
For now- I am enjoying the 03.
How do you mean by "bucking"? Are you referring to the little surges, jerks and dips in the power delivery as you're driving? I get that in my CL. Nothing major, but annoying because it feels like the car needs a tune-up. But I can't pinpoint whether it's the tranny acting up or just the throttle linkage setup or even something mundane like fouled plugs.
Another example is probably related to the first one - I am decelerating in front of a red light, then light turns green and I push the gas pedal - it usually is not a very smooth event.
One more example - I back out of my driveway, put it in D5 and start driving forward. Everything OK so far, then 20 yards down the road it feels like I drove over a dog or something. I guess the tranny is doing a 1-2 shift, but it is too rough.
All of the above went away for a couple of weeks after 30K mile service. Then they all came back.
Another example (never goes away, service or not) would be the hickups that usually happen when I cruise at 40 or 50mph. It is cruising along then sud-sud-suddenly it feels like engine lost power, then everything goes back to normal. This once happened at 80mph - it was scary.