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Oldsmobile Alero



  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    What engine do you have? I easily get 33-34 highway with the 2.2L.
  • coonhoundcoonhound Posts: 174
    I have the old modified, tweaked, massaged, insulated, retrofitted, quad 4. Now called DOHC, that we have installed dual balance shafts to nearly eradicate vibration. The nearly eradicate vibration is a little tidbit from the brochure.

    That the thing was modified for 10 years or so, one would expect perfection.

    Just reading the brochure makes me want to go buy another one.

    But that mileage is mostly City, not heavy city, driving. The Intrigue gets better highway mileage than the old 4 cyl. Alero. The Intrigue is a GX sans the PCS and with 3.08 gears instead of the 3.27 with PCS. Also the V6 Alero turns in better highway mileage but less City mileage. With fuel prices rising 2 to 4 cents per day I may have to find a Geo metro or a Diesel VW.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The highway mileage on our Intrigue is amazing. Our Alero and Intrigue are almost the same there. We are up to low 70 cent / liter range right now which is about u$1.65-170 gallon up here. It's killing me, but it seem like everything is up these days.

    Your Quad 4 sounds good. Always liked the power but never the noise/vibration. I hear they will have turbo powered Ecotecs at the SEMA show coming up. Wonder if they could be added to the Alero?
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    Last fillup, 2.2 ecotec mileage was 29.5 for 50/50 city/highway. Just hit 4000 miles. Love this 4 cylinder...
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    The 2.2L seems to smooth out over time. It seems even more peppy now also but that could be because I don't use the a/c anymore.
  • rebrabrebrab Posts: 5
    Thanks cpwingnut for taking the time to respond to my post re: rotors and front brakes on 2000 Alero. You are correct, my Alero is still under warranty. As the car is leased and I will be returning it at the end of the lease - which is at the end of December this year - I don't think I'll pursue the rotors any further. However, if I owned the vehicle or if I intended to buy it out at lease end I would absolutely insist the dealer replace the rotors completely under warranty.

    Once again, thanks for the great advice.
  • rebrabrebrab Posts: 5
    Does any one know if the 2003 Aleros have the same bad rotors as the previous years?

    Any other informatio re: the 2003 Aleros that anyone would like to share would be greatly appreciated. (By the way, I think the colours available for the 2003 are pretty terrible. LOL. Loved the old "midnight blue" but see that for 2003 there isn't any shade of blue available - guess it must be "old fashioned". For sure I thought the teal colour was old-fashioned - a flash back to the late 80's or early 90's but it's back - ugh)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    03 models do not have ABS standard any more except maybe the GLS models. and the rear discs are gone also unless you get a GLS. XM radio is an option for 03 if you want it. Otherwise not much new this year. As for rotors, they have been fine on my 02 GX so far.

    I have a ruby red Alero, I think it, Polo green and gray are the best colors.
  • Ok, I've had my 2002 Alero for about 3 months now and have not even put 2k miles on it. Noticed a noise yesterday when I finish turning left and the wheels are aligned back forward, I hear a slight pop or thump. The noise is coming from the right left wheel area. Anyone have any ideas on what this could be? Guess I'll get to see how the repair shop is next week. A friend of mine says it might be the boot, or the steering assembly.

  • kelver777: Welcome to Alero ownership! This noise is one of many steering / suspension noises you will likely hear. Your dealer may keep the car all day and then tell you they are "unable to duplicate" the noise - so go on a verification test drive with a service advisor or even your salesperson. If you are not satisfied with this dealer's responsiveness to your concern, try another dealer. I found that some GM dealerships did not like investigating noises, while others actually made an honest effort to help.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    6 months and not one noise yet. My mom's Alero is over 3 years old and she has none either.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    My Alero is over 2 years old with 30,000 miles. Only problem was the rotors which were replaced under the warranty at 13k. I wish my wife's Lexus RX300 was this good.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    are ABS and 4 wheels discs no longer standard across the board?? This was one of the Alero's advantages. While most cars in this price range had rear drums and made you pay extra for ABS, the Alero had those features on all models. Dumb move in my opinion. No way to help move cars from a brand that is soon to be extinct.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    It was probably done to keep the base price down and help move cars. If someone is very price conscious it satisfies their need, If some desires ABS, you just pay for the option. (or package that includes the option)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Simple... price. Competition doesn't offer it so they had to cut ABS to stay competitive. It's still disc/disc ABS on the GLS though.

    Don't like it, but I understand why they did it. You can still get it optional.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    But did GM actually drop the base price?

    BTW, would you care to share any blues your wife had with her RX300?

  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    When your the underdog(for whatever reason) as Olds is/was then you have to offer more for less than what the competition charges. To me and to many recent buyers, this was what made an Olds an attractive buy. It also makes for a simpler buying process. You don't have to worry about finding the color you want with the features you want. Simply find the color you like and deal.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    I think the base price is lower or at least the come on sale prices are lower than last year. I am not paying close attention to the prices so if anyone has some facts, please jump in. Maybe taking out the ABS just helped them hold the line on price.
    As far as your question about the RX, don't get me wrong we truly do love the car and would get another but: The sunroof would make a loud snap from heat expansion/contraction and it took about 7 trips to the dealer to get it fixed. Toyota has received a lot of bad publicity on the V6 engine in the RX, Highlander, and the Sienna minivan with what they are calling oil gelling, which is actually sludge. They did send a letter giving me a 8 year warranty on oil gelling, which helps a little. The engine does not idle as smooth as the Alero V6. Nothing to fix here, all RXs have the same idle. The RX is geared much lower than the Alero which causes the engine to rev much higher at highway speeds and affects gas mileage more than a higher geared car. No tire pressure monitor like the Alero. No chime when low on gas. Service is extremely expensive if you have the dealer do any work other than warranty. Not to mention you can get 2 Aleros for the price of one RX. Before anyone who owns an RX jumps on my case I did say we love the car and would get another. I also did not go into the many wonderful features of the car.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Olds is dead anyway, but yes more for less is a reason I bought 2 Oldsmobiles. The cars offer tremendous value for the buck. ABS and 4-wheel discs are a big selling point to me but not likely to most people these days and when your competitors offer it as an option, to compete on price you must also.

    Alero base price dropped a little I think, but when you add back the ABS, you will pay more for the same car.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    Your Alero V6 actually idles smoother than the Lexus 3.0 liter V6? Thats pretty impressive and pretty interesting as most of the automotive press seem to think the Toyota 3 liter V6 is one of the smoothest operating engines on the road. I think Toyota has a good product line and reputation for good quality, but they are highly overrated IMO.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    The RX is probably the smoothest engine I ever owned when it comes to acceleration and cruising. Except as I mentioned above I wish it was geared a little higher like the Alero. However, I still feel like the idle is smoother on the Alero.
  • I've been away for a while. Recently bought a 2000 Jetta TDI (wow, what a car) and have spent hours reading hundreds of posts in the TDI club site. But back to the topic:

    I also bought my 2K2 Alero because of the rear disc and ABS as "standard". A similarly equiped Accord or Camry were around $5000 more (not to mention less incentives such as cash back & 0% financing). No contest in my opinion. I will suffer with the resale however, but that wont be an Issue for 5-7 years, by which time the money saved initialy will have earned me over $3000 in interest!!! Add in another $2000 in interest I would have had to pay out to finance one of those cars for 5 years and you have a final price difference of $10000 over five years. Reliability and resale values are no comparison to $10000.

    Disclaimer: These figures are rounded off and in C$. Others may save more or less. LOL :-)
  • thinmanthinman Posts: 18
    Since I visited this site. I read many of the posts after I bought the wife's '99 GL3. It now has 35,000+ and here is the take on it.

    At about 15K started getting a pulsation through the brake pedal. Took it in and they did a "run-out" on the rotors and re-surfaced them under warranty. I told the service manager that I had been told there was a TSB on the rotors but he denied all knowledge. 7K later the pulsation was back. This time when I took it in armed with downloads off the web, and before I even mentioned the TSB the service writer said, "Really? Damn, those should have already been replaced!" Short story, Olds did it under warranty. (btw...this is Chev/Olds/Caddy dealership and they have done ALL the service work on my S-10 and the wife's Olds...I'm a familiar face there *L*)

    At about 25K the battery cracked the casing. I know this was an anomaly so I don't fault the manufacturer. Replaced again under warranty.

    Other than that no more problems aside from a few squeaks and groans that developed as the miles grew.

    I love the brakes in her car! Very positive feel on the pedal. Easy to modulate, and stops on a dime! And the ABS has gotten me out of few tight jams!

    The seats are junk! She is, well, er...Plus sized and she really can't get comfortable. I've been trying for three years to find the right "Sweet-Spot" on the adjustments. Still searching.

    Handling at low to moderate speeds is exceptional! Almost go-cart like handling around town. However, out on the open road above 60MPH the front end starts to hunt around. Rather unsettling and doesn't inspire confidence on the interstates.

    Car is NOISY! Tons of road noice comes into the cabin. Again, around town it isn't bad but on 'scruffed' open road pavement it starts to get tiresome.

    LOVE THE V6/TRANS combo!! One of the best engine/transmission combos I've ever driven for two lane passing. Stab the go-pedal and it downshifts NOW!!! and I'm passed and slowing faster then you read this sentence. And it seems to get stronger as the miles pile up. LOVE IT!

    It's paid off now and we're saving up for the downpayment on a '03 Passat GLS. That car is everything this OLDS tries to be. Quiet, surefooted, elegant, and powerfull. Would I buy this car again? Doubt it seriously. Knowing then what I know now.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    If you are looking for better reliability, don't expect it from the VW. No better than GM.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    Have you looked at or test driven the new 03 Saab 9-3? I haven't driven one yet, but styling and feature wise the car looks to be a winner. I'm seriously considering one as an upgrade from my Intrigue and a stop-gap before I move on up to a Cadillac CTS.
  • I've been reading through this site about some problems with the Alero. I own a '99 Red GLS Sedan, tan leather interior, sunroof, spoiler, 16" rims with performance tires. Believe it or not, the car has about 19,500 miles. I bought the car new in July 1999.
    So far, the only real problem I've had with the car was the Service Engine Soon light coming on. It happened only once. After bringing it back to the dealer, he said it was probably air in the fuel system.
    Another strange thing I've noticed is the car doesn't do well on gas consumption. I used to get only 18 mpg on the highway, worse in the city. I found putting higher octane gas pushed my milage to 27 mpg. My driving habits haven't changed, either. However, even after three years, it doesn't do as well as (believe it or not) my Olds Delta 88 (V6, 3.8 liter).
    I'm pleased with the car overall. I drive my Delta in the winter, Alero in the summer. Both cars handle well and maintanence has been excellent (knock on wood). However, I think my Delta may soon need to be retired. I'm thinking about buying another car in the next year, but I'm going to keep the Alero. I love my Alero, but I have my sights set on something "just a little bit higher" (BMW 330xi). Steel Metallic Blue, Black Leather interior, Sport Package, Premium Package, Cold Weather Package, 5-speed, Bi-Xenon headlights, Aero package with spoiler. I'm hoping my Alero will have new company soon!
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    I also had my service engine soon light come on. At the next fill up I found the gas cap off. It took about a day after putting the cap on for the light to go out. That was 10,000 miles ago and it hasn't come on since.
    As far as your gas mileage goes, something sounds wrong. I use regular in my 2000GLS/Auto and always get at least 25mpg in a combination of city highway driving.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Noticed the last 2 cold mornings (below freezing at night) that the Ecotec engine runs kind of rough for the first 3-4 minutes. When I stand at the lights on the first corner I get vibrations. It then goes away by the time I get to the 2nd or 3rd light.

    Is this normal for DOHC I-4 engines like the Ecotec or should have the dealer look at it?

    Otherwise all is well with almost 10K on the dial.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    My alero is in a heated garage, so I can't duplicate your situation. It sounds like the computer is keeping the fuel mixture too lean. I'd have it checked.

    By the way, we have 4000 on our GX and man is that ecotec/5 speed really getting smooth. I don't get to drive it much as it is my wife's car, but when I do, I notice the change. Wish it was my car!
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Once it's up to temperature it's very smooth. It's just those first few minutes after a cold nite. Car will be garaged for the winter once I clear out a few things.

    I will have them check it next oil change.
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