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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I beleive GMC had a 6x6 military truck, but it was never offered for sale to the public as the Dodge was following the war.

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  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    WOW!!!! Were they 4WD??? What type of engines were put in them if you know off hand???

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/02/spy-photo-is-this-the-2011-chev- rolet-camaro-z28.html

    They shoul make a limited edition I-ROC Z-28 with a even 600 hp. :shades:

    What do you guys think????

    -Rocky
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    edited February 2010
    Dodge Power Wagon History

    http://wiki.gmnext.com/wiki/index.php/GMC_Trucks_Helped_Win_World_War_II
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    You can buy those Deuce and a half trucks pretty cheap now and there were several different versions. Jeep made them and so did Ford and GM.

    The newer ones, not sure about the WWII era ones, had multifuel engines that would run on just about anything from kerosene to jet fuel or diesel. They have 6X6 wheel drive but can get stuck easily do to the NDT tires.

    http://www.buschandbusch.com/m35a2.html

    http://www.boyceequipment.com/

    They are one of the biggest places to buy those trucks out west. Out east you have a couple of other places to buy them. You really got to buy them fairly local cause they are a pain to move across country. Most of them have a top speed of around 50 mph so any trip is going to be slow. They are cheap though and if you need to move something they will move it for sure or rip it apart trying to move it.
  • dieselonedieselone Member Posts: 5,729
    They shoul make a limited edition I-ROC Z-28 with a even 600 hp. :shades:

    Is the IROC series still around? I though the original I-ROC cars were affiliated with the racing series. I like the idea, but I wonder if GM actually has the rights to use the name.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    IROC stood for International Race of Champions and they are out of business.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Race_of_Champions
  • dieselonedieselone Member Posts: 5,729
    Well, then maybe they could get the name for cheap if they can't legally use it now, but then should they. Maybe just call it a Z28 SS instead.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    No just Z-28 the SS was always a separate higher hp more drag oriented model.

    The Z-28 should be the lighter weight more handling oriented version.

    It should have a track pack option too.

    The original Z-28s were the 302 powered Camaros for Trans Am races.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    And now a wagon for the Regal line is coming also.

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  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    edited February 2010
    On the way, I hope!

    Hard to tell exactly with all the camouflage and snow, but it appears as though this could be the long-awaited 2011 Chevrolet Camaro Z28. We reported that this supercharged Camaro was back on track late last year and this picture appears to confirm that story.

    You can clearly see the raised hood on this prototype, a feature necessary to clear the 6.2-liter supercharged V8 sitting in the engine bay. That engine delivers 556-horsepower in the Cadillac CTS-V, so the Camaro Z28 will have at least that much.

    Also note the ultra low-profile tires on this test mule. They suggest a serious tire/wheel upgrade which would seem appropriate for a car of the Z's capabilities. A revised front end is probably part of the package too as that big V8 needs plenty of air to make all that horsepower.

    Then again, maybe this is just some new body kit and wheel package they're testing out.

    Spy Photo - Z-28??

    Regards,
    OW
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Thanks, lemko that was a interesting read!!! :)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    I bet a cross country trip would rearrange your organs!!! ;)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Sad!!!!

    My uncle has a I-ROC Z-28 like this one

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chevrolet_Camaro_IROC-Z-4.jpg :shades:

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    edited February 2010
    I'm kinda bored with the SS name. I wasn't aware that I-ROC went out of business but it sure was cool seeing that "I-ROC" name on the side of those cars as a kid. My uncle pulled up to a stop sign when I was about 7 or 8 years old and did a huge burnout and I think that was when I became really fascinated with the automobile industry!!! :)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    edited February 2010
    imidazol97,

    That is indeed interesting. I wasn't aware of a wagon version being made. Is that going to be offered here in the U.S. ???

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    edited February 2010
    A cool home made Save SAAB commecial from a couple months back!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELhgQMkU9Y

    Griffin Up! - In support of Saab Automobile

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-jUir7ypPU

    SAAB SPYKER VICTORY : the Reborn models march!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYjGIBfumg

    "I really like the Saab 9-X AIR"

    I'm so glad GM was able to sell SAAB to Spyker and yet be a major part of it's future. I've been reading a lot about Saab here lately. I wished GM would of fully held on to the brand though because it was headed in the right direction. Oh well hopefully Spyker can turn the brand into a main stream player and I like the idea they want to turn the brand into a performance brand so that is a really cool thing. :shades:

    LOL, I know....I'm such a Saab Snaab as one put it!!! :P

    -Rocky
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    edited February 2010
    >offered here?

    The articles says here and in China, of course. It's based on the Opel Insignia. The picture is at a Michigan GM proving ground. Where does GM have test tracks?

    Milford Michigan?

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    There's no Northstar in the STS for 2011. That leads to speculation there is no Northstar and there will be no DTS for which the Northstar was the only engine offered.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    I have no idea where all of there tracks are bud. I know they do testing mostly over by Detroit, but some cars are tested by Automobile Magazine on the Gingerman Raceway in South Haven, MI ;)

    http://www.gingermanraceway.com/

    If you ever make it up this way one of these summers you will have to let me know. South Haven, is a huge tourist town on Lake Michigan and this track is a major proving grounds and race track for the wealthy elites to race there hot exotics, etc.... ;)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    If that is the case, Keith is the "Ultra V8" been given new life???

    -Rocky
  • dieselonedieselone Member Posts: 5,729
    I love Gingerman. I used to go up their to watch the SCCA runoffs and other events when I was an SCCA member several years ago.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    They shoul make a limited edition I-ROC Z-28 with a even 600 hp.

    What do you guys think????

    I think that the Z-28 package should return to its roots. The new Z-28 should be a lightweight and nimble GT that emphasizes handling and responsiveness over brute power.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Exactly what i think too.
  • jawsman004jawsman004 Member Posts: 3
    Does any body have some sense of why GM would offer the Regal and the LaCrosse with overlapping price points? And, can anything be done about it? I guess the thinking is if you want a less expensive mid size you'd buy the Malibu? But then they have the same issue with the Malibu and Impala.

    It just seems like more of the same old GM "Dunder Mifflin" thinking..
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    I been thinking the same thing and it just show some continued foolish thinking by GM; if you think that is bad, semi-loaded all the way up to fully loaded the entire Buick line has overlapping prices with certain Cadillacs!! duh, I'd rather be in a Cadillac at the same price point then a Buick ;) GM should have dumped Buick and kept Cadillac as the sole luxury line for the automaker; there is no point to Buick; GM should have kept Pontiac (but trim the product line down to to 4-5 unique sports models without them being rebadged Chevys and Saturns) and become the sport division of GM similar to Scion for Toyota; just my 2 cents!
  • armesarmes Member Posts: 32
    I have a 1917 Olds Model 45, 7 pass Touring Cabriolet. It only has 1,226 miles on it. This was the first year that Oldsmobile joined the GM Brands. Check my album page for 13 pics. Car had been in dark closed storage for 48 years before it saw the light of day in 2008.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That's quite the collection of cars you have. How about some pics of your Nova too?
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    I second steve's comments, lets see some pics man!!!! :shades:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    edited February 2010
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    2012 Aveo

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,416
    edited February 2010
    Instrument cluster by sportbike, exterior styling by Lancer...has to be worlds better than the current model.

    Exterior is photochoppy and doesn't seem to have the right proportions for something of Aveo size.
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    edited February 2010
    well that body style at least looks a heck of a lot better than the current one! I do take issue as to why there is such a good amount of cheap black plastic around the fog lights and their housing :confuse: it looks just so damn cheap to have that stuff there, should have made it all the color of the body panels or another body panel at the very least!

    one thing I'm concerned about is GM continuing to do some rebadging of their products and if you look at the 2011 Regal GS below there is several similar styling and body cues to the new Aveo! I do not like that, but there are not to to many so I guess that is a good thing! Though the overall body styles of each are decent looking!

    I tend to favor the Buick's styling a little better compared to the Chevy's!

    While we are on the subject of rebadging, can anyone please tell me what the point and why GM kept GMC while it is simply just a complete rebadge and altered front/rear ends of several Chevy products? Doesn't the Chevrolet brand offer enough middle of the road SUV, Vans, and Pick-ups to cover GM without having to have another division offering the same amount of SUVs and Pick-ups for middle of the road people?

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  • tlongtlong Member Posts: 5,194
    It's a Chevy with an orange dash!
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    While we are on the subject of rebadging, can anyone please tell me what the point and why GM kept GMC

    Professional grade. GMC trucks for owners of small business, construction companies, contractors going out to do bids. Chevy trucks for the workers - carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc.
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    I don't completely buy that, you mean to tell me that the Colorado, Silverado, Avalanche, Traverse, Tahoe, and Suburban are not professional grade? small businesses, construction companies, and contractors can't use those Chevy SUVs and Pick-ups :confuse: come on!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Professional grade. GMC trucks for owners of small business, construction companies, contractors going out to do bids. Chevy trucks for the workers - carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc.

    My ex-wife's father said he'd never buy a GMC because that's his mother's initials... Gladys Marie Christian! But then my uncle said he always hated the way Chevy would spell out "C H E V R O L E T" in mammoth letters across the tailgate. So you gotta please all groups. Marketing genius, y'know. :P

    I've usually preferred the styling of GMC trucks to their Chevy counterparts over the years, though.
  • PMOPMO Member Posts: 278
    I think GM is building the Regal back in Canada because it has had the highest Quality and productive plant in the world. The Regal has in Europe received Quality and Automotive Awards .The North American market needs the Regal . Lacrosse is old GM is moving Forward. Then knowing the plant will build a Cadillac too. Camaro,Buick and Cadillac is a bit of luck ,we in this plant have built Pontiac,Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac back to 1908.With Chev and GMC trucks in 1990 we had 18,000 hourly and 15,000 salary. The head count is 4,500 to date 700 on call for the Regal . This will help people live a bit better than most though the main people are contract.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    edited February 2010
    The new Aveo is going to be built in Lake Orion, Michigan. That's another high quality plant.

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  • PMOPMO Member Posts: 278
    Yes and it needs employment too,The sad thing is who out there driving a Toyota cares what happens to any Car worker rite now?
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Yes and it needs employment too,The sad thing is who out there driving a Toyota cares what happens to any Car worker rite now?

    Respect the customer. The customer is "always" right. If, when, maybe now, if GM has the best product, the customer will buy.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I've usually preferred the styling of GMC trucks to their Chevy counterparts over the years, though

    I recently read that GM is finding notable differences in the buying habits of consumers chosing GMC Terrain or Chevy Equinox. Terrain buyers tend to buy loaded V6 AWD, while Equinox sales are somewhat divided between AWD and FWD with most buyers opting for the 4 banger. So there appears to be market segmenting in this class at least. I don't know if there are differences between them in the popular full size vehicle buyers decisions.

    Having GMC puts high margin trucks into non Chevy outlets. Until gas is consistently in the 4 or 5 buck range, I think there will be plenty of truck buyers. So I'm not sure that any great savings will happen if GM drops GMC while dealers may be impacted negatively. I think Lutz knows the market and GM probably made the right decision keeping GMC for now.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Wow, not Korea? The Aveo was a Daewoo Kalos going all the way back. This is an unusual move. My Mom has a 2006 Aveo. It's not a bad car. I'm surprised how roomy it is, even in the back seat.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Heck, Toyota's own American workforce could be in peril. You know what they say - crap runs downhill! :(
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Neat!!!! ;)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Keith, have a link to that pic? Wanted to slap it on facebook =)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Awesome!!!! Did not know that!!!! YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- EE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJaGDXEOW4

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJaGDXEOW4

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJaGDXEOW4

    :shades:

    -Rocky
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