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Regards,
OW
But thank you for you suggestion.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The short first drive sounds very adequate to me. Some of us are looking for a 4-cylinder for the economy.
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IMO, outside of being able to get the Lacrosse cheaper with the 4cyl, the fuel economy savings wouldn't be enough for me to forgo the 3.6. Now a direct injected turbo 4 probably would be a good compromise.
Although, who knows? If fuel gets too pricey or the EPA starts throwing a hissy, maybe 4-cyl engines will start becoming popular in this class of car, and Toyota will have to follow GM's lead for once, and launch an ES250?
Toyota already had an ES250 - a thinly diguised boxy generation Camry.
Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that one. Back when the Toyota V-6 they were using was a relatively tiny 2.5 liter. I kinda liked those. I thought they were nice looking with their smooth, clean lines and frameless windows that gave the illusion of a 4-door hardtop.
That's pretty much how I feel about it.
16-55 year old buyers three times more than the previous LaCrosse.
Sounds like it's selling to a younger demographic. That's great.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I checked the Buick lot and most 2010 LaCrosses were $43k in Dec with the 3.0.
Who in their right mind would buy a LaCrosse with a sticker of $43K. That car fully loaded is not worth more than high 20's sticker.
Well we are talking MSRP on the sticker. A loaded CTS easily breaches $50k MSRP.
More than I'm willing to pay for a car, but it doesn't seem TOO hideous, IMO.
regardless, I think most sane people would not load up a LaCrosse like that and would be more economically sensibly, getting one of the lower priced trim levels/engines. The LaCrosse has been selling pretty well each month so you know most of the those sales have to be for the lower trim lines and not the super expensive CSX.
Do I forsee a new LaCrosse on the horizon? If it's any consolation, that $40K was with every conceivable option clicked. Forgo the upgraded stereo/nav package and back seat DVD entertainment setup, and that saves about $3K right there. The Xenon headlights were something like $650-700 and the HUD display was another $350.
So, ditch that stuff and you're down to about $35K or less. Ditch the sunroof and you're down another $1100-1200. And the touring package was around $700. Oh, and the engine block heater was 50 bucks!
So now you're down to around $33K, which isn't much more than a fully-loaded Honda Accord.
From a historical perspective, I think cars today are actually fairly cheap. My 2000 Park Ave Ultra stickered for around $40K when it was new. Adjusted for inflation, that would be around $50K today. Yet a fully-loaded LaCrosse is $10K cheaper, and is a much improved car in every aspect except interior room and trunk space.
That's a good move. Even though you got a good deal on that Caddy, it's best to just deal with one car payment at a time!
Hey, here's a thought...when the time comes, use your Grand Marquis as a trade-in, and keep her old LaCrosse as your new "beater". While the LaCrosse would probably fetch a higher price as a trade in, it might still be better in the long run to hang onto it, as it gets better fuel economy, and will probably be more reliable since it's lower-mileage. Plus, that gets you back to an all-GM fleet, without having to use the Grand Marquis's acronym! :P
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/news/news_detail.brand_gm.html/content/P- ages/news/us/en/2010/Apr/0408_Camaro
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Our nanny state of late maybe could do some real good by establishing a meaningful regulation for visibility out all windows by the driver. In this age of lasers, 3d computer simulation, etc, they could come up with a minimum standard. The standards would have to take into account the seat position that the driver chose as well as the range of height of drivers. If we could go to Moon 41 years ago, this visibility thing could be figured out.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
There are absolutely way better choices out there and the prices are highly competitive given the value return on investment in the metal...unless you still need that P.U.T., fugheddabout GM.
Regards,
OW
Regards,
OW
I forget now...when was it you bought that car, something like November '07? That's really impressive, if you can get it paid off in 3 years! At zero percent interest, you're actually better off just letting the loan run its course and putting the money somewhere else (provided you don't invest it in something that ends up losing money). However, it's hard to put a value on the piece-of-mind of not having a car loan!
I don't like owing anybody anything. I pay my utility bills the moment I get them. I keep no credit card balance and my wife is soon to pay off hers. I imagine you paid cash for the Park Avenue.
Same here, although I'll admit that I juggle bills sometimes. I'll pay them with my credit card, and then just pay the balance when it comes due. I get 1% cash back, so that does add up over time. And yeah, I did pay cash for the Park Ave. I don't think most lenders would finance something that old, and those that would probably would stick me with some ridiculous rate.
It's only free money if you don't have to pay it back;) LOL
Just kidding, nothing wrong with taking advantage of 0% interest.
I'm going through something similar now. My wife (and the kids) want a new travel trailer. I'm dragging my feet as our current trailer is an 07 and we paid cash. While there are good deals to be had on a new one, I still don't like the idea of spending $10-15k + our trade on a larger/nicer model whether we use savings to pay for it or the 4.3% rate I can borrow from at our credit union.
I would like a newer and larger boat, but it's looking like that will have to be put on the back burner:(
Then again, a larger trailer may mean a new diesel truck to pull the damn thing:) Hmm, now that would be a serious drain on the savings/cash flow.
Isn't that a bit premature?
"Of the $4.3 billion GM lost in the second half of 2009 -- most of which ($3.4 billion) -- was from North America, the bulk consisted of one-time expenses, including GM's contribution to the the United Auto Workers union retiree health care fund, known as VEBA."
GM Lost $4.3 Billion in Late 2009; Sees a Shot for Profitability in 2010 (AutoObserver)
I'd bet he meant $34K. As far as what it's "worth" it's worth what the public is willing to pay for it, which is much more than "high 20's". Take all the cheap shots you want, the car is proving to be a winner.
There are absolutely way better choices out there and the prices are highly competitive given the value return on investment in the metal..."
Better choices? What, an ES 350?? That'll cost you an extra $4500. Acura TL's are between $36-$43K.
There is a reason why my Lacrosse is selling........the better car has won!!
BTW, I saw my first '11 Sonata.......AT AN ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR!!!!!!!! (Alongside an Infinity G)
That's part of Hyundai's marketing strategy to get people to sit in their cars. Seems to be working in spite of the so called rental car stigma.