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If you check these posts you'll find that most of us love these cars! In addition, the Elantra scores higher (significantly last time I checked) than the Civic or Corolla in Microsoft CarPoints owners evaluations.
I can't compare the Elantra to the Contour on Edmund's database since the C. has been discontinued. However, since the Elantra (like the Focus) is quite tall I would expect most interior dimensions to be larger. If you compare an Elantra to an Alero 4-door, the Elantra is larger all around in interior room (sometimes significantly), with the exception of trunk space.
On a recent trip over the PA turnpike I left many a tailgater and lumbering truck in my Elantra dust. There is a very, very slight delay in throttle input but when you put your foot down keep an eye open for highway patrol cars!
Thanks for all the replies, all. Much appreciated.
JEFF
Seems the opposite of other parts of the country!
Purchase price: 11,488.00
Document prep fee: 45.00
Sales tax: 922.64
Licence fee: 120.00
CA Tire fee: 5.00
Rebate: (500.00)
Total: 12,080.64
Advertising and destination included in purchase price.
Good luck!
Many buyers report that Hyundai dealers routinely add an "advertising charge". With some dealers this is non-negotiable, and as long as all the dealers in your area charge it there isn't much you can do. My dealer did not add this fee. If they did, and refused to negotiate it, I would simply take it into consideration when comparing their offer with others.
A "documentation fee" is common, and if it's reasonable, like $25, it's not a big deal. Your alternative is running down to the court house and doing the paperwork yourself--probably your time spent is worth more than the fee.
NEVER pay a "dealer prep" fee. The window sticker states that the price includes dealer prep.
Eventually we got it down to the Elantra because of it's outstanding features and warranty. I own a 2000 Kia Sportage, and have never had a problem with it, but wouldn't recommend their cars, when the Elantra is so much better.
She got a 2001 GLS with Option Package #5 for the ABS brakes and paid dealer invoice of $13,745...
I will be congenial with the salesman, but he won't try to sell me the car when he finds out I know more about it than he does, and I have carsdirect price in one pocket and a recent loss-leader ad in another.
Taking the emotion out of it makes it a lot easier to buy a car...
Undoubtedly Missouri prices are far higher than California so I'm sure many of you did much better.
End result, in more than half of the cars I've attempted to purchase over the years I was unable to cut a deal AND WALKED. No car is ever worth falling in love with-- although given my experience with the Elantra since purchase, it comes close.
http://www.vision-inc.com/01_tvi_release.html
the TVI is determined this way:
"Strategic Vision calculates TVI by assessing both short-term economic issues (value for the money, affordability, price/deal offered, technological innovations and standard equipment level) and long-term issues (durability, future trade-in, warranty, mileage, economical to own and reliability). These factor scores are then added to the total perceived ownership experience measure."
Also, Hyundai's sales hit another record in September, a 44% increase over September 2000. They must be doing something right...
He said last week that,
1. Hyundai and Kia are about to be claimed,
for delay (even over 2 months) of shippment
of their vehicles, to some countries (for example,
Israel).
Most of the lines are in their full speed, and
virtually run full-time, but they cannot keep
the face up with icreasing demand and orders.
Last week, even during the Korea's thanks-giving
holidays, they had to run several lines, emploees
agreed to work as usual (Unusual for them).
Total car sales in the U.S. in this September
dived 13.7%, while Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo altogether increased by 19.2%.
Hyundai and Kia's sales in the U.S. altogether
are out-running Volkswagen-group-altogether
recently.
2. Both company set the price-range of exporting
vehicles at the currency-exchange rate of 1,150
Won to 1 Dollar, which remained over 1,250 to
1,300 this year, that grant them almost double
the profits per exported vehicles.
Their operation margin rate per sales and net profit rate per sales in 2000-2001 scored highest
-in-the-industry(over 10% which is phenominal).
3. They reserved majority of excessive profit
for up-comming 10 year and 10K-mile warranties,
(They expect it to be more than sufficient),
which means, owners of Hyundai and Kia vehicles in the U.S. surely afford to relax =^.^=.
4. Kia's Sportage will be ceased to be produced
any time soon, and totally newly designed SUV will
be introduced next year. Maybe pricier, more powerful and luxurious than Hyundai's Santa-Fe.
They're quite confident with the new SUV.
5. They're trying to produce and mount Disel -engines on some models. The problem is, they want
to use Delphi's parts, which has excellent
performance but with poor reliability.
Happy driving, Elantra owners..
Choi
Since I drive around 12,000/year, I feel the 3,000 mile change is a good idea because of the 3 month interval and the stop and start driving I do. At 1,000 miles per month, you are likely to make your oil work harder than at 2,000 per month (depending upon the type of driving).
It's interesting that you can change your oil much less frequently and still be covered by warranty -- however, I like my engines to last at least 200,000 miles and the warranty is for only (only?) 100,000 miles...
bluewinds.
I have only driven Korean versions of them execept Elantra which I drove last summer in Texas. So, it is very hard for me to tell you my opinion about these models specifically. As you know, if I post something about Korean versions, it is just useless.
For example, 1.6 engine is not available for Korean Accent(Verna). Even there are many things which are pretty different between U.S and Korean versions when I consider the standard features.
I'm sure that you are the one of specialists who know lots of things about U.S spec Korean car. Especially, according to your posting, you seems to know a lot about Kia models. Maybe I will ask your opinion about these cars because I will be on the market of new car in the States next summer.
Thanks.
bluewinds.
I live in Florida and DO NOT take outside air at all. We have too many old clunkers that have exhaust fumes that will kill ya faster than anthrax and I hate the smell and thought of it.
I always remember to hit the button after I get a whiff of some outside stench.
I wonder if there is a way around this problem.
Take care,
Tony
I've never adjusted the fresh air/recirculate in any car I have ever owned...but then again, I have never lived in Florida.
Like I said, I was told that it is only a rumor, but it would make sense for Hyundai to make the car. They probably could sell everyone they made.
Discount back on purchase..etc?
thanks everyone, that can help me
Jerry
The air bags do not go off as quickly or as planned.
I guess maybe Hyundai has rigged up the side air bags to blow even in a frontal crash.
revamped Tiburon (Tuscani). This would not be the first time.
Erik
I bought a new 300M in July/00. When I got it home, under different lighting, I noticed small scratches on the roof. Since I had to take it back for another issue, I asked them to repair the scratches if it could be done easily -- otherwise I would look after them. They ruined the finish trying to rub the scratches out and the roof had to be repainted (their choice, not mine -- I didn't authorize a repaint and found out after they had done it). To make a long story short, they repainted most of the car 3 times to get the paint to match. I demanded another new car. They refused, stating I had signed for and accepted the car. I even got Chrysler Corporate involved, but they sided with the dealer. I was concerned about paint warranty and they said it was covered because it was a "dealer authorized " repair.
They had the car for a month with all the repaintings and paid me $400 for the first month's payment and gave me a loaner (not a 300M) for the month. But I always felt because of the aftermarket paint that I had something less than a new car....
Bottom line -- once you have signed the papers, it's yours!
Good luck.