Hey Kevin, IF the cap was loose and you DID tighten it the light will go out once it realizes all is cool now. IF you want to force it off, I understand you can disconnect a battery lead and wait a few minutes and reconnect it and it should be cleared.
A 'check engine light' can be lit for many reasons, it just seems to usually be by a loose gas cap.
I hope it is nothing more than that in your case. Both of my cars, 01 Elantra and 00 Sonata have the gas cap tether removed. Actually I didnt even know they were supposed to come with one. The dealer said they remove them to avoid check engine light troubles. I bought the two cars from different dealers and both had same answer. I would rather have had the tether on though.
I live in Florida so I really dont have too many COLD days like you might. An auto trans works by moving fluids around inside itself. Every car I have ever had including manual transmissions did shift in a sluggish manner when cold.
If it is real bad , perhaps you can get a synthetic transmission fluid or have it checked out by the dealer. Better yet, go test drive one first thing in the morning. Pick a car that could not have possibly been drivin in days and compare the two.
I was the guy that said Sears fixed it. They fixed the Misaligment problemon Sonata And 2001 Tib. Dealership did attempt to do it, but did a lousy job. Next time, I will pick up the car at 10 am whne I buy one, find the nearest Sears center, and charge a $50 alignment on my sears card. This way, I won;t have any probloems for about 12,000-15,000 miles with alignment. Hyundai is the Only car maker that I had this problem with, Why?
colcay scroll down from your "cold automatic transmission quality" post on the T-H-C forum and you wil find a thread called "Supposed transmission fix" This thread talks about a programing update for the transmission to improve shift quality. I have had it done to my 01 elantra and it cleaned up about 95% of the shift flare.
The Hyundai Factory certainly has no idea how to do wheel alignments or balancing. I suspect they just assemble the vehicles without checking these.
If this is the case the dealers should just do this as part of pre-delivery - they certainly try to charge enough for this. Then again dealers can't seem to even get tyre pressures anywhere near correct.
hi folks...i saw on dateline nbc two nights ago...the elantra scored poor on crash tests at the national highway safety institute...that plus recent news about the front airbags deploying late (on three different tests) is making me nervous about buying such a car...despite the good comments from reviewers and owners...what do you think? i think its safer than the accent..which i am also considering buying for the same price as the elantra.
I didn't see the Dateline report, but if they said that the Elantra scored poorly on crash tests from the NHTSA, they are incorrect. The Elantra scored very well on the NHSTA crash tests--as well as any other 4-door compact sedan. What they were probably referring to was the "Poor" rating from the IIHS, not a government agency but an insurance industry organization that does its own crash tests, on the frontal offset crash test. You can check out the IIHS test results for yourself at the their site, http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ratings.htm. You'll see that the Elantra did poorly overall because in two of three tests, the driver's front airbag deployed late, causing the dummy to hit the wheel. Also the driver's seat moved forward in its track, injuring the dummy's leg. On the plus side, the structural integrity of the car got high marks. Hyundai has stated that they can find no general cause for the IIHS' test results, and they believe them to be anomalous (hmm, two out of three??).
If you want to get a good overview of these crash tests, I recommend the April 2002 Auto Issue of Consumer Reports. They have the best discussion I've seen of the different tests and how they are conducted.
Meanwhile, if your primary concern is safety as measured by crash tests, you should look at the Civic, which scored well in both the IIHS and NHTSA crash tests. Late-model Toyotas have typically done well also, but the '03 Corolla hasn't been tested yet.
"Nissan North America Inc. is asking owners of 127,000 Altimas from the 2002 model year to return their vehicles to dealers for replacement of a crash sensor for front airbag deployment.
The action is not a safety recall under federal law. Instead, the company said on May 1, the sensor's performance did not meet Nissan's expectations in offset crash testing."
It goes on to explain that Nissan was dissatisfied with the Altima's crash performance on IIHS off-set test. Even though it passed.
To me this says that airbag sensor problems can be remedied after a vehicle has left the factory. If the Elantra does have this problem (IIHS says it does, Hyundai says it doesn't) then it is fixable.
I tried to post the link but the board would not let me (too many characters). Go to autoweek.com and in car news the right side column.
Just for record purpose. They replaced the "canister valve" under warranty. I don't have much knowledge on it though. Even though it's not a serious problem. I'm a little worry about the quality of parts Hyundai uses on Elantra.
I have that p[roblem with 1999 sonata at 77,000 miles.It is not under warranty. The shop is taking me for $300 on fixing it. I coul dhave had it done at an independentshop, but I figured it may be an engine problem and "Free" work. I already paid almost 70 dollars for the "check out" of the car.(got taken by $30 on that, vs indy shop). Guess I shoul dget it done , the car does hesitate some now.
Oh, about Elantra: Hey, it Beats the 2003 Corolla, IMHO. I tested two at 2 different shops and I was Not impressed. Take off, the car is as loud as the ECHO(but cost thousands more), the steeriung column is titl, yet it doesn't tilt dwon far enough for me, still aimed at my face.
Look, for $15,399(minus aftermarket leather) Elantra GLS Loaded,VS COrolla loaded with smae features, the difference is about $3,200 dollars(and if you finance that extra 3200, ad another 1000+ dollars). $4,200 and add $180 taxes=$4,380. Corolla lists about $1,600 over invoice, and "ednumnds TMV" says Toyota usually ONLY takes off $300 MSRP. Hyundai, only sells about OVER $300 mSRP, they knock(to the wise) $1000 off msrp. see the difference?
Corolla is reliable, but as far as "being the most quiet, or the best Overall car" No. Not these days.
Double-check your warranty book (for some reason I can't find mine right now). There is an Emissions Warranty that, I recall, is longer than the manufacturer's warranty--80,000 miles sticks in my mind, but I'm not sure. It's possible the canister valve would be covered under this warranty because it would be part of the emissions system.
I have a new 2002 Elantra with 2700 miles on it. Since it was new it has downshifted from fourth to third everytime I come to a small incline. I know this is hurting my gas mileage and wonder if anyone has had that problem and what was the correction. Also two other questions, the rear brakes make noise everytime I brake, could they be too loose? Someone please advise what is the black screen effect behind the rearview mirror. Thanks for your advice. I have the situation where the shifting is not good from second to third, but understand from other posts the dealer can fix with software. Thanks for your response.
black screen behind rearview mirror is to block sun out from between the 2 visors when down. some cars have a third little flap for that purpose... elantras dont... unless you leave the sunglass holder down. It is not an antenna.
4-3 downshift... you are driving a 4 cylinder that makes its power up high... not as high as a honda though.... so if you are climbing any sort of incline your engine speed will drop and keep dropping for the duration of the incline (and your car slows as you go up)...Naturally you keep your foot steady on th gas or even give it some more, but even if you dontthe tranny will downshift to try and keep the engine in its sweet spot (revs up high) so you can actually accelerate/maintain speed up the incline... now if you were driving a six or supercharged six or larger engine you would not have such problem as the engine could power you over any hill without touching the gas... (in a figurative sorta way)....
I had a 1987 Celica GT with 25 less horsepower and traveling to Canada it never downshifted in the mountains. Why does the Hyundai? What about the noisy brake? Thanks.
My Elantra has exhibited a high idle problem whenever I put on the brakes since about 9000 miles (as I slow down to a stop the idle will settle down toward 1000 rpm and then jump up to 1500 rpm and then settle back down). If I'm not hard on the brakes every time I'm afraid I'm going to plow into the back of someone one of these times.
I have had it in to the dealer 3 times for this. First time they said they cleaned out the throttle body and that fixed it (it didn't). The second time they said the service manager said this was normal for it to do this. This last time I told them that there was a TSB for this and that I wanted it fixed!! When I went in to pick the car up, they said they couldn't pull any "codes" from the car and couldn't reproduce it during driving and therefore weren't going to do anything about it. I tried to show them what it was doing but of course it wouldn't do it in the traffic around the dealership (I normally drive long distances between stops).
Now, anyone have any ideas what to do? I could go to another dealership but the closest one is 60 miles away. I thought about bringing a video camera when I'm driving to work and show the idle spiking up but I'm not sure if they'll by that or not. My car is also showing the transmission "flare" from 2nd to 3rd and they won't fix that either.
Don't these dealers get paid to do this warranty work? I certainly wouldn't waste my time bringing my car in if it wasn't doing this...
There is a TSB for both the high idle and shift flair. I have a 2001 GLS with a 5-speed and had the high idle problem. It was originally thought that this problem was only on the 5-speed but my dealer told me that it also occurs on the automatic. If your dealer is giving you a problem, you should call Hyundai and complain. Both these problems will be fixed with a 30 minute reprogram of the ECM.
Has anyone replaced tires on an 01 Elantra yet- if so did you stick with Michelin or go with another brand? What brands are comparable to Michelin? What do I get with a Michelin tire that I don't get with any other tire out on the market?
Tire Rack has quite a few tires (look at Yokahama and Dunlop for starters) that test a lot better with customers. I always wondered what manufacturers paid for OEM tires. My suspicion is that it's not a lot. If you tear up one of the Michelins you get to buy a replacement at $140. That should make it well worth it for Michelin to sell those tires to manufacturers at a very good price. There are also much better deals in the aftermarket in the Michelin/BFGoodrich/Uniroyal stable. For example Tire Racks customer survey has MXV4+ at 5.9 and Michelin X1's-- a far cheaper tire at 8.1.
A couple of months ago I posted the question as to whether anyone with Kumho/Hankook tires liked them. The cheap Won should work to make tires that are great for the $$$, as well as cars that are great for the $$$.
Mine has Kuhmo tyres on it in 195/60 x 15 on Alloys.
Tyres seem to hold the road well enough and work ok in wet weather, had no major problems with the tyres themselves, they seem quite well made, I only have 8000KM on the car so far so can't comment on how long they will last, they look to be doing ok so far.
Ideally I'd like to drive an Elantra with other tyres, say Bridgestone as my last two cars had these on them so I'm familar with them, as a back to back comparison.
I am looking into purchasing a 2002 Elantra. After months of research and falling in and out of love with certain cars (Civic, Corolla, Protege) I have decided that the elantra is for me. I was just wondering if anyone knew when the 2003 Elantras are coming out. I figure that the dealers would want to push the 2002's off the lot to make room for the 2003's. Therefore, there may be better sales incentives, deals, savings, whatever.
Also, does anyone know if the 2002 is getting any changes for 2003. I searched and searched, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks
I don't know when they are coming out but I think they generally come out late (September + ?).
Depending on where you live, you may find the prices won't vary much when the new ones come out. In Southern California, I could have purchased a GLS automatic for $10,988 any time during the past year. They are, unfortunately, higher priced as you move eastward.
If you are not in California, you may be able to get a better deal when the 2003's come out. Be sure to run the car through carsdirect.com to see what you can buy it for in your area from them! Their price on a base automatic is $11,585 in my area.
Automotive News ran an interview with Finnbar O'Neill, Hyundai USA CEO (look at www.autonews.com). I believe he said that the '03 would be receiving a facelift.
In the interview, the CEO says they will be updating the Elantra 'next year,' and I think he actually means next year, that is, he is talking about the '04 models. I think this because he talks about updates to the Accent and XG 'this year,' and that hasn't happened yet, so they must be getting updates for the '03 model year. Here is a link to the article:
Thanks for getting back to me guys. I didn't even know about carsdirect.com. The prices that they are listing for 2002 Elantras are about $1500 cheaper than the ones I saw on the dealers lot. They were about $14,800 and that was without the moonroof package! I can't believe that in California they sell for around $11,500. I live in Philadelphia, and am totally bummed. But I still love the Elantra.
Lelva Check out some zip codes on the New Jersey coast with carsdirect. Hyundais also have and entry port there. I have previously read that the Hyundais can be had for prices similar to Calif in the NJ port area. I don't remeber what the exact zip code was but maybe somebody on line here does. It may be worth your while to fly or take a bus there to pick one up.
But 2 sentences later in that same article, he said "in '04, we haven't announced anything yet", so the Elantra might be changed next year. Also, it's been on the market 2 years and it's about time I guess.
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The $11,585 price I gave you from carsdirect.com is for a GLS automatic (with no other options) for the Los Angeles area. I can buy the same car locally for $10,988 on any given weekend. I don't know what packages you are looking at, but $14,800 sounds like MRSP or close to it!
The dealer I bought from locally @$10,988 last July says he has sold to out of state purchasers (Florida was one). I don't know why the prices are so much lower here.
As for carsdirect, I have never bought from them, but I have used their quote in making sure I got at least as good a deal from the dealer. A friend of mine, however bought 2 BMW's for himself and his brother about 3 years ago through them. He saved a lot of money and was able to order exactly what he wanted (color, options, etc.), and had to wait only 7-10 days for the cars.
If nothing else, if you stick the quote in your back pocket, you can always use it to negotiate!
Hyundai dealers in Atlanta advertise Elantras at $1000 below invoice. The prices for Elantras with automatic transmissions start just under $11k. I don't know how much more they can drop. Hyundai does seem to love to change styles every couple of years. The Sonata, for instance, was different in 1997, changed in 1999, and of course is new again this year. So, a "new" Elantra may be on the way soon. Maybe they are selling at "$1000 below invoice" to clear them out for "new" ones coming out this fall? We'll find out soon enough!
Referring to the tire discussions from a few days past. Replaced the Michelins on our 01 Elantra at 30,000 with 80,000 mile rated Yokohama Avids from TireRack. Followed manufacturer's instructions of matching yellow dot on sidewall with valve stem, 3 of 4 required only one 1/2" balance weight each and fourth a 1" weight. Installer was impressed with low balance requirements, no vibrations now and low cost.
to me, Dunlop's are not good. Got 60,000 miles one, and it is almost "bald" at 35,000 miles. The Michelins are at 78,000 for 80,000 miles. Have about 8000-10,000 miles left before needing to change.
My car is Sonata. Uniroyals are good replacements, but hard to find a dealership and they cost almost as much as Michelins.
I just bought my 5spd GLS with convenience and option package 2 for 12,750. Here in Texas that is about $200 over invoice, and I took the financing instead of the $750 rebate. If I took the rebate, I could finance it at 4.9% through my local credit union. If I took the 1.9% (48mo)the payment was within a couple of bucks. So, I took the 1.9% and will payoff with more of the payment going to the principle.
And I really like this car! My 11 year old son refers to it as "Hundy, the go-cart with shocks"
The incentives on Elantra ended here on 4/30, and the cars are getting hard to find. My dealer indicated that they may not see any new Elantra shipments for 45 days or so.
the genuis' at Hyundai accidentally replaced the canister valve(got 78,000 on car) for "Free". They led me to believe they were doing this because they messed up..were supposed to get Gas Tank valve, instead. So, i t appears that they did it under warranty, thus it was "Free".
Still waiting for the gas tank valve. I am wondering if it is also under warranty and trying to wait long enough for me to get 80,000 and charge me?
Don't expect any styling changes on the 03 Elantra. The most they might do is shuffle around the option packages. Hyundai completely redoes their cars after 5 model years. After 3 model years have passed, they traditionally tweak the styling to give it a new look and keep them fresh. Examples: The Sonata was new in 94, reskinned in 97, new again in 99, reskinned in 02. The Accent was new in 95, reskinned in 98, new again in 00, scheduled for a reskin for 03. The Elantra was new in 96, reskinned in 99, new again in 01, scheduled for a reskin in 04. I personally thinks this works great. It keeps Hyundai cars on top of current design themes and helps make them always look new and fresh.
The mark of a good car is one that you enjoy driving more and more. The Elantra gets better and better as it continues to loosen up. The E replaced an 87 Chevy Nova purchased from my mother-in-law which crapped out soon after I bought it. During the time she owned the car I liked to take it out and warm it up occasionally. I enjoyed that car immensely at fourteen years and 150,000. My second car is a Cavalier which has been dependable but no joy to drive. It's especially annoying after driving the Elantra.
I have a feeling that the Elantra is going to be like that old Nova, a car that I can drive into the ground and still like after ten years and 200,000. Good cars age well--mediocre cars are an annoyance.
Does anybody have an idea about the advantage of using 15" wheels instead of 14" wheels in a car like ours Elantras.
by the way my 01 is getting 12.5k miles old here in Costa Rica with an "almost perfect performance", so there's no reason for paying extra thousands $ for Hondas,Toyotas or Nissans any more
At the end of the March/02 update (the last month) on their 2001 Elantra long term test, the Edmunds reviewer said to tune in next month to see how they chose to bid farewell to the Elantra. So far, they haven't told us. Maybe they just can't bear to let it go???!!!
I have owned a 2000 Elantra and the car has really been a great car with no problems experienced yet. I love how much power the 4-cylinder banger puts out (a lot more horsepower than my previous 94 mitsubishi elipse GS!). Is the newer generation 2002 elantra come equiped with the same powertrain? Does it have more horsepower? I think my car has a 2.2 liter 4-cylinder powerplant (2000 elantra GLS). I'm really leaning toward trading my 2000 in and getting a newer 2002 model.
I just hit 10K on my 2002 Elantra GLS 5spd on the way back to WA from my parent's home in MN. I love the car even more. Driving across Montana with the cruise set at 85mph, the car was amazingly quiet for a compact. What's even more impressive was that I had the sunroof completely open for about 500 of those Montana miles.
I am so glad I didn't go with the Pro 5 now. After 750 miles at 85 in one of those, I'd probably be deaf.
I did encounter my first problem, however (my own fault). When I was detailing my car in MN, I left the wipers in the up (off the windshield) position and then tried to open the hood all the way (I was washing the engine compartment). This resulted in a loud "BANG!" and the driver's side wiper arm busting in two.
Yes, I am a total idiot. But let this be a word of warning to the other idiots out there reading this column: make sure your wipers are down before you open the hoods on your Elantras.
The 2.0 liter engine in the 2001 and 2002 Elantra is the same BASIC engine as your 2000, with important upgrades. The engine block is now ribbed for improved stiffness. The crankshaft now has eight counterweights instead of four, for improved smoothness. The engine is subframe mounted (hydraulic engine mounts) to reduce vibration intrusion into the passenger compartment. Combustion chambers are revised for better response, and the exhaust has a valve that reduces noise until it opens at about 4000 rpm (when it does you feel a bit of a power surge). Last thing: BUY IT!
Someone in the Protege forum had their wiper broken and their windshield cracked from opening the hood with the wipers up. Count yourself lucky you only broke the wiper.
And the Protege is not a loud car really. I don't know if it's quieter than the Elantra, because I have never driven the new Elantras.
.....the wonderfully comfortable drivers seat. Almost Volvo-like in its superb comfort. Better than the Santa Fe's driver seat. With the rebate increased to $1000 it would appear sales are a bit flat, that would mean continued bad resale in the years ahead. Elantra is a terrific buy for the $$$!
hi, I took a delivery of new Elantra a week ago and drove home which was 15 miles away. And there was a burning smell coming from under the hood (sort of some plastic burning smell). I took it to the dealer yesterday and what they are saying is "the coating on the engine is burning" and on demand for explanation their explanation is "There is anti corrosion coating under the engine, and another coating on the top of that, and that top layer is burning, and he said he removed the coating now and shouldn't smell after a week's run" And also said its not a problem with the car. Did anybody out there heard of a similar problem ?
Alot of Korean cars have this problem when new. It's the undercoating burning off, the dealer is right. It smells God awful though, but will last for about 500 or so miles from what I have heard.
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IF the cap was loose and you DID tighten it the light will go out once it realizes all is cool now. IF you want to force it off, I understand you can disconnect a battery lead and wait a few minutes and reconnect it and it should be cleared.
A 'check engine light' can be lit for many reasons, it just seems to usually be by a loose gas cap.
I hope it is nothing more than that in your case. Both of my cars, 01 Elantra and 00 Sonata have the gas cap tether removed. Actually I didnt even know they were supposed to come with one. The dealer said they remove them to avoid check engine light troubles. I bought the two cars from different dealers and both had same answer. I would rather have had the tether on though.
Good luck,
Tony
If it is real bad , perhaps you can get a synthetic transmission fluid or have it checked out by the dealer. Better yet, go test drive one first thing in the morning. Pick a car that could not have possibly been drivin in days and compare the two.
Tony
Dealership did attempt to do it, but did a lousy job. Next time, I will pick up the car at 10 am whne I buy one, find the nearest Sears center, and charge a $50 alignment on my sears card.
This way, I won;t have any probloems for about 12,000-15,000 miles with alignment.
Hyundai is the Only car maker that I had this problem with, Why?
I have had it done to my 01 elantra and it cleaned up about 95% of the shift flare.
Here is a link to T-H-C
www.t-h-c.org
If this is the case the dealers should just do this as part of pre-delivery - they certainly try to charge enough for this. Then again dealers can't seem to even get tyre pressures anywhere near correct.
If you want to get a good overview of these crash tests, I recommend the April 2002 Auto Issue of Consumer Reports. They have the best discussion I've seen of the different tests and how they are conducted.
Meanwhile, if your primary concern is safety as measured by crash tests, you should look at the Civic, which scored well in both the IIHS and NHTSA crash tests. Late-model Toyotas have typically done well also, but the '03 Corolla hasn't been tested yet.
"Nissan North America Inc. is asking owners of 127,000 Altimas from the 2002 model year to return their vehicles to dealers for replacement of a crash sensor for front airbag deployment.
The action is not a safety recall under federal law. Instead, the company said on May 1, the sensor's performance did not meet Nissan's expectations in offset crash testing."
It goes on to explain that Nissan was dissatisfied with the Altima's crash performance on IIHS off-set test. Even though it passed.
To me this says that airbag sensor problems can be remedied after a vehicle has left the factory. If the Elantra does have this problem (IIHS says it does, Hyundai says it doesn't) then it is fixable.
I tried to post the link but the board would not let me (too many characters). Go to autoweek.com and in car news the right side column.
Kudos to Nissan for fixing their problem quickly.
Tony, thank you for sharing your information.
The shop is taking me for $300 on fixing it.
I coul dhave had it done at an independentshop, but I figured it may be an engine problem and "Free" work.
I already paid almost 70 dollars for the "check out" of the car.(got taken by $30 on that, vs indy shop). Guess I shoul dget it done , the car does hesitate some now.
Oh, about Elantra: Hey, it Beats the 2003 Corolla, IMHO. I tested two at 2 different shops and I was Not impressed.
Take off, the car is as loud as the ECHO(but cost thousands more), the steeriung column is titl, yet it doesn't tilt dwon far enough for me, still aimed at my face.
Look, for $15,399(minus aftermarket leather) Elantra GLS Loaded,VS COrolla loaded with smae features, the difference is about $3,200 dollars(and if you finance that extra 3200, ad another 1000+ dollars). $4,200 and add $180 taxes=$4,380.
Corolla lists about $1,600 over invoice, and "ednumnds TMV" says Toyota usually ONLY takes off $300 MSRP. Hyundai, only sells about OVER $300 mSRP, they knock(to the wise) $1000 off msrp. see the difference?
Corolla is reliable, but as far as "being the most quiet, or the best Overall car" No. Not these days.
Thanks for your response.
4-3 downshift... you are driving a 4 cylinder that makes its power up high... not as high as a honda though.... so if you are climbing any sort of incline your engine speed will drop and keep dropping for the duration of the incline (and your car slows as you go up)...Naturally you keep your foot steady on th gas or even give it some more, but even if you dontthe tranny will downshift to try and keep the engine in its sweet spot (revs up high) so you can actually accelerate/maintain speed up the incline... now if you were driving a six or supercharged six or larger engine you would not have such problem as the engine could power you over any hill without touching the gas... (in a figurative sorta way)....
My Elantra has exhibited a high idle problem whenever I put on the brakes since about 9000 miles (as I slow down to a stop the idle will settle down toward 1000 rpm and then jump up to 1500 rpm and then settle back down). If I'm not hard on the brakes every time I'm afraid I'm going to plow into the back of someone one of these times.
I have had it in to the dealer 3 times for this. First time they said they cleaned out the throttle body and that fixed it (it didn't). The second time they said the service manager said this was normal for it to do this. This last time I told them that there was a TSB for this and that I wanted it fixed!! When I went in to pick the car up, they said they couldn't pull any "codes" from the car and couldn't reproduce it during driving and therefore weren't going to do anything about it. I tried to show them what it was doing but of course it wouldn't do it in the traffic around the dealership (I normally drive long distances between stops).
Now, anyone have any ideas what to do? I could go to another dealership but the closest one is 60 miles away. I thought about bringing a video camera when I'm driving to work and show the idle spiking up but I'm not sure if they'll by that or not. My car is also showing the transmission "flare" from 2nd to 3rd and they won't fix that either.
Don't these dealers get paid to do this warranty work? I certainly wouldn't waste my time bringing my car in if it wasn't doing this...
Thanks!!
Frank
A couple of months ago I posted the question as to whether anyone with Kumho/Hankook tires liked them. The cheap Won should work to make tires that are great for the $$$, as well as cars that are great for the $$$.
Mine has Kuhmo tyres on it in 195/60 x 15 on Alloys.
Tyres seem to hold the road well enough and work ok in wet weather, had no major problems with the tyres themselves, they seem quite well made, I only have 8000KM on the car so far so can't comment on how long they will last, they look to be doing ok so far.
Ideally I'd like to drive an Elantra with other tyres, say Bridgestone as my last two cars had these on them so I'm familar with them, as a back to back comparison.
Also, does anyone know if the 2002 is getting any changes for 2003. I searched and searched, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks
Depending on where you live, you may find the prices won't vary much when the new ones come out. In Southern California, I could have purchased a GLS automatic for $10,988 any time during the past year. They are, unfortunately, higher priced as you move eastward.
If you are not in California, you may be able to get a better deal when the 2003's come out. Be sure to run the car through carsdirect.com to see what you can buy it for in your area from them! Their price on a base automatic is $11,585 in my area.
Hope this helps!
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=39213&a=a&bt=hyundai+CEO&arc=n
You may have to cut and paste it, sometimes Edmunds splits things up.
DW
Check out some zip codes on the New Jersey coast with carsdirect.
Hyundais also have and entry port there.
I have previously read that the Hyundais can be had for prices similar to Calif in the NJ port area. I don't remeber what the exact zip code was but maybe somebody on line here does.
It may be worth your while to fly or take a bus there to pick one up.
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The dealer I bought from locally @$10,988 last July says he has sold to out of state purchasers (Florida was one). I don't know why the prices are so much lower here.
As for carsdirect, I have never bought from them, but I have used their quote in making sure I got at least as good a deal from the dealer. A friend of mine, however bought 2 BMW's for himself and his brother about 3 years ago through them. He saved a lot of money and was able to order exactly what he wanted (color, options, etc.), and had to wait only 7-10 days for the cars.
If nothing else, if you stick the quote in your back pocket, you can always use it to negotiate!
My car is Sonata. Uniroyals are good replacements, but hard to find a dealership and they cost almost as much as Michelins.
And I really like this car! My 11 year old son refers to it as "Hundy, the go-cart with shocks"
The incentives on Elantra ended here on 4/30, and the cars are getting hard to find. My dealer indicated that they may not see any new Elantra shipments for 45 days or so.
Still waiting for the gas tank valve. I am wondering if it is also under warranty and trying to wait long enough for me to get 80,000 and charge me?
I have a feeling that the Elantra is going to be like that old Nova, a car that I can drive into the ground and still like after ten years and 200,000. Good cars age well--mediocre cars are an annoyance.
by the way my 01 is getting 12.5k miles old here in Costa Rica with an "almost perfect performance", so there's no reason for paying extra thousands $ for Hondas,Toyotas or Nissans any more
Note: The Eclipse GS you are talking about has a 140hp 2.0 engine as well.
I am so glad I didn't go with the Pro 5 now. After 750 miles at 85 in one of those, I'd probably be deaf.
I did encounter my first problem, however (my own fault). When I was detailing my car in MN, I left the wipers in the up (off the windshield) position and then tried to open the hood all the way (I was washing the engine compartment). This resulted in a loud "BANG!" and the driver's side wiper arm busting in two.
Yes, I am a total idiot. But let this be a word of warning to the other idiots out there reading this column: make sure your wipers are down before you open the hoods on your Elantras.
Someone in the Protege forum had their wiper broken and their windshield cracked from opening the hood with the wipers up. Count yourself lucky you only broke the wiper.
And the Protege is not a loud car really. I don't know if it's quieter than the Elantra, because I have never driven the new Elantras.
I took a delivery of new Elantra a week ago and drove home which was 15 miles away. And there was a burning smell coming from under the hood (sort of some plastic burning smell). I took it to the dealer yesterday and what they are saying is "the coating on the engine is burning" and on demand for explanation their explanation is "There is anti corrosion coating under the engine, and another coating on the top of that, and that top layer is burning, and he said he removed the coating now and shouldn't smell after a week's run" And also said its not a problem with the car.
Did anybody out there heard of a similar problem ?